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Subaru B9 Tribeca (B9X)



  • But I don't think Saab should be making cars that cheap, literally.

    Isn't the 9-7 already based on a cheaper GM model that is inferior to Saab vehicles. I understand that the engine is a GM not Saab.

    If that is true I feel sorry for those who shelled out big bucks thinking they are getting a real Saab only to find out that it is a GMC in drag.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, if Acura's numbers went down, and others didn't (some even went up), at a minimum Acura knew how to make it's numbers look good.

    I seriously doubt it was unintentional. Both engines in the Accord actually went up, though Honda claims it's new tuning and throttle-by-wire that explains the change.

    Perhaps they lowered Honda numbers and raised Acura numbers to differentiate the two brands, even?

    Though Ford's done worse, the Mustang went from 225 hp to 205hp. Some Cobras had to be recalled, even. Mazda has also had trouble before with the Miata in '00 and the RX-8 more recently.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The 9-7x sort of replace the Oldsmobile version of the Blazer in my mind.

  • photoguy2photoguy2 Posts: 164
    I've got 5,000 miles on mine. Just went on a road trip yesterday. 23.6 MPG over a 70 stretch of highway from PA to MD. 65-70 MPH. As I then went into the city I was making sales calls to and then came home the end result of a 300 mile day was 21.6 MPG. Overall since purchase I'm averaging 19.8 MPG. Granted about 3000 of the 5000 are highway miles...
  • photoguy2photoguy2 Posts: 164
    I sat in one for about 10 seconds and was so embarrased I had to get out. I've owned 3 Saab's and loved them. The 9-7 is an embarrasment.
  • foxbat121foxbat121 Posts: 211
    GM basically destory the SAAB brand. Instead of investing R&D for new SAABs, GM went with rebagging road. From what I saw in a Saabaru 9-2x, all GM wanted to do is spend minimum amount of money on rebagging effort. That is no major changes (cost $$$ on production line). Only small changes here and there. Interesting enough the new 06 WRX center console seems to use the same exact components used in 9-2x which is basically a new face plat plus different knobs for AC control.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Believe it or not, that interior rolled out with the 05 WRX, and it was extremely similar to the interior already on the 03+ Forester. So there's even less to the Saab.....
  • foxbat121foxbat121 Posts: 211
    Didn't know that. So basically what GM did is pay for a badge to be sticked on the car and select a few items from STi parts bin :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I bet you'll break the 20mpg barrier soon. Mileage should improve with age.

    Actually, the 2005 WRX got that 9-2x interior. It's just that the Saab came out a little earlier and it took all the credit.

    But look back even further, and the interior really debuted in the 2003 Forester!

    (craig beat me to it)

  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Saab offered option packages that Subaru did not let us have in the US, like moonroof on the wagon, leather seats, etc... Unfortunately, now you can get that stuff on the 06 WRX!

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Though you could get some of that stuff in Canada.

    It was just strange. GM limits what Subaru can do when they sell mere clones.

  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,916
    The 9-7 is an embarrassment.

    What's really embarrassing are the crash test results.

    mistermark, "Saab 9-7X" #272, 26 Jul 2005 1:54 pm

    Steve, Host
  • robotb9robotb9 Posts: 82
    As you might expect, mileage declines rapidly at speeds above 70 MPH. We canna change the laws o' physics. So cruising at 65-70 MPH ought to put you close to the EPA highway estimate of 23 MPG. That checks out with my 22-23 MPG on the NoDak trip at 70-75 MPH, and the 25.6 MPG I got on the engine breakin run to Duluth where I rarely went over 65 MPH. Not too bad considering the size of the vehicle. I think the prominent MPG display on the dash acts as an incentive to drive economically.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That would be embarassing for Kia, never mind Saab.

    robotb9: I felt the same way. The feedback helps you drive more smoothly and economically, if you choose to at least.

  • Tribeca version Saabaru deemed "01G" is a go, as of this very moment. It will launch sometime in '07 as an '08 model. I'm cautiously optimistic that Saab can stay afloat that long. Time will tell.............
  • About in the same boat here. Got my Tribeca on 7/1 and I now have 2700 miles on it. Took a long road trip from Seattle to Klamath Falls, OR. last week. On a portion of Hwy 97 in Oregon, I got 28mpg for 75 miles doing 64mph. Back home in Seattle, mostly heavy traffic and I am averaging about 17-18mpg.
  • b9driverb9driver Posts: 118
    Drove 260 miles to and from NJ today, hit some traffic and drove 80 MPH most of the time with some sprints above 100 MPH. 21.6 MPG.
    I'm very pleased with the economy, which is really pretty good when I drive at more human speeds.
    And of course the drive was about 200 times nicer than in my Outback, or the new Forester. The B9 is a true road car, quietly swallowing the miles.

    Robert B
    Blue B9 5 Pass.
  • I too had the same conundrum and after deciding to buy the MDX realized one more "advantage". For some reason I no longer had tailgaters and other vehicles trying to "intimidate" me out of my lane. My old Forester somehow always elicited that treatment and the Acura nameplate seems to have taken care of that nowadays.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    I think it's in your head. I encounter the same kinds of bozos on the road when driving any of the Subarus, Acuras, or Hondas we have owned. In fact, I doubt the worst offenders even take notice of what other make/model cars are on the road.

  • The worst ones maybe, but I've seen a definite drop in these incidents post MDX and this is a relief for me. It may also be the added heft of the Acura MDX when viewed from behind in addition to the nameplate. I wonