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What Wagon Would You Like To See Offered?

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  • jthornerjthorner Posts: 2
    It is good to see that I am not the only one who wants the all around versatility, comfort and economy of a good midsized wagon. Here it is 2006 and there are still very few choices. The Acura TSX sedan is an outstanding value in it's class for the level of performance, equipment, reliability record, etc. I would write a check for a wagon version today!

    I drove the New Passat Wagon and it is a decent driving car, but the level of electronic gimmicks VW has put on there (push button electric parking brake!) along with VW's recent spotty reliability gives me great concern. I dont' want to spend big bucks for a new car only to develop a close relationship with the service manager. I already have a family.

    The Volvo V70 is the right size, but gets expensive when you put decent equipment on it. Volvo reliability isn't in the gutter like VW, but isn't great either.

    Acura should be able to make a TSX wagon easily as the base vehicle is the non-US market Accord and is already built as a wagon for the rest of the world. The TSX is already a relatively low volume niche vehicle, so please give us a wagon!

    The problem with the final generation Accord and Camry wagon was that Honda and Toyota cheaped out and use the sedan rear door on the wagon, which then caused them to have this huge blind-spot creating sail shape in metal behind the rear door.

    Subaru could also give up it's religious dedication to four wheel drive and offer a better fuel economy, lower priced FWD option.

    All in all, things are not much better in the wagon market today then they were when this thread started :(.

    John
  • tazerelitazereli Posts: 241
    WRX STi Wagon and the Forester STi.

    A Subie purist.

    PS I hope Subaru never strays from their AWD roots. Let Toyota and Honda have the FWD piece of the pie.
  • chuck1959chuck1959 Posts: 654
    Subaru could also give up it's religious dedication to four wheel drive and offer a better fuel economy, lower priced FWD option.

    That would not be a wise move IMO. After all four wheel drive is what Subaru is all about. It has been for years.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    AWD may be what they are about, but it is what keeps me from buying one. The gas mileage just is not there. Otherwise like the vehicle a lot.
  • I love my 1971 Datsun 510, but it's just too old now. The 510 is a good little mule in that you can lift up the rear seat bottom and fold down the seat back for a 100% flat cargo area. Great for moving small furniture or lots of stuff.

    I recently bought a Scion xB, which I also love, but the one major drawback is the lack of cargo area. Also, the rear seats don't fold down all the way flat.

    I would have been looking at a Nissan wagon if they sold any here! I really like the Nissan Cube, but they have never offered it here. I'm guessing that re-engineering the car to left -hand drive just to compete with the xB is too much effort for Nissan. What happenned to the little fuel economy cars they made that made Nissan popular here in the US? Now they are selling the Artmada and the Titan, which is so far from the 510 and 521 pickup that I can barely believe they made my old 510 beater wagon.

    Bring on the Cube!!!
  • I wish BMW would sell the new 335 version of the wagon in NA. Better yet, the new M3-based wagon when it comes out (if ever)...not that I could afford that one :P Not to forget, 550 and M5 wagons if someone were to fancy a bigger wagon.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    I wish BMW would sell the new 335 version of the wagon

    i'll second that!

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • This is my first personal VW. It is everything I could ask for, quick,loads of storage,handles well. I also love the heated seats up here in the great white north!
    i picked it up in July with 22k km. I am thrilled everytime i go for a ride!
  • Here's my question - the only luxury or near luxury wagons you can find are from European Auto Makers (Mercedes, BMW, Saab, Volvo, Audi, VW, etc...). Why do American auto makers insist on compormizing with Crossover vehicles? There are plenty of SUVs out there if you really want one, Why not offer a true wagon? I'd love to se Cadillac ditch the SRX, and put out a CTS or STS wagon. How about a Lincoln MKZ wagon?
  • Sorry, can't get over the Magnum's rear-sloping roofline. I'm sure it's fun to drive and all, but I can't get around that one feature. It just doesn't have the same appealing overall shape as the Charger. Besides, it' a DODGE!
  • I am looking for a vehicle for work and as the main family car that can also transport a large dog. I am looking at Subaru Outback, VW passat wagon-But mostly I need to hear if anyone is happy or miserable with their choice. Please share! Is the Outback too small for passengers? Is the VW too repair prone? What else is out there?
    Thanks!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    new or used?

    what is your price range?

    does it have to be 5-spd or is 6-spd ok? ;b

    there is the volvo V70, both base and R version.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • ktongktong Posts: 6
    I would love to see the JDM Odyssey (Japan Domestic Odyssey) offered in the USA at Accord prices and make it available in the 4-cyl engine.

