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Subaru B9 Tribeca (B9X)

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  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Yeah, I'd like to see a pic of the bumper guard. My OB XT came with one, and it looks really good (especially with gold paint). I would not have ordered on on my own, and it certainly doesn't offer much in the way of protection, but it looks good.

    For the hood -- I have had the bug deflectors for my last two Outbacks, but for the new one, I installed rockblocker paint protection film. It won't take heavy abuse, but I like the invisible look and so far, no chips!

    Craig
  • dbjonesdbjones Posts: 5
    Word! That was very well said, and speaks truth on every line.

    Great stuff!
  • kmartinkmartin Posts: 427
    Just measured mine....about 26.75" distance/space between them. Doesn't seem like a lot, but with the moonroof, it's probably all they could muster. I'm sure I'll make use of it someday...they do, after all, know my name in my local Home Depot :-)

    -Karen in AZ-
  • kmartinkmartin Posts: 427
    I absolutely agree with the points here regarding enough passing power. I just drove a 3000-mile round trip in all kinds of highways conditions. I even had enough power to pass (several) RV's and trucks going uphill on mountain roads, even with the AC on...no scary moments, but I used the Sport Shift on occasion, just to be certain.

    The Info Screen buttons on the console are pretty handy, and the reach is not as far as the touch screen itself. I found myself using the buttons more in order to keep my hands near the wheel.

    I found the gauges and dash in general to be very easy to locate and figure out the first time I drove the car. And the aluminum trim IS very cool, in my opinion.

    Maybe Karl was driving some other model??? To each, his own...

    -Karen in AZ-
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Thanks for the measurement Karen. That is a really narrow spacing. I have a 40" spacing on my Outback crossbars, and that's about as low as I would want to go for canoes/kayaks and lumber. I really wish Subaru had done a better job with the rack system on the Tribeca -- it is similar to the rack on the MDX and a few other "glamour" SUVs -- sort of a weak gesture at a rack, but not really functional or safe for typical homeowner or outdoor/sports loads. You really can't transport any long items on a 27" spacing!

    I am sure Yakima and Thule will come up with rack options for the Tribeca, using clips that hook under the door openings (which will result in a slightly wider crossbar spacing, but not by much). These systems work OK, but I really prefer setups like the Outback where you get a sturdy siderail running the length of the roof -- to me, that is one benefit of having a long wagon or SUV roof.

    As much as I use racks, the narrow spacing and the 4" higher roof are two big factors that would steer me away from a Tribeca and into an Outback. Otherwise, I would seriously be considering a Tribeca.

    Craig
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Posts: 648
    I only played with the NAV on the Subaru but I currently have the Pacifica with NAV and previously had a Acura TL with NAV. in order of ease of use and layout I would say Acura NAV then Pacifica then Subaru.

    Subaru should have the option to give you a list of a catagory by distance even if your not zoomed in close. just give me the list dang-it. plus the menu layout is a bit clunky and non-intuative.

    The Pacifica was still not as easy as the Acura. I had the older Acura NAV system. The new Acura's have their NAV linked into their bluetooth handsfree. that means, click nearest hotel.. find hotel you want, click call. and it dials your phone automatically... so you can find if there is vacancy before getting off the turnpike, ect.
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    After 1100 miles and a couple of weeks, our 5 Passenger B9 Limited is getting 18.5-19 MPG around town and always above 23 on the highway. Drive it easy and the mileage is really okay. Playing with sport and manual mode drinks gas. During the past 5 days we don't seem to be using more gas than out 1999 Outback did. I think we pushed the underpowered Outback more and probably got less economy out of it. The B9 really does have power for easy city driving.
    As I reported earlier, I drove the B9 FAST in manual mode, up to 120 MPH going to PA and barely got 20 MPG. On the way back I took it easy and things improved by 5MPG. It may get even better in the winter with the AC off. 7 passenger loaded models may be a bit worse off and if you have 4 people on board that's going to effect things as well.

    Robert B
    NY
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    Drive your B9 on the highway at around 70 MPH and lower one or both of the back windows. The buffeting effect is awful, almost a pounding to the chassis. You simply can't drive at speed with the rear windows down.
    It's not a fatal flaw, but still surprised me!

    Robert B
    NY
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,729
    Not that uncommon.... I drove a Corolla wagon prior to my OBW, and if you lowered a rear window before opening a front one, it would pound the occupants to death (lost a number of good friends that way....). Similar problems are being reported with the new Honda Odyssey (sliding doors now have retracting windows).

    Steve
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    My recent experience with the Tribeca NAV unit has pointed out just how important "ease of use" is. IIFC the Tribeca's NAV user manual is around 50 pages or so. I'm just guessing at the number of pages, but the point I'm making is just picking up that manual and thumbing through it is a daunting experience to a NAV newbie.

    I noticed that there are a number of ways of inputting data. Why? Why not just offer one way to do so, and make it the easiest and most logical way to do so? All this high-tech complexity is really nothing but counterproductive.

    I'm now curious as to how easy other NAV units operate. I've heard some good things about the unit in the Acura MDX. That unit, if you should venture off a paved road onto some dirt path reportedly shows "crumbs" on the screen so that you can find your way back. In addition to voice guidance it has voice activation.

