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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • mike91326mike91326 SoCalPosts: 245
    Well it was a wagon and it was a TDI. I didn't talk to anyone but without the factory sticker I would guess that it was not for sale at this time.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    I also think (from my 2009 VW shopping experiences anyway) that while the local dealership started out @ above MSRP (2,000 over) , they really "got with the program" so to speak as the 2009 model year sales effort progressed. This is despite a HUGE interest in the TDI option.

    This is probably a cruising straight and level @30,000 foot, 20/20 hind sight statement. I think the VW system thought the 2009 goal of 25% diesel was probably VERY aggressive. So I think they just gave the green light to do what it reasonably took to hit those goals. For the JSW, while I do not know the exact TDI target %, even they acknowledged they were more than pleased and did not fore see an 81% JSW TDI scenario. This probably caused a logistic hiccup in providing 56% more TDI engines and drive trains. So I read in passing while the 2009 goal was 25%, they look almost slam dunk to post app 30% or 20% better. I also read in the same article they leaped out and set 40% TDI targets for 2010 MY.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    If VW sells 40% diesel, you can bet Honda and some of the others will get off the dime and bring there own.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    I think that VW might see that 40% diesel target and execution as a two edged sword. :blush:

    On the other hand, if the factors coalesce, why would they not want to EXCEED 40% ? Say like 50-55%?.

    That 81% TDI JSW (Jetta Station Wagon) figure must have really jazzed them, especially if the target was 25% !?
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    I am not sure what this will ultimately mean, but it would seem the buzz would annoint the 2009 JSW TDI an almost instant "CLASSIC".

    There is some serious talk the 2010 JSW (wagon) will be cosmetically changed on the road to being rebadged a GOLF (Jettas are merely a variant of "GOLF" in European markets) and the model year after (2011) will be "Americanized". 2011 is supposed to be slated for a "design change?" aka MK (6) VI (vs current MK V (5)) Lastly if the Chattanogga, TN plant is finished in time, "assembled in AMERICA". I am sure they will have articles describing the operative terms to all of this.
  • I fully expect that the Jetta SportWagen will lose the Jetta name after this year. As the 2010 front end is now a copy of the MkVI Golf while the sedan retains the '09 front clip for it's final model year before it's redesign in 2011, I'd guess that JSW will become either a Golf SportWagen or just "SportWagen" after 2010.

    Call it what you want...I can't wait to pick up my ordered '10 TDI SportWagen!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    And we are eager to hear how well you like it.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    Indeed !!

    This might also serve to make the 2009 & 2010 JSW, two of the hottest used car models. (starting in 2010 on up (for the 2009 obviously) )
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    I think the biggest advantage of the 2010 SportWagons is the fact that VW has put the steering wheel controls back on them.

    I just bought my Jetta TDI this week but it's a 2006 71,000 miles White with beige leather, rear deck spoiler, wood dash trim kit and Package 2 options. :shades:
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    Did you get the manual or DSG? In any case, congrads !
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    The vihicle is in Houston Texas, I live in Alberta...real handy.

    Will probably "fly down and drive it home", a typical eBay car story. Probably take me about 5 days of steady driving to do it, so if there is anything that can go wrong, it probably will on the trip home.

    This guys buys Slavage cars and rebuilds them. He has sold a pile of VW's over the past few years and everybody seems to think he is a VW Guru, one guy in Canada has brought back 2 of his projects for his personal use, and loves them.

    The cars selected for his re-builds are all repaired with new VW OEM metal and parts, no bondo work. He stays away from anything that has flood or frame damage.

    It's a big leap of faith I know, but this particular DSG car and options is exactly what I wanted, so who cares if the front end tin, bumper, hood, radiatior and headlights are all brand new?

    Time and the drive 2500 miles home will tell.