    I would also like to see a wagon based on the USA Honda Accord or the Toyota Camry.

    I don't know why Honda or Toyota stopped offering station wagons. The last Accord Wagon ('97) was also very good looking.
  • so would a Ford Fusion/Milan.

    I own a 2005 Outback and just purchased a low mileage 2000 Volvo V70 which is OH SO COMFORTABLE (unlike the Outback)

    I love wagons!!!
  • jaffeejaffee Posts: 10
    I would love to have an Accord wagon. I'm done with the minivan and sedans aren't really big enough for 2 dogs. I really believe there is a great market for an Accord or Camry wagon. But I haven't read anything about either Honda or Toyota bringing back their wagons.

    I think I once saw a JDM Odyssey. I liked it.
  • chasmanchasman Posts: 16
    jaffee,
    I couldn't agree with you more.

    To All Japanese Wagon Enthusiasts,

    Apparently, not enough of us have expressed our desire to purchase an Accord, Camry, Legacy, Mazda6, or TSX wagons directly to the manufacturers. Perhaps, we have been patiently waiting on the sidelines for the manufacturer to correct some significant issue identified in a test report.

    If we do not make our wishes known, as gas becomes more & more expensive our only choices will be less efficient SUVs/trucks/minivans, small hatchbacks, or sedans with the limited cargo capacity that a trunk affords.

    Please contact one or more of the following companies and let them know that an SUV is not an acceptable substitute for a practical, fuel-efficient, agile wagon.

    * Acura Client Services 800-382-238 M-F 6 AM - 5 PM PST
    * Honda Customer Relations 800-999-1009 M - F, 6 a.m. - 5 p.m., PT
    * Mazda Contact Us 800-945-6000 M - F, 7am - 8pm CT, 7am - 12pm CT
    * Subaru Contact Us 800-782-2783 M - Thr, 8:30 a.m. - 7 p.m. EST, F, 10:30 a.m. - 5 p.m.
    * Toyota Customer Experience Center 800-331-4331 M - F, 5:00 am - 6:00 pm PT, Sat, 7:00 am - 4:00 pm PT
  • chasman, you are absolutely correct. We do need to let the manufacturers know our preferences. I just read about the Frankfurt auto show in the NYTimes and saw that Honda offers an Accord wagon in Europe and Toyota sells wagons there too. The article said that US customers don't want them, but many of us do. I'm definitely going to call and write them and try to get my friends to do the same.
  • Hello jaffee,

    After e-mailing Mazda,

    * Topic: "Product Information"
    * Subtopic: "Suggestions & opinions"

    I received the following reply:

    RE: Product Information - Suggestions & Opinions

    Hello,

    Thanks for contacting Mazda.

    I am pleased you took the time to bring your suggestion regarding the
    MAZDA6 Wagon to our attention. Consumer feedback is always very
    important to Mazda. Certainly, we want to offer exciting vehicles,
    and comments such as yours help us to achieve that goal.

    Rest assured I have documented your suggestion for our corporate
    record. These records are continuously being reviewed by our Product
    Development Department in an effort to provide only the highest
    quality products to our customers.

    Again, thank you for bringing these suggestions to our attention.

