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Porsche 911



  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,408
    What gives is that the dealer is crazy.

    He thinks that the extra low miles are worth some kind of gold. I priced out 120 ads for year 2000 911s, all types, all mileages, and the average asking price was $27,000. So given the possibility of a 5 to 10% "give " on asking prices, the price guides seem dead on.

    You could even buy a 2000 Carrera 4 cabriolet with 14,000 for around $30K.

    Laugh as you drive by the dealership and wave.


  • chibachiba Posts: 6
    no need for any porsche dealer to certify. price for early series 996 on the high side, but guess this exceptionally high price tag based on low mileage. Whether you purchase from a dealer or not you would want to have an INDEPENDENT p.p.i. done including leakdown test.
    the 996 series - especially early yrs like the one you are looking at are prone to main seal failures and you would want to make sure the car has been "fixed" considering its not been driven much imo,
  • birdtripbirdtrip Posts: 5
    edited April 2010
    Thanks Buylow; yah my coverage goes to end of 2011. the car is sick; only reason I would want records is just to have em', piece of mind. I worry too much, but I guess I don't worry all the time or I would not have been buying a Porsche in 2009 when they were talking about the world imploding. :<)

    Bottom line for the price, you can't even put a dollar value on these cars in terms of enjoyability.

    Thanks again, and I like your color choices; all my cars are always black. I need to brighten up:<)

    Isn't the Carrera GT like 300 at least brand new or is that the GT3? quite the deal u got there bro at 65G 3 years old, man you want to run my business :<). I love my 19 inchers too, they handle better than an NBA 1 guard. Not to jinx it, but other people have told me 2006 was a great year for 911's of all types. I doubt I'll ever sell mine just maybe hand it down to a younger family member. If I am lucky to make 50-7 more years-I will go turbo as that has always been my dream the 911 turbo, but having the 997 I thank the big electron every day.

    PS I have the Nav. system, and I love it, but this is my every day car save for snow days when I use our other car-2000Audi. Hope I didn't make too many of you old schoolers cringe, but I love the creature comforts as my car is loaded, and for a Porsche; a child could drive it. Shifting on the steering wheel is sacreligious to some on here, but I love it.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,666
    I think a Carrera GT was more like $600K..

    911 GT3 is about $115K + options..

    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • midlo00midlo00 Posts: 1
    Yes, I own this vehicle and do not waste your money for the warranty.
  • dhsieh9dhsieh9 Posts: 44
    Last week, I took my Carrera to a local Porsche specialty shop for 60k miles service. According to their $850 quote with replacement parts including brake fluid, Mobil one oil, windshield washer fluid, spark plugs, poly rib belt, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, pollen filter, and misc. seal rings plus 25 lines checklist. I was pretty happy that the total outdoor price was $950 due to a few additional items that the mechanic recommends to replace. I remember that my previous 1999 Lexus RX-300 cost me more than $1200 for 60k miles service at the local Lexus dealer. I guess owning a reliable year-model Porsche is really a pleasant experience when it comes to service. Of course, I can't foretell how much I will have pay moving forward though. I hope that my 2008 Cayman S can do the same as my Carrera when it reaches 60k miles.
  • buylowbuylow Posts: 41
    I'm pretty sure the Carrera GT sold for around $430,000 new. Mr Shiftright would know. I believe one could be had for around $330,000 now. I saw one at the dealer last year getting a new clutch for the tune of $50,000 and this was the guys second clutch. Very small clutch, actually three disks in a row - smaller diameter makes for a lower center of gravity and three disks makes for more surface space, pretty neat stuff.

    Am I reading your message correctly. You have paddle shifters? I thought they were only recently available with the PDK. Enjoy what you like. These guys that will only drive air cooled cars don't know what they are missing. I have the old -356, 912 , 911sc, and the new. Each generation has its own personality. You can't get it all in one car. A guy that only drives a 997 is going to laugh the first time he drives an early 911, but if you know how to drive an early 911, they can be so much fun, but a different kind of fun than driving a 997. I'm sure there's a better way of putting it. The cars are amazing. They came from racing so they are very well built which is nice when you buy the older ones because you're not getting a bucket of bolts. Have fun.
  • birdtripbirdtrip Posts: 5
    You have paddle shifters?

    I apologize, as I don't know what you mean exactly when you refer to paddle shifters. I can shift using buttons on my steering wheel. A lot of folks on here who obviously know much more than me rag on the Tiptronic, but I am amazed at how well it works. From what I have read, that must be why they are so friendly at point of sale with the tip 997's. Christ I am just happy that part of every day, save snow, I have the pleasure of this amazing vehicle. And no matter what the old schoolers say, to be able to shift without stepping on a clutch, and shifting a stick, but by just pressing a button seems amazing. On smaller streets at slower speeds, sometimes it's nice to not have the car in its highest gear, as long as you don't over rev it. Still, I usually just throw it in drive, and lean back to everything from Beethoven to the Beatles. It makes it a LOT easier when one is tired and the wife asks you to go do her a favor; a lot easier. To me, a Celtics fan, it's like comparing Cousy to Rondo, when old schoolers talk about the old Porsches vs. the new. Granted Larry legend was my era but I digress.

