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  • flugelflugel Posts: 34
    What dealer will give me $11,000 off as I am ready to buy a 911 coupe S with tiptronic?

    I am in the Washington, D.C. area. The dealer said maybe $5,000 plus his dealer preparation fee plus TT & L.

    The dealer says he won't be getting anymore until 2007's come in and they will probably have price increase. also, he says that he only has one tiptronic and doesn't want to get rid of it for a big discount etc.

    Advice?

    Thanks,

    Steve
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,633
    The Porsche 912 is probably best sold through your local craigslist.com, or better yet Hemmings Motor News (hemmings.com).

    The 928 Porsche El Camino (I think I know this car--is it yellow?) is definitely an Ebay item.
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,633
    A 928 GTS is a fabulous car, but you must have it thoroughly checked over by a 928 specialist. These cars can be prohibitively expensive to repair and most Porsche shops do not work on them, or know nothing about them.

    Your primary concerns are: a) when was timing belt done last -- if it's due, plan to spend $1,600---$2,000 because you should also do the water pump and b) the clutch if it is a 5-speed. Also a very expensive item.

    You need to buy these cars in tip top condition. I think the GTS is the very best of the 928s but you must be prepared to spend a reasonable sum per month on maintenance. If the car is well kept and serviced regularly, it should prove reliable. If it is neglected, it will eat you for breakfast.

    By all means, have the car gone through stem to stern before you buy it. If you do buy it, line up some good aftermarket parts suppliers (google for 928 parts) so that you don't have to rely on the Porsche dealers----they don't even know what a 928 is.
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,633
    You must have either a knock sensor problem or the engine is overheating. You had better correct this ASAP or you are going to melt that motor eventually. Heavy pinging is very dangerous to the well-being of the engine.

    This is, by the way, an ususual symptom for a Boxster.
  • Hi..
    I have a 2003 911 Coupe. I bought it used a couple years ago. A few months after I bought it, I went on vacation and the car sat for two weeks. When I returned, the battery was drained and dead. I could not even charge the battery so I replaced the battery with a new one. I just got back from vacation again and was gone again for two weeks...the battery was once again drained. Should I worry or is this normal?
  • kyingkying Posts: 61
    I don't think it's normal. We have a 2004 Targa and a 2006 C4; we came back from a 2-week vacation last week, and both cars started up like they were just driven a minute ago. (Of course, we had to do the start the engine in 8 seconds or the alarm will go crazy drill.)

    I would have your car checked.
  • Hey there,
    I have recently traded an ultralight airplane for a 74-911, and a 81-928. I don't know a thing about porsches, but i thought it would be cool to learn abou them.

    My first problem (and hopefully the last). On my 928, when i start the car, it will start, then the RPM's decrease until it dies (usually in the course of 3-4 seconds) after doing this a few times, it will finely run, but rough. The idle is really low. after about 1 min of rough idleing, it will idle perfectly. Then when i go to rev it up, it will bog down. If i slowly get into it, it will rev up to about 3000 rpm, then start to spudder. The exhaust smells really rich. I replaced the fuel accumulator (because it leakes) and i replaced the spark plugs (because it was cheap to do). I ran injector cleaner through the system, and it seemed to help, but not that much at all. I didn't know whether to replace the oxygen censor (which i couldn't find on the car) or really where to start. I guess i need some guidence. Thanks
    :sick:
  • First of all start with a compression test on the 928 and see what you're working with. If the compression is not good, then just get rid of the car and put your efforts into the 911. If the compression is okay, if I were you I'd hook up with some of the 928 specialists on the Internet and get some advice there, and also some manuals for the car.

    Here's some leads:

    http://www.928intl.com/

    http://www.928gt.com/

    Not too many Porsche shops work on the 928, so your 911 mechanic may not know anything about them (even if he thinks he does), and he may not care to work on them.

    Main weak points on the early 928s are timing belt, clutches and water pumps. You might disconnect the catalytic converter for a test and see how it runs. it's an easy disconnect on that car and a shop could put in a test pipe. I ran mine for a long time like that in fact.
  • Buyers Beware at Stevenson Imports in Littleton, Colorado.
    I was purchasing a 98 porsche 911 from them. Agreed to a price and made the price subject to a prepurchase inspection. The deal was done and I wasted an entire evening searching for the mechanic to do the inspection. Called back the next morning to schedule the inspection and they told me they sold the car even though they had made a verbal contract with me. They are not to be trusted. In calling the owner of the dealership, they pretty much told me I was out of luck. Stay away if you know what is good for you.
  • Am looking for as much info on 1982 911/930 turbo production. Realize the embargo on this car was from 1980-1986 to the US. Would like to know how many of them were produced, and the pros and cons of this particular model yr. Any info on it would be appreciated...
    Stormyraine thanking you in advance.
  • They made 10,004 930s total from 1978-1985. Of those, 2,918 are US legal cars.

