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Volkswagen TDI Models Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • Picked up my 2009 Jetta TDI in September of 2009. Took advantage of the cash for clunkers and traded in an old Durango. Got $4500 from Obama and another $1300 on the tax credit. Paid the dealer $21500 cash all in. With the tax credit netted $20,200 all in. TDI were going at a premium then but as Duranango was only worth about $2k.. all in all great deal.

    Had some electricall issue with horn and windshield wiper motor, but all cleared up.

    I have put on 15k+ mile plus in 6 months. 30 local 40 highway mix over 44 long distance highway. Car is fantastic.

    Black auto
  • Found the 2010 Jetta TDI model we want at a dealer in South Florida.

    MSRP is 24,680.00, salesman will sell it for 24,100.00 Plus taxes and tag.

    But they will not budge on a $599.95 dealer service fee.

    Is this the best we can do ????

    Would it make sense to order this car? We can wait if we can get a better price.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,043
    What are you supposed to get for that $600 dealer fee? I would be looking at dealers across the state. Get the inventory list from here on Edmund's and start emailing dealers. I think they are pulling a scam. None of the dealers in CA have such a charge that I see.
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    edited April 2010
    Dear MJ...you asked for advice, so here goes...don't deal on any 2010 Jetta right now. Their MSRP plus some scammy $$$$ extra charge is not really the issue, you know you are getting Sc#%@ed no matter what, they know it, we all know it.
    But here's the thing, VW is determined to go head to head with the Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, and Hyundai Sonota sized cars and the current Jetta is statistically not up to the job.

    Internally known as NCS – or New Compact Sedan – this updated Jetta will be built on a re-engineered fifth-generation Jetta platform. The new model has also been referred to as the Jetta VI.
    Could also be an AWD option to help elbow it's way into the new 2011 line up.

    The 2010 Jetta is mostly Hyundai Elantra sized (just higher in price with less warranty) so VW is bringing out the bigger version of the Jetta TDI this fall to mercifully put it into the new Jettacord, Jettason, Jettacam size.

    Not a bad idea either, our 2006 sits right next to our 2007 Nissan Versa in the garage, and the wheel base is the same and most other specs are too. I would love to have a little more room in the Jetta, especially the very cramped leg room in the back, and a couple more inches in width.
    If you buy the 2010 you will miss out on what could be a very improved 2011 Jetta and from what the rumor mill is saying, at about the same price. The TDI engine will probably be the most sold, and I read that the gas VW 5 banger for the Jetta might be Kapoot in the future. (never had great MPG's)

    They should have any glitches in the current 2 ltr TDI pretty much figured out in the 2011 as well, so no fear of "first of the new model" suprises.
    So give it 4 or 5 months and don't pick up the big bill for a small car.
  • Where do I find the "Inventory List on Edmund's"?

    Thanks
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,043
    Go to new cars and pick your make and model. Close to the top is a "Inventory" link. It will let you see all the cars available to your local dealers. Or what ever Zip code you put in.
  • I bought 2010 Jetta TDI model with auto transmission, Sun roof, 17'' Avignon alloy wheels, Rubber mat kit and Ipod interface.

    MSRP is $26,554 (+destination charge), and I paid $740 under MSRP. After tax & fee, it was $28,700.. and I bought 6yr 100k mile extended warranty at $2000.

    This is my first VW... I am happy with my Jetta :)
  • hokie28hokie28 Posts: 16
    Are there any dealerships selling this? I can't seem to find any in the Washington D.C. area.
  • ncskibumncskibum Posts: 42
    edited May 2010
    That's one of the better prices I've seen paid for the TDI. Would you mind telling me who the dealer was?
    Thanks


    Carolina VW on Independence Blvd in Charlotte
  • belaircarguybelaircarguy Posts: 107
    I currently own and drive a 2009 Jetta 2.5 gas engine automatic. Years ago I owned a VW Diesel Rabbit. While the diesel certainly got much better mileage (about 40 mpg), the engine did require some cleaning of the injector nozzles and other items that a gas engine did not need. Additionally, while the VW diesel engine was very good, unfortunately VW did not beef up the rest of the car to match the engine. I drove that about 145,000 miles, and the engine was still strong but the rest of the car was shot.