    The guy who sold me my car was a race car driver when he was younger, and even though talking up the car is his job, even he seemed pretty amazed at what the new Porsches can do. No The Tip is obviously not a PDK, but for me it's great-knock on wood. That said, I'd love to drive the new PDK as I hear they are equal to or even better than an old school standard. Whatever different strokes for different folks. We are all very lucky to enjoy these magical innovations. I wonder how long until they fly? Still even then, there will be folks who say the 993's are better :)
  • wamswams Posts: 2
    I have a 2002 Boxster. The tip tonic transmission was rebuilt. After driving it for only 66 miles, the tip tonic decided on its downshift from 5th to 4th and the speed went down from 70 mph to 50 mph. I pulled over to the side and waited for 5 minutes and decided to get back on the road. When I went up to 60 mph, a high pitch whining noise, followed by a boom noise and black smoke trail. Immediately, I pulled over to the side and saw a whole lot of fluid gush out. I had the car towed to a nearby garage/shop and had it hoisted. The mechanic took off the cover and found that the differential on the right side (looking from the back side) had a hole. That was the boom I heard. The fluid color was like light barley color. I thought that the tip tonic fluid per Porsche spec, is supposed to be light pink (fresh/new) and over the time, the color changed to darker. Can someone please tell me if wrong type of tip tonic fluid was used or the differential is totally separate from the tip tonic and has its own fluid? Many thanks in advance.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,408
    Oh, what a drag. Too bad!

    No, the transaxle fluid is SAE 75w/90.

    I'm not sure what the relation of the accidental downshifting was to the transaxle bursting. Here's a theory-----Probably the differential was seizing up, putting a drag on the engine, causing a downshift (as if you were going up a hill).

    Maybe you can scare up a used differential. It's not so hard to R&R the diff.


  • ghussghuss Posts: 1
    edited April 2010
    Greetings people,

    I am planning on trading in my 2008 Careera S with a 2010. Would anyone know when the current model will be changed or replaced with a new shell?
  • buylowbuylow Posts: 41
    I don't think anyone knows when the next generation will come out, although, I do not follow the magazines and internet sites very closely. Our local Porsche dealer did not know. His best guess was a couple of years.
  • etsiapetsiap Posts: 2
    Thanks for your reply - the end of this story came about when the mechanic removed the alternator and replaced the alternator to battery connection. He said it looked corroded. It works now.

    1988 911 Targa Battery Drain

    1) Replace dead battery.
    2) New battery died within a few weeks.
    3) Took Targa to the shop (mechanic has 30 years experience fixing Porsches).
    4) Mechanic replace alternator, battery and connecting cable. Also added an on/off switch to the battery for long parking periods. Over 1G in repair cost.
    5) Drove car 80 miles, dead battery, no start.
    6) Took car back to mechanic, he reported that there was a bad cell in the Interstate battery. Replaced battery.
    7) Drove car ~ 80 miles and noticed that my head lights and dash lights were weak. Once home, I took a closer look and the lights were copper colored, tried to re-start, battery dead.
    8) I am taking the car into the mechanic for the third time today.
  • wrealmanwrealman Posts: 1
    What would you recommend for 928 specialists in S.F. bay area? Thanks.
  • bigdog43bigdog43 Posts: 3
    I am looking at some 1999-2000 911 Porsche's some are around 80-100k miles Should that scare me or what do I look for? Any help apprecate. New to Porsche
  • chibachiba Posts: 6
    these cars (especially early water cooled 996 series) were prone to main seal failures and both can be expensive to maintain/repair.
    any purchase should be subject to an extensive p.p.i. completed by an independent porsche mechanic.
    the test should include a properly completed leakdown test on all cylinders (if you don't know what that is google it along with compression test)identification of any fluid leakage/extent thereof among other things.
    buying a car privately from a caring owner who has maintained maintenance history
    will likely be cheaper & better than purchasing from a dealer.
    good luck (964 WTL cab)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,408
    I figured he missed something. I got real worried when I heard about the on/off switch being added. This suggests a lack of confidence (to me). A Battery Tender is a much more elegant solution.


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,408
    Yes, the *only* place that knows 928s inside and out in Norcal is, in my opinion, Hi-Tec Automotive in San Rafael CA. 415 258-9619. Speak to Brad and tell him Joe sent you. The owner's name is Deven and he will sit down with you and discuss where to go with your car. They have all the special tools and diagnostics.


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,408
    I agree, early 996s need a thorough inspection. High mileage is not a worry on a Porsche 911 as a general rule, but early manufacturing errors might be. On the other hand, if the early 996 has never had the problem, then it probably never will have it.

    Nonetheless it is not a co-incidence that when Porsche goes racing, they convert a 993 engine case to water-cooling and build that up to a racing engine.


  • bigdog43bigdog43 Posts: 3
    thanks Yes this is from a owner. actually trying to trade him my Corvette. I was looking alot at Boxster's,but the 911 996 is nice . So I asked the gentleman if seal was done, but he has only owned the car 3+ years less then 4 so not sure. Thanks again
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