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Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • knowisdomknowisdom Posts: 5
    I finally received my 05 stang on July 1st and it was well worth the wait, my gopd this car is the most gorgeous thing I have ever seen in my life. I got the V6 and man is it plenty of power!! I am 24, and for someone under 25, the v6 makes a lot of sense it has plenty power and the insurance costs less. I got the My Color feature though they said it would not be availible because of some legal issues. I have the red leather interior and my lumbar support, this is the most perfect car!! freat design, great performance and oh so beautiful!! Though there are a lot of 05's on the road, mine really stands out for its red interior, alloy wheels and spinners----Oh man I am in love!! :P ;)
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    Congrats on your new ride!!! Enjoy. ;)
  • purplegtpurplegt Posts: 22
    Hate to tell you this, but no, I didn't wait to order for better pricing in Feb or March, nor was I one who in September saying only a fool would buy one then. I ordered mine in November of 2004...yes, 2004. And it's now July 7th and I still have no Mustang GT. That is my gripe. I got about $1800 under MSRP on the pricing as I was the first person at that particular dealership to order a GT from them, and it was getting into winter here in Wisconsin, so the dealership was looking for a sale. Sure, they had got a couple of GT's on their lot, but they were not the color I was looking for and they didn't have the options I wanted in the car. Believe me, I know what kind of car I'm getting and I know the pricing is right. I currently own a 1996 Mustang GT and love it. So as I'm reading all these posts of those who did wait and order their vehicle in March 2005 and they have already taken delivery, and I've yet to see mine, yes, that is a reason to be ticked at Ford and my dealership. I'm getting a run around from both Ford customer service when calling and from my dealership. Pretty much stuck waiting and Ford isn't being decent enough to their customers who have been waiting for months and have had to re-order to a 2006 model to put them first in line for the new ones - we're back waiting in line all over again, and wondering if we'll ever get one. After already waiting for 8 months. I know all about the shortage of V8 engines and the my color option shortage, etc, etc, etc. Yes, they didn't expect the demand they had, but they should have a better way of providing the vehicle to customers who were first in line to order and still have NO car.....I'll be jumping for joy if I ever get to see that Torch Red Premium GT I ordered.......
  • purplegtpurplegt Posts: 22
    Thanks Graphic....I must say, you have been the most helpful person to me thru out this whole process I've been through the last 8 months, without your insight, I'd not have known what to ask, didn't know there was such a thing as priority codes when ordering, etc....

    I've had my current GT for 10 years now so haven't had to dive into the auto buying process for a long time, let alone get into such a hassle trying to buy a 2005, which will hopefully now be a 2006!

    I started out in my teens & 20's owning 3 different VW bugs, went to a Trans Am, then a AWD Eagle Talon, which was a blast to drive. Then my 96 GT. I'd wanted a Mustang since high school and finally got my wish! Now I'm hooked.

    I know what a hot car I've got on order, but I'm just ticked I've had to wait since November of 2004 for it. And having to get back in line all over again for a 2006 with no promise nor idea when/if I'll ever get it. Specially when some ordered in March of 2005 and already have theirs, Ford is letting a computer pick who gets what and when, instead of fulfilling orders as they are ordered.

    Anyway, thanks again for your help and suggestions, I'll keep in touch and hopefully one of these days i'll be able to give you a big YIPPPPEEE!!!! IT'S HERE NOTE!! LOL....... :P
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,220
    purple...as always, my pleasure and glad I could help. Unfortunately, I've heard your scenario all too often.

    At this juncture, I can't tell if the ordering routine with no car in sight is a dealer problem or a plant problem.

    At first glance, I'd think it's a dealer problem. Like you, I bought mine in the dead of winter when car sales in general were stagnant. That's why you and I got deals well below MSRP. Once spring hit, and it became clear to the dealers that the Mustang was a runaway success, it became clear they didn't have to discount the Mustang (GT) to sell it. Some were getting crazy money for any GT they could get their hands on.

    I had heard more than a few stories of people ordering and paying under MSRP and, "poof", their order disappeared or couldn't be tracked. Same person, offering to pay MSRP, all of a sudden their car was miraculously "found" or ordered and delivered within 8 weeks (not 8 months). One person even found his X plan Mustang GT (complete with matching VIN #s) on his dealer's back lot. All the while the dealer stating the car wasn't even built yet. Fact is, the dealer had sold the ordered Mustang to someone else for MSRP. That was the entire reason it was sitting in the back lot....awaiting PDI and delivery to the person who paid more.

    Is this the case in your scenario? I don't know.