    Look at a Mercedes diesel and check the build quality of that vs the Mercedes gas cars. Diesel has heavier components, as they want both the car and the engine to last a long time.

    Prior to purchasing my 2009 Jetta, I did drive both the gas and diesel. I did not see a huge difference in build quality. It will remain to be seen if the car will last as long as the engine.

    Bel Air Car Guy
  • jlouis99jlouis99 Posts: 2
    Greetings.

    Looking for information on the money factor for a 2010 Golf TDI DSG 4 door. It's for 3 years, 36,000 miles.

    Just need to know if I can negotiate lower.

    Thanks!
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,341
    The money factor is fixed and so is the residual. You can negotiate off the msrp.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,341
    Can't find much on the golf diesel. If you are leasing, the extra cost of the diesel won't pay off for the 3 year term. They are usually poor leases. they can be good buys if you drive a lot of miles and keep it for 100k. Check mattie imports web site for sample payments on golfs. You can call I suppose to get more details. If you live in the northeast they say they deliver free. I would go with a gas model when leasing.
  • vigorlovervigorlover Posts: 40
    Do you have an idea when we might expect the 2011 Jetta TDI to arrive? We are looking at the 2010 right now and want to know how long we might wait for the new one.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,341
    edited May 2010
    Word is that when the new jetta starts to show up, the tdi version won't be in the mix until even later. If you like the tdi, I can't see any reason to wait for the new one. Could be a while and they will likely be loaded with market adjustment dealer bumps. To check prices check mattie imports site. Another consideration is that you are better off with the last year version with the gremlins minimized than the brand new remake.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,788
    jlouis99...

    I moved your lease question post here:

    Volkswagen Golf Lease Questions



    regards,
    kyfdx

    MODERATOR
    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • bigdog20bigdog20 Posts: 3
    What price can I expect to pay for a 2010 Jetta DSG TDI with no options? I looked up the invoice price at $23,219 including the $750 destination charge.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,341
    If you can get 500 off msrp on a tdi you are doing well. You can do much better on a gas model. It will take many years to break even on fuel costs according to most cost comparisons.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,043
    Then you are stuck driving the gas version. Unless you get the turbo charged model. Then you have to buy Premium gas. I would never buy a gas VW. About 80% of buyers agree.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,341
    The new 2.0 turbos use regular gas.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,013
    I would never buy a gas VW. About 80% of buyers agree

    Is that just a personal opinion or is that the actual sales breakdown?
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,934
    According to the Elias TDI Bureau, 80% of VW buyers wish they could get a TDI but many of those folks have to settle for the gas VW.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,788
    LOL...

    At least these are scientific findings... :surprise:

    MODERATOR
    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • jswtdifanjswtdifan Posts: 9
    Actually, about 85% of JSW's sold are TDI - see this link:

    http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/blog/cars-money/cars-with-the-most-mpg-- for-your-money/532/

    I am often amused by comparisons of the TDI to gas versions and the statements of how it would take long to recoup the diesel premium. This is nonsense. The TDI is it's own trim level with several added features compared to the base JSW. Also, it is an APPLES and ORANGES comparison. Have you ever driven a diesel with 236 ftlbs of torque? Will a gasser last 400K miles or more?

    We have the 2010 JSW TDI with manual transmission and pano roof. It's a great car. I never even considered the gas version and would not buy it. The TDI engine was a big part of our purchase decision.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,013
    I was actually curious if the sales of VWs offering the TDI approaches anywhere near 80% of total sales of those models. I'm sure it isn't quite that high but wonder if anyone has a handle on the actual numbers?
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,013
    No offense but I'm not that interested in specifically the JSW. I was looking for more general info in regards to total Jetta, Golf, etc models that offer the TDI and what percentage TDI make up of all those sales. I heard or read somewhere awhile back that it was around 50/50 but not sure.
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,934
    i recall reading that there is a 65/35 or 60/40 gas/diesel split for USA deliveries of Jetta...
    (The number is most definitely known/published/available on Freds and probably the vortex too.)
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,013
    Thanks. I assume that would be a lot closer to 50/50 in Europe then or even reversed, 40/60.
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