    Bob
  • subienewbie2subienewbie2 Posts: 458
    I just curious about 2 things:

    The 23 mpg on the highway, what is the average speed you were driving at. I usually average about 75mph and get a bit over 21 MPG on flat roads.

    Why would you want to drive at 70 MPH with the rear windows down. They are so big it is not surprising about the buffetting. Also, if you drove any distance like that it would probably cost 2 or 3 MPG because of the drag you are creating.
  • jandj94jandj94 Posts: 17
    I'm interested in remote start for my Tribeca. My dealer said they can do it for $500. Not sure if it is genuine Subaru or aftermarket. Not sure if it's an add-on module or a programming 'toggle' on the existing security/keyless entry feature.
  • newtosubienewtosubie Posts: 39
    "Plus by now everyone knows its a subaru from the ads, but I ended up covering some of the letters up to spell a nickname I have so its still the mystery car on the road and i've only seen one other which was parked up at State College."

    Ok, I give up. Su? Sub? bru? bar?
    I saw a Passat changed to a##, and of course there's the Toyotas that become "yo".
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    I'm interested in remote start for my Tribeca. My dealer said they can do it for $500. Not sure if it is genuine Subaru or aftermarket. Not sure if it's an add-on module or a programming 'toggle' on the existing security/keyless entry feature. >>

    That price is an insult. My dealer offered me a pretty complex additional alarm system for 500 bucks. I didn't want it and got just the remote start for 175.00 installed. It works great, though they needed to reprogram my master remotes after forgetting to put in the trunk hatch release function.
    500 is WAY TOO MUCH.

    Robert B
    NY
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    i got a Valet brand remote start for my OB XT from the dealer. this doesn;t void warranty & is approved by subaru. works fantastically.

    costs 400, i got it for 250 at the time of buying the car
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    Has anyone taken the B9 off road yet? I'm talking like dirt trails, nothing major. If anyone did, how did it handle? I am asking because my wife's friend is getting rid of his Yukon soon. He originally was planning on the Forester, but he feels he needs something with a bigger carrying capacity. I'm thinking the B9 might do the trick, or an OB.

    On a related note, I see that Subaru offers both front and rear bumper covers. What about a skid plate and rear differential protector? I have both on my Outback Wagon, and they come in handy driving around NYC:-).

    Mark
  • x5killerx5killer Posts: 368
    "Any chance of a photo of the front end with the new additions??"

    I was thinking of posting one but then realized you can just look at the Subaru.com site, build a B9 and then click on the hood protector and front bumper underguard in options to see a picture, if thats the additions you are talking about. Thats pretty much what they look like. Of course its close up and look diff on diff colors and from diff angles etc.

    Main thing I would say of note on the front bumper underguard is that its more then just what looks like a silver strip in the picture as it covers more area including the center column of the front bumper under part and wraps under as well.. Seems to be protective on what is a low bumper and adds a cool look with the silver. I am pretty picky and am happy wiht the look of both of these options as well as the other ones i mentioned.

    But speaking of the front bumper. It still bugs me a little how much the hood slopes down and how low the front bumper is to the ground for an SUV. In looking at for example the Lexus RX and a Porsche Cayenne yesterday I noticed how high up their front bumpers are off the ground. I was worried that not only does the B9 have less ground clearance but that the low front bumper makes it look more like a car.

    As well, other suv's including the Murano seem to sit some space above their tires giving it more height. I know its nice how the wheels fill the wheel wells and most ppl i have talk to that know cars say you want that and I do agree i don't like the look of say the Pilot and MDX that sit well above their tires that look small in the huge wheel well but I'm just worried the B9 will be mistaken for a Toyota Matrix or Pontiac Vibe type vehicle.

    I'm pretty much over both of these issues though as I realize that the sloping hood and low front bumper liken the B9 to the FX as one of the most sporty SUV's and though the body doesn't sit above its wheels on shocks, that the wheels filing the wheel wells is a sign of quality, looks better, and the vehicle still seems to sit just as high as the vehicles it competes against (Murano, Highlander etc.) in fact the view from the back seat seems higher so i was wondering if the Tribeca is supposed to have "stadium seating" like hte Xterra had/has?
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,927
    It's not a fatal flaw, but still surprised me!

    The surprise these days would be finding a car that didn't have the buffeting:

    tidester, "Volvo XC90 SUV" #930, 4 Jan 2003 1:19 am

    Steve, Host
  • foxbat121foxbat121 Posts: 211
    I was worried that not only does the B9 have less ground clearance but that the low front bumper makes it look more like a car.


    MDX/Pilot: 8"
    X5: 7.1"
    XC-90: 8.9"
    Murano: 7"
    RX330" 7.48"

    Tribeca: 8.4"

    As you can see, Tribeca has the second highest ground clearence.

    Now the front end and rear end bumper hight issue. This is usually called approch angle (front) and departure angle (rear). RX330 is a good example of high approch and departure angle. Subaru traditionally sucks in the area. However, both approch and departure angle are only useful when you want to do serious off-roading (like climbing steep slops). On normal pavement driving this is not important.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    Angle of approach and departure do come into play if you drive on the beach too, especially at some entry/exit points.

    Bob
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