    Even though dealers are stand alone business entities (franshisees), separate from the factory, Ford chould have put pressure on the dealers to honor customer orders....mayve set up a "Mustang order task force" to do nothing but track customer cars.

    As it stands, I can feel and understand your frustration. If my dealer hadn't been so "upfront" with me about my order, and I hadn't known about priorities, allotment, VOCs, etc, I could be in the same boat since mine was an X plan car.

    Just for giggles, I think I'd take a Saturday afternoon and go to 4-5 different Ford dealers in your area and ask them what their status for '06 Mustang ordering is. See how many agree or disagree with what you're hearing from your present dealer. Even see if they agree with each other. That could give you a bit of insight on what's going on with Mustangs in your area.

    BTW, I always thought those AWD Turbo Talons were hot little numbers when they were on the street.

    Keep us posted.
  • drewlee13drewlee13 Posts: 1
    Got a call from a local dealer (metro detroit area) stating that he had an 05 Black Mustang GT Premium on the lot from a order that did not go thru. So I ran right up and test drove the car. Loved it. Since it was 6:10 on a friday 7/1, he said we could finish the deal on 7/5 (tuesday) Called him and did the whole credit app thing. Sales guy called back and stated that I was approved. I stated that I wanted to call my bank for a better rate, which I did and got 5.25%. Called him right back because I needed the VIN so that they could fedex me the check. He did not return my call until the next morning 7/6. He then faxed me the purchase agreement (x plan) just $1300 under MSRP. He then called me back 15 minutes later and said that another sales manager sold the car for cash and that it was GONE!. Translation....Someone came in and offered MSRP or more for the car so we sold it! WTF!. The dealer is really nice about it but can do nothing about it. They cannot get another 05 GT, and they are willing to order me a 06 that after reading these posts I may get sometime in 06' , gee thanks. I then called customer service and what a waste off time that is. I cannot believe that even though dealership are seperate, that there is no one at Ford Motor Company that oversees the dealerships interaction. After all these are FORD cars, right? Does anyone know someone to talk to at Ford Motor Company? There has to be someone who can help. Someone who can atleast ensure that we get an 06 timely.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • gnxdanmangnxdanman Posts: 18
    Graphic writes......or most, they can't find one (expecially GTs). Once they do, they are expecting X% off MSRP, or at least some sort of rebates.
    Then the wailing begins...."Ford did this on purpose (undestimating demand).....dealers are ripping me off at MSRP.....I found a car I like, but no one will deal....etc". So, if you've found a Mustang you like sitting on the lot (rare) and the dealer is sticking to MSRP, buy it. That's what the market is for this car.

    Graphicguy, Ford is going to Offer their employee price discount INCLUDING the Mustang V6 and GT shortly. People should just WAIT till then to buy/order it. You will get a decent price. I know the ultra expensive 2 seater GT will be excluded from the program though!!


    Graphic writes.....Or, if you really want similar performance and you don't mind derivative styling and sloppier handling, you can always buy a GTO. GM is offering those at the employee price. Still, that price is north of $30K (about the same as a Mustang convertible).

    For now. Starting August 1st, GTO is ExCLUDED from GM's employee pricing program, along with Corvette and medium duty GMC Pickups !!
  • gnxdanmangnxdanman Posts: 18
    Graphic writes I don't know of anyone who is ever pleased with the back seat of any coupe. It's just something that you live with. Back seat room isn't a high priority with me.

    I have to disagree with you on that one. The GTO coupe backseat is very impressive and just as comfortable as the front seats! The "GM" W body coupes, Monte SS and ex Grand Prix coupes were very roomy in back as well !! nearly 36" rear leg room vs only 30" in Mustang.



    Graphic writes My philosophy (a selfish one), as long as I don't have to ride back there, I don't particularly care. IF it's a major concern, then any coupe isn't going to be very satisfactory.

    I DISAGREE again, I have to ride in the back occasionally, mother in law gets picked up etc. After 1+ hr in backseat, very comfortable in GTO, just like front seats. A full sized adult me at 5'10 fits quite nicely back there with room to spare. Kudos to Holden on that one. Certain Mercedes Coupes are quite comfortable in back too. Of course, you don't buy a mustang for the backseat, best for kids or stereo equipment like subwoofers to sit on.

    The accord Coupe is semi decent as well. Mustangs have always had useless backseats for adults anyway.
  • gnxdanmangnxdanman Posts: 18
    The V6 is noisy/unrefined/coarse in the New Mustang esp if you floor it or are hard on it. It's a truck/SUV engine taken from Explorer/Ranger? At normal driving it's ok, but if you nail it, very CRUDE sounding. The 3800 in my GM cars was more refined.