    These are fast cars, a bit crude to drive, but wayyyy fun. You have to be careful, as the turbo boost comes on RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE, so if you punch it with the car unsettled, you are definitely going into the weeds. The joke was that these cars got rid of more drug dealers than the cops did.

    The US legal cars are probably worth more but demand is high right now. Mostly you have to watch out for cars that have been flogged or butchered by meatheads who don't know how to work on them.

    This is not a comfort car, it's a wild ride and you have to be brave to drive it at the limits. It's still seriously fast by modern standards.

    Modern Porsche turbos are far more tractable and easy to drive.
  • Thank you...........I Have a European '82 930 model. Is a whole lot o fun to drive, and you are right. Turbo will sit your seat right into the frame when punched. Seriously, it takes your breath away. Took it on a drive to SC and was a blast to drive thru the mountains...Searched for this car for many years. I have a great mechanic who grew up with Porsche and does all my maint. work. He knows his field well. We just found an origanl factory manual for it(WHEW!! that was a tough one to find!) Will be holding onto her for a very long time. Offers have been made for it, but am enjoying the car way too much to sell. Had to learn to read km to translate to mph. A retired airforce general gave me an easy conversion. (PS....He wants it bad).......(PSS...It fits me perfect,and I am having FUN!!) Thank you for the info. I wonder just how many were produced in 1982 alone?
  • Don't know that. probably you'll have to ask the factory.

    Yep they are a ferocious car. Now don't get too frisky!

    Some people prefer the later models with the 5-speed (you have a 4-speed) but given all that power, it hardly matters.

    Aside from the turbo lag, you have to be careful on this car not to lift off in a hard fast turn...but you know that.
  • Thanks...I will do that.

    Yepp..it is a 4-speed with power,and one that would be very unforgiving of a fool. You guessed right! I was frisky, and enjoyed the moments on a straight-away highway. Got the moment over with and have learned to be more respectful. My mechanic tends to care a great deal about me, ripped me a new B-hind. He probably saved me from myself, and stupidity. A lesson well learned.
    Thanks again.
  • Nowadays computers protect Porsche drivers from these elementary mistakes but back then you learned the hard way.

    I find the early 930s a tad intimidating. My rule is to do nothing entirely radical with either the gas pedal or the brakes unless the car is in a straight line.
  • dhg1dhg1 Posts: 1
    what does the A2/4 designation stand for
  • Hi there.

    I am in the market for a used 911 in the $35K range.

    Since I was a kid I always wanted one and now I have finally saved up enough cash to take leap but I do not know much about the various models and the pros and cons of each.

    I want one that I can drive on weekends and that will give me the least amount of mechanical problems.

    Can you please recommends which models I should focus on and the best places to look online for them?

    Thanks,
    D
  • I think a Porsche 993 (last of the air-cooled cars) from 1993 to 1997 (or early 1998), non-turbo, no AWD, no tiptronic, would be ideal. These are rugged dependable cars. Stay away from 90-92 C2s.

    Of course, you will have to shop for the cleanest, lowest mileage car you can find, with excellent service records. Any car you find that is a "mystery" as to who owned it, how it was serviced, where it came from....just walk away. Pay a premium price for a premium car and ask to see all service records, or talk to the shop that serviced it.

    Don't expect these cars to maintain their value however. They will decrease in value slowly just like any other used car, at least for the foreseeable future.

    You can drive any modern Porsche daily, just like a Corolla if you wish, and they will run a long, long time. Just bring 'er in, in the Spring and Fall and have the car thoroughly serviced.
  • 993c4s993c4s Posts: 1
    "Don't expect these cars to maintain their value however. They will decrease in value slowly just like any other used car, at least for the foreseeable future. "

    Not sure I agree with this statement. I think 993s are at or very close to their bottom. They are very quickly becoming valued as "collector" cars and certain models within the 993 model range are quickly increasing in value (Twin Turbos, Turbo S, C2S and C4S for example).

    Now, with that said, no car should ever be bought as an investment (at least not in the price ranges we're discussing here).

    In real-estate it is location, location, location. With a used Porsche it's service history, service history, service history. I would rather a high mile care with an unblemished service history, then a low mile vehichle with a spotty past.
  • RE: 993s: What I meant was (more accurately) is that they are still behaving like used cars---that is, the newer years are worth more than the older years. That's the opposite of how a collectible car usually prices out. But you may be right, they might be close to bottom. It seems to take about 15 years for a Porsche to bottom out, then it starts to come up again. But not the 90--91s. The word is out on those.
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