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Subaru B9 Tribeca (B9X)

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  • junior5junior5 Posts: 15
    Like probably most of us here I have been looking for a vehicle with a proven all wheel drive system , SUV driving height, all available safety features and the cargo capacity and utility to provide for a nuclear family of 2+2 (face it who wants to bring along their in-laws or whiny kid's friends while driving - I never fancied myself as a bus driver.) My search is more personal after having a "near death" experience when I was nearly rammed at the driver's side while driving a camry that had no head curtain or side impact airbags-- hence the need to replace said camry soon..

    Let's face it, we want the subies because of the overall driving package. These subies are never known for their styling, snob appeal, or luxury amenities but instead are known for excellent handling dynamics, durability and all the safety features that your money could afford. Subaru earned my respect from the start when they did not make any practical safety feature "optional" like other manufacturers.

    The Tribeca, in my opinion, does not stray too far from these core subie 'values' even though it is stretching the limits of the value spectrum. Those who want the cargo or seating capacity of a minivan will never find it in this vehicle -- that is already a given and you guys must move on. There are however those among us ( me included) that are hoping that the handling and driving experience of this vehicle will offset the lack of a 90 cubic foot cargo capacity and the absence of a comfortable third row seat. Again, if you need to haul cargo regularly or really need 7 seater capacity - move on to a minivan. There will simply have to be a compromise which is what I have accepted having driven my wife's 03 Forester for the past 2 years. Yes, it has poor second row seating space and may be noisy at highway speeds. But it still has adequate cargo space for the occasional visits to IKEA, provides excellent visibility and on road illumination at night, has five star crash test ratings and is yes, even fun to drive.

    Hence looking at the Tribeca at this point, there will indeed be some compromise but if you really want the handling and stability that subaru always seems to provide, together with no compromises on safety features, useful cargo capacity that does not make a vehicle too bulky or top heavy, with the reliability and quality of a subaru then I think the Tribeca fits the bill.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I wonder how often people really use them. I have two friends that have them and neither one has ever used it, even though they tout it as an advantage.

    One of them has an Avaiator, he even removed the 3rd row seat because it gets him more cargo space some how. So it's taking up space in his garage.

    The other got a Highlander just recently and hasn't used it yet. Funny thing is she has just one kid!

    I think often buyers fantasize about everybody wanting to ride with them, but I wonder how often that will really be.

    For occasional use, I'd pick the fun-to-drove and handling and sacrifice the space, no doubt about it. If I end up never using it, that made the choice even better than a mininvan or a bigger SUV.

    -juice
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,013
    One of them has an Avaiator, he even removed the 3rd row seat because it gets him more cargo space some how. So it's taking up space in his garage.

    I knew I'd be driving my '99 minivan forever so I threw away my middle row seats when the van was five months old. So it's a 5 seater and I haven't missed the extra seats yet (the 3rd row slides up and usually lives mid-ship).

    But there aren't any kids in our equation.

    As far as aftermarket DVDs, you can get kits that tie them down in various ways. Best not to have loose stuff in the cabin that'll become a flying projectile in a panic stop.

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  • kmartinkmartin Posts: 427
    Does anyone have a picture of the under-cargo area storage on both the 5-pass and the 7-pass? I have read many comments that the storage on the 5-pass (in lieu of 3rd row) is cramped. I'd love to see both side-by-side and compare.

    -Karen in AZ- :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Steve - you should remove all rows and have the world's roomiest 2 seater. :o)

    Someone in the Sedona thread paid $15.8k for their van. Buy a 5 seat cloth Tribeca and that van instead of an ML350 and call it good. LOL

    Karen - I have half of what you want. The 7 seater's.

    -juice
  • kmartinkmartin Posts: 427
    Thx, Juice!!!
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,013
    remove all rows

    I've done that a few times too, but like removing the back seat bottom in my Outback, it takes wrenches for that last row.

    Here's a UK review from Auto Express.

    "This is not an SUV that lumbers from corner to corner with huge amounts of body roll and lifeless steering. Instead, the chassis remains composed, and it is closer in feel to an X5 than an XC90. The traditional Subaru driving spirit definitely shines through."

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  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    if you have less than 5 people at home, you are less likely to use.

    if you have more than 5 people at home like mine, i will use them often. so, there is no guessing of how many times will i use.
  • bman33bman33 Posts: 59
    +1 for junior5's comments.