    You don't want the 18" wheels, go with the 17", 18" will give you a bigger/harder turning radius esp. in mall parking lots and you will feel more bumps and more chance to damage wheel.

    You would have figured Ford would have been able to put the Subwoofer in the rear deck or under the seats like most cars to preserve space, esp. trunk space.
  • gnxdanmangnxdanman Posts: 18
    I think Ford did underestimate demand for GT/V8 cars.....Traditionally the V6 BASE mustang accounts for nearly 2/3 or 66% of Mustang sales. This year, the V6 is only 55% of sales. V8 is more popular.
  • gnxdanmangnxdanman Posts: 18
    graphic writes Add to that, from all outward appearances, it looks like Ford actually priced the Mustang GT too low (how often do you see that). That will translate into higher demand also. You must can't get this level of performance, handling, features and build quality anywhere near the Mustang's price (even at MSRP)

    Sorry got to disagree again. You got to check the facts Graphic
    WRX easily outhandles the Mustang and comes close 0-60 for same or less $$ and offers 4 doors.

    SRT-4 is $22k or less, similar perf. numbers to Mustang and similar handling, near .90 skidpad.

    In dollar per horsepower GTO is same or cheaper then Stang

    Even the FAMILY CAR Grand Prix/Impala now has more hp and torque then Mustang for similar price, 303hp + 325torque large/med 4 door with big trunk. 5.9 seconds and 27 EPA highway with 4 spd automatic!! Advantage of FWD for snow/rain.

    There are cars that BEAT or MATCH or COME close to Stang for SIMILAR or LESS $$.
  • Graphicguy, Ford is going to Offer their employee price discount INCLUDING the Mustang V6 and GT shortly. People should just WAIT till then to buy/order it. You will get a decent price. I know the ultra expensive 2 seater GT will be excluded from the program though!!

    FORD is NOT offering the employee discount on the MUSTANGS. Look closer at the add. They do not need to offer it on them. They sell themselves at the current price. Why would Ford lower the price? It sure would be nice though. About the best deal you are going to get is if you can get the x-plan (if you can find a dealership willing to honor it, and there are some out there, you just have to look) Also, the college grad $500 rebate is available on the V6, if you apply of course!
  • caballo1caballo1 Posts: 1
    Hate to sound like a cheerleader, but don't give up. I finally got fed up with the non-responsiveness from my big city dealer who didn't seem to know squat about the 06 so I decided to contact every small town dealer in my area and hit paydirt after about 6-7 calls/e-mails.

    I just picked up an 05 GT Coupe Premium with IUP, Shaker 500, etc. at X plan. I don't share the info to gloat, but just to point out that if you hit the right dealer at the right time you can still find a GT at a good price.

    Turns out the dealer I purchased from had a very large allotment of GT's (near a military base) and he needed to move some inventory. I was surprised to see this small town dealer carrying Roush and Saleen GT's as well. So net is that you may want to contact smaller dealers around military bases to see if you can also get a GT.

    If you're in Texas let me know and I'll let you know the dealer and sales person I dealt with.
  • Dealer called Monday, got final build sheet.
    Apparently on the truck/train on Tuesday.
    Thursday morning, arrived at the dealership lot
    Thursday afternoon, I'm a little deeper in debt with a HUGE smile on my face.
    2005 GT convertible, Sonic Blue, Parchment top and interior, about all the upgrades except the Shaker 1000 (might need the trunk space). Oh my God, she's beautiful! Picked her up just before remnants of T.S. Cindy blew through town, so Thursday night was spent in the garage :( . Friday was a different story, however. I got to put a few miles on her on the back roads, and this car is everything I hoped for. Handling, power, head turning ratio; all off the charts! I'm not sure I'm going to get the grass cut or any other chores done this summer!

    I know this not an advertising forum, but I want to publicly give major kudos to University Ford in Durham, NC. When I made my order in March, the dealer wouldn't even take my deposit until they were sure the car would fit in their 2005 allotment. When I finally was called about getting a car this summer, they had me in as a priority 10 and had delivery date pegged (in early June) as July 10. They were honest and straight forward all the way, and they have won a customer for life. Price? I paid MSRP, not a penny more, and am happy to have done so. No one tried to push paint protection, undercoating, extended warranty, or any of that other garbage on me.
    Alllright! Lets go Cruizin' :shades: :shades: :shades:
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,220
    "Thursday afternoon, I'm a little deeper in debt with a HUGE smile on my face. "

    Funny and great news. That's the way it's supposed to go.