    Regards,

    Gylan D.
    Specialist, Customer Assistance
    Mazda North American Operations

    Perhaps if Mazda receives enough customer feedback requesting a Mazda6 Wagon, we will see one in the US sometime in second half of 2008. So keep those calls & e-mails coming!
  • * Acura Client Services 800-382-2238 (press 5) M-F 6 AM - 5 PM PST
    * Honda Customer Relations 800-999-1009 M - F, 6 a.m. - 5 p.m., PT
    * Mazda Contact Us 800-945-6000 M - F, 7am - 8pm CT, Sat. 7am - 12pm CT
    * Subaru Contact Us 800-782-2783 M - Thr, 8:30 a.m. - 7 p.m. EST, F, 10:30 a.m. - 5 p.m.
    * Toyota Customer Experience Center 800-331-4331 M - F, 5:00 am - 6:00 pm PT, Sat, 7:00 am - 4:00 pm PT
  • The new Malibu would make a nice Nomad!
  • First and formost, any wagon should be FUNCTIONAL. I want a wagon that is fully capable of hauling a 17 foot canoe. That means a REAL roof rack or some kind of rain gutter to secure top lines. After-market roof racks are NOT the answer.
    just as important, it also needs something solid at the front and rear bumpers to secure bow and stern lines to. No vehicle currently on the market is capable of this very basic application.
  • First and formost, any wagon should be FUNCTIONAL. I want a wagon that is fully capable of hauling a 17 foot canoe. That means a REAL roof rack or some kind of rain gutter to secure top lines. After-market roof racks are NOT the answer.
    Just as important, it also needs something solid at the front and rear bumpers to secure bow and stern lines to. No vehicle currently on the market is capable of this very basic application.
  • carthellcarthell Posts: 124
    They're giving previews of the Venza.I haven't seen the vehicle up close, but it looks like it'll be the closest that the company will get to a wagon in this market. I am concerned about the proposed wheel sizes, however (19"? 20"? Why?).
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    The Venza bugs me. It is tantalizingly close to a wagon, yet is worse in every way. Just a little to tall/heavy/over engined/ and SUV like while at the same time being smaller than a regular Camry wagon would be.
  • I'm new to the wagon forum and appreciate knowing someone is tracking this topic. I have been following the TSX/Euro Accord wagon for many months now and would love to have one, Last week I was in touch with one of my clients who happens to work at American Honda Motor. He suggested to me that Honda has plans to unveil a wagon in the states based on the TSX platform. Can anyone validate this? And today I spoke to a local car dealer's attorney here in Columbus and he said these European models won't pass emmisions standards and the crash tests. It would require expensive re-tooling and the manufacturer just won't sell enough of these models to make it worth their while. Any comments would be appreciated.
  • atuchanatuchan Posts: 3
    I can not agree with you more! It will make a nice and roomy wagon. If they think it is too crumped, they could take the 3rd row seats for the U.S.

    BTW, I really do not understand why Honda consistently market different cars under same names for different regions. It is so confusing.
  • carthellcarthell Posts: 124
    "BTW, I really do not understand why Honda consistently market different cars under same names for different regions. It is so confusing."

    It is confusing if you're planning to ship vehicles from one market to another. Otherwise, the buyers in each market are definitely not confused about the offerings of Honda.

    Honda is still offering trucks in north America, which sucks. Their offerings gained a few dimensions in size, too, which is probably a thrill-a-minute in the current environment of $4/gallon gasoline. (But that's another thread.)
  • hsweethsweet Posts: 1
    I'm on my third Taurus wagon now and will hang in there until something resembling this car is offered. It is a car with all of the comforts of a car, great gas mileage, good reliability, safety, enormous power and serious space. What more do people need?
  • A little quiet here lately so I will spice things up with this :)

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/10/report-acura-considering-tsx-wagon-for-the-u-- s/

    I have been a long time Honda fan. I currently own an S2000. I have always loved the high revving engines from Honda and sporty suspensions and driving characteristics. I think Honda has missed the boat here. They had a perfect platform to fill the need for those looking for an alternative to SUV's. My perfect wagon would be like to the old Mazda Protege5 in looks and handling with one of Honda's K20 engines that get at least 30 mpg. Currently the only thing that comes close is the Mazda3 hatch. A great car but I think Honda could make a better wagon. My current wagon is a 2002 Forester which works perfect for my 2 greyhounds but is no fun to drive. I like the Impreza/WRX but not the weight and fuel penalty that come with the AWD which I only really need maybe 6 times in a year.
  • Got mine last January (6M) and had been going to the pumps less often. With a good technique, you can get more than 50 mpg highway. A full tank takes me over 550 miles. Diesel costs about the same as RUG, if not lower.

    Lots of torque, and you'll soon forget you're not driving a gas engine. Hills and mountains, no problem. I climb the Pocono Mountains in PA on 6th gear, no sweat. Not the fastest car, I agree, but who needs speeding tickets anyway? 75 is plenty fast.

    Am looking to buy another diesel wagon, manual as well, but there's not much choice around. Used to buy Audis but they're not offering AWD with manual transmission anymore. Their only diesel is the FWD A3, but no manual. A BMW 335D is selling for nearly 50K, well-equipped (RWD only, sorry), and hate their "only run-flat tires" stance. Don't like SUV's or cross-overs, even if they are diesels. Been there, done that. I noticed some posts complaining about the lack of Japanese wagons, which I could consider. Wagons don't sell, huh? Did you ever seen a VW TDI wagon on a lot sitting for a long time? Had to wait over six months for mine, and had to pay sticker. You might have a better luck.
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