    Wish me Luck! :shades:
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    It sounds like a GREAT road trip !! All the best !! These TDI's are literally tailor made for road trips as you outline !!
  • I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I am fired up about the 2010 Jetta sportwagen tdi with the new face as well as the 2010 Golf tdi. They seem to be the best of both worlds (fuel miser world and fun to drive world). I mean even driven hard these bad boys get low to mid 30s mpg. Name another car that when driven hard can obtain such mileage. It's a very short list. Bravo Vdub.
  • Greetings everybody,
    I am in the market for the 2010 JSW Tdi and is being quoted $2500 over msrp. I know this is ridiculous but would like to know what should I expect and any suggestions for a dealership in the Dallas/FortWorth region. Here are the excerpts from the dealers email.

    "These cars haven't been given prices from VW yet, however, just like every TDI in the country since 2006, they will sell for over sticker. The range, depending upon who you are dealing with, is MSRP + 2500-7500. We only add 2500"

    Thanks everybody and hope the dealers attitude does not steer me away from the VWs.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    Depending on what you perceive as available options and/or opportunities, I would not rule out cross country dealers. Of course, it would have to make economic sense at some level. On TDIClub.com you might want to look up a poster 3193 and start a conversation with him.

    It is the beginning of the new MY and of course dealers want to sell for as high as they can for as long as they can. So if time is not of the essence,you might want to wait a bit, doing your research in the mean time and go try out the JSW @ different times and dealerships and test the pricing waters. As time progresses, the prices might get more to your liking or to be perfectly honest, not. The 2009 worked that way at about the 3rd month, or early January. All the best.
  • ruking1,

    Thank you very much for the reply and the suggestions. I can wait until earlier part of next year. My only concern is that I will lost the $1300 tax credit but if I am saving 2-3 grant then it is definetly worth waiting.

    As you suggested I will contact 3193 at tdiclub.

    Appreciate it.
    sailakfan
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    I think the dealer is stretching the truth a bit. The Sportswagen is virtually sold off the truck as they come in here in San Diego. However our dealers are selling them at VW MSRP. I would email dealers in other states and cities and see what they can do. You would be better off ordering just what you want. If you are using a trade that does confuse the situation. I highly recommend selling rather than trading. By the way Sedan TDIs were selling at invoice not that long ago. The JSW has never been an easy buy below MSRP. Maybe if they ever catch up with demand it will change.

    PS
    the $1300 tax credit is good till VW sells 60,000 TDIs. I don't think they are close yet.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,006
    I think I read somewhere where the state of Texas has some kind of income tax credit for the sales tax and also if buying this year there is the Federal income tax deduction for the sales tax. The Fed tax deduction is not worth that much but every little bit helps. All of this in addition to the Fed tax credit for the high efficiency autos.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    It can be a tad complicated, but yes $1,300 FED tax CREDIT. I read Conn had state sales tax exemption (for 2009 VW TDI). Shoot the Fed might even bring back the $4,500 CFC program???
  • Please forgive me if I posted in the wrong area.

    What year can I start buying a new model TDI? Someone explained to me that there are older TDI's and new ones...and that I wanted a newer one with newer technology that burned cleaner and ran quieter.

    But I am not sure what model year I can start safely looking for the TDI with this new technology. I did notice that in 2006 there was a new type of diesel being created, but I am not sure if that means I should be looking for a 2006 TDI or newer?

    Any help greatly appreciated,

    Phil
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    The 2009 Jetta TDI is the latest technology. The 2006 was a good diesel engine for sure. Just did not meet CA emissions. Though you can bring a used one into CA and register, as long as it has 7500 miles or more. Finding a used 2009 Jetta TDI will be a trick. I would just buy a new one and get the full warranty. Shop around as there are a lot of dealers gouging customers on the price. Send emails to as many dealers as you can.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,898
    Upshot: Starting with the 2009 MY.

    If I understand what you are asking. So for example, if you are asking about the so called "latest" 50 state legal standards.