    We ordered a 5 seater Ltd. Anyone comparing the Tribeca to a minivan is misguided. A stretch version of the Tribeca? How about the Subaru Excursion? LOL.

    I should mention that we would not have bought a Subaru if not for the Tribeca. We looked at the Outback and it did not measure up in terms of interior quality or exterior style. We test drove an Outback w/ the H6 motor and I liked the handling, acceleration, etc. Subaru's are definitely driver's cars.

    I think the Tribeca is an excellent value. In my book, the price is what pushed it ahead of the Infiniti, Lexus, Volvo and Acura. Use Edmunds comparison tool and see for yourself.
  • tytnsfan1tytnsfan1 Posts: 44
    I agree with you wholeheartedly!!! Some people like comparing apples to oranges. Then they know they made the right choice. If you need a minivan or Excursion, buy a minivan or Excursion already!!!! Like someone else mentioned though the Freestyle should have pretty much room as it is 10 inches longer than either an Explorer or the Tribeca. I know, I know, oogh a Ford, yuck. My 97 Explorer has over 104,000 miles and only maintenance type repairs done so far. My husband has an 99 F250 diesel with probably in the neighborhood of 200,000 miles and same thing only maintenance stuff. Of course for a diesel that is only half the life expectancy hopefully! ;)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You need a van, then. Don't deny it. ;-)

    A Pilot comes close but it's still cumbersome to flip and fold that 2nd row all the time.

    I like the Mazda MPV because you can slide the seat out of the way even while there is a child in that seat. No other van can do that, you have to tilt or remove the seats completely.

    Consider an MPV. They offer AWD in Japan but sadly not here. :(

    -juice
  • greyhoundgreyhound Posts: 10
    People - if you want to carry mom, dad, kids in car seats, mothers-in-law, kitchen sinks, tow a boat, etc., etc. a vehicle the size of a B9 ain't gonna make it. In this bounteous automotive marketplace we are experiencing, you can choose from the Suburban, Excursion, Durango, Armada, Land Cruiser and so on if that's what you need or want. A little dinky manufacturer like Subaru has to marshall its resources and pick where it wants to compete. In its "infinite wisdom," Subaru made the decision to target the B9 at near-lux sports crossovers like the X5, RX330, FX-35 instead of family workhorses like the Pilot or behemoths like the Suburban. I for one think they picked the right size. Think about it...the performance and handling of a BMW X5 with the quality and cost of a Subaru. Sounds good to me.
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    yeah,. i have an MPV now. the ride is tooooooooooo stiff. i don;t like 2 seater 2nd row. tribeca is better on this.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    subie, put those 16" wheels on your MPV.

    World of difference.

    John
  • x5killerx5killer Posts: 368
    All this talk of the 3rd row seat being short on leg room. I dont really need and prefer to have the cargo space and the agile ride of the Tribeca. Shame they don't offer NAV with the 5 passenger limited with leather so I am forced to get the 7 passenger I dont need just for NAV.

    I figured it couldn't hurt to have it but now i'm worried even folded down it will just take up room i could use for cargo.

    Also my preorder is delayed because they didn't find out about the puddle light option until mine was already on its way and I definately wanted that cool albeit it mostly cosmetic option.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,744
    Keep in mind that the 3rd row is a selling feature at trade in time. Terry over at RWTIV always asks if there is a 3rd row.

    You may not use it, but people want it, just in case.
  • bigelmbigelm Posts: 995
    Did I miss that? Is that by the inside door panel or side mirror?
  • capreciaccapreciac Posts: 12
    I was told by a dealer that the B9 was crash tested, but the results were not in yet. Does anybody know who did the testing and when the results may be out?
  • eric102eric102 Posts: 122
    My F250 diesel is probably more typical of Ford quality than your husbands. 2 sets of head gaskets, a number of oil leaks on the engine and transmission, one fuel injector pump and three alternators in 190,000 miles. Plus the paint started peeling off at 4 years, quality is not job #1 at Ford. No Freestyles for me, the B9 looks pretty good.
  • subienewbie2subienewbie2 Posts: 458
    The puddle lights are mounted on the rocker panels below each of the 4 doors.

    They emit a blue flourescent type of light - probably from LEDs. They are not overly bright but will illuminate the ground by each door when opened.
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