    Congrats!!!! :D
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    What a cool post :) Cruiz on man :shades:
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    I have decided to buy a G35 coupe, and I am asking you Mustang GT fans to convince me not to. I would really appreciate your help, I am going to pull the trigger tomorrow.
  • vppreachervppreacher Posts: 72
    Gratz!

    Maybe you should change your username to sonicblujoy now?!

    frisconick,
    LOL! Don't do it man! Step away from the G35, Sir! PUT YOUR CHECKBOOK DOWN AND WALK BACK SLOWLY FROM THE INFINITI DEALERSHIP!
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    LOL :P

    Great post, thanks. But the GT is an expensive ride too. I have decided to wait untill the end of the month to see if dealers are a little more willing to deal. ;)
  • dweller1dweller1 Posts: 39
    caballo1,
    I am interested in contacting the dealer you bought from. My email is in my profile.I would be really interested in a dealer honoring x plan on a gt. thanks , jay
  • wildhorsewildhorse Posts: 10
    Yup our paper says NO MUSTANGS in that employee price deals. And a note to those thinking of the the Pontiac...we will never buy from them again after having a Bonneville go through 6 alternators in 2 years. Finally traded off the car right after the last new alternator was put in. I believe the car was a 96 or 97. Anyway I still do love our Mustang...its so hard to not drive it and get into the 98 chevy truck that just turned over 100,000 miles. :cry:
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    A chevy truck LOL :P
  • wildhorsewildhorse Posts: 10
    I have real horses so still need the truck for ranch things. :)
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    Can I ride on of your horses? I am a city boy, but I have been on horses all my live. :)
  • frnkrzzofrnkrzzo Posts: 87
    the really cool thing is, even though i paid msrp back in november, ford has actually quietly raised the base price by about $700 since then....so i guess i got one for 700 under msrp. i got money saying ford will bump the base price of a gt by at least another $1000 if not more for 2006......and they will still sell every freeking one they can make. keep waiting, bargain hunters. i'm sure it's going to work out fine for you. you can make fun of me once the big rebates and discounts start. no later than march of 2004 if i remember correctly.
  • lavrishevolavrishevo Posts: 312
    I was able to negotiate my price down to under invoice. I paid 21,100.00 for V6 with the sport package, "leather" and shaker 500. Also had the classic style rims with the spinners on them. Torch red with black interior. Being a rim lover I had to take those off and put some saucy 20" chrome baby's on there. Anyway you got to work it to get a good price. I refuse to ever pay MSRP. But it may also depend on the mood of the sales manager at the time.... dealerships are out to play you so you got to play them back.

    Daniel
    05 V6, MMR intake, Magnaflow, 20" Chrome Rims on 245/35/20 Toyo Proxis's, SCT custom tune.
    http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/25334/cat/500/ppuser/23762
  • So, Frisconick, What did you get?
  • jaykobyjaykoby Posts: 1
    Hey everyone, ben reading this forum since the middle of March. Got scared for a while there because I wasn't sure when I was going to get my GT, but I am happy to say that I finally picked her up from the dealer last Saturday after waiting just over 4 months for the car. Ordered the car on March 3, had a priority of 10, was told at the time 3 months. I kept calling my dealer once a week for status of the car and at one time was told it may not be built and I would have to get an '06. Then around June 20th I got a call saying the car was being built and would arrive on 7/7. Windveil Blue, IUP, 17" wheels, manual, shaker 1000. Absolutley love this car!!! Driving home all I could do was smile and laugh. This is my first new car and the wait was worth it. Now I am in debt for the next 5 years!!! Lol!!! Anyway, just wanted to say that even though it took a while to get the car, I am glad I got it and I cannot rave enough about this car. I love the looks I get from people while driving it, and the sound, man nothing beats the sound!!! For those of you waiting, have patience, this baby is worth it!!!
  • Congrats, Jaykoby. The enthusiasm goes on and on! Got mine July 7th, and I know exactly how you feel. Enjoy the envious looks, burbling exhaust, and the open road awaits
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,220
    Ford has had a couple of price increases on the '05 Mustang. I got mine before any of them (knocking on wood). It's not clear what the price for the '06s will be.

    You can make deals on V6s. GT's are another matter, entirely.

    fris.....G35s are nice cars. Much different than a Mustang, however.

    I don't think anyone is going to try to talk you out of the G35. If you've driven a Mustang GT and it didn't grab you, then I'd stick with the G35. It won't be as fast nor as visceral as the Mustang, but you've got that "warm & fuzzy" feeling that Infiniti dealers will give you. You'll also have to pay more for that G35.

    But, if you're in love with it, that's what you should get.
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