    The 2003 MY on back were actually 50 state legal !! :shades: New cars sales of MY 2004 to 2006 were banned from 5 states. So by process of subtraction was 45 state legal, new car sales were legal in 90% of these here USA. A bit not so clear cut, as however CA, which was one of the so called leaders in this, would/will allow registration with 7,500 miles, aka, USED car. I am sure the remaining 4 states have/had similar exemptions. However, the only one that I know of for sure is CA.
  • I spoke with these folks trying to make a deal to take advantage of the clunkers
    program. Even then they were not quoting above MSRP. However, in the end, they could come through with a vehicle. Apparently there was another dealer sitting on a couple of TDI sportwagons who they had purchased a couple from.

    I'd be interested to know if they actually have the cars. A dealer in Salt Lake is trying to tell me they have 3 2010 TDI Sportwagons. Others are telling me they can't get them until end of October.

    Also, I'm finding a couple of 2009 TDI sportwagons that are apparently the result of deals falling through.

    I'd be interested to hear what others are finding at dealers new them.
  • Basically bought mine online. My credit union has a direct connection with the dealers. I typed all local dealers,told them the color and features I wanted- and what I was willing to pay. I let them know the other dealers who were giving me quotes- and let them battle it out online. I never even stepped into a dealership until the day I bought it. I had a trade in-(02 passat) that I was upside down on- they worked with me. Very happy with my purchase...Bought it March of '09 from a dealer in Marin ( Northern California)- Sonnen
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    Most of the San Diego dealers have a good supply of 2010 Jetta TDI sedans. I don't see any of the new Sportwagens yet. In all SD there is only one Sportwagen gasser listed. I would guess by next week you can get a good buy on a Jetta TDI sedan.
  • Just a note. I work in California for a VW dealer in a major metro area. No dealer anywhere in this state will be selling Jetta TDI SportWagons for MSRP; there are just too few of these cars coming in. If someone does claim they bought one for MSRP, that dealer is likely on it's last legs financially. You must remember we are in the biggest slowdown in vehicle sales ever. If a dealer is going to survive it must have at least one vehicle that is profitable; they can't survive on service operations. Just check how many dealerships have gone out of business.

    2010 Jetta TDI sedans can sell relatively close to MSRP, since there will be more of them. Due to the relatively low price of diesel fuel (it's about $.20 a gallon less than regular gas) and the diesels far better long term operating cost over hybrids it's by far the smart choice for owners that keep their cars a long time or drive alot of miles.
  • I just bought a 2010 Jetta TDI Sedan today and got it for about $200 under invoice at Suntrup VW in St.Louis. They just received 2 of the 2010 TDI SportWagons and I was told that they already had offers to pay the MSRP but the owner is holding out for more as they are so hard to come by.I live 90 miles from St. Louis and this was the very best deal I could get as the dealers who are closer did not have any TDI's on their lots. I was afraid that I would lose the Federal Tax Credit if I waited too much longer that is why I went ahead and payed more than I wanted to.This is the first VW Jetta , the first TDI, that I have ever owned and the ride home was just great. Seventeen inch wheels made the ride smoother and handling was a dream. I can't wait to see what my mileage will be after the first tank. It is a great vehicle.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    I would say that is a very good deal. Keep us posted on your mileage and how well you like it. I would not expect to get a great deal on the Sportwagen TDI until about the end of November. That is depending how many they bring in. They only dribbled the 2009s in so they were a tough car to deal on.
  • ike3ike3 Posts: 81
    I have a really hard time believing that. Did you mean to say $200. under dealer MSRP? Or $200. under any dealer add-ons to the MSRP sticker? If you paid more than you wanted to, why would anyone believe your story then?
    These cars are in short supply and high demand, even in middle America. Perhaps
    pricing will drop in January once the Federal tax credit expires. But certainly not now.
    For some, the gasoline version may be the better deal overall. Especially the new Golf 2.5 liter 3 door hatch. Unless one does more than 15,000 miles a year, I really don't see any advantage to going to TDI for the added premium one must pay.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,018
    I cannot find any information that says the tax credit ends in January. The VW tax credit will be cut in half after they reach 60,000 total TDI sales. Toyota and Honda have phased out. Ford will phase out 4/1/2010. VW, BMW & MB have a ways to go before they are cut in half. You will always get the premium back on resale. Unless you keep the car a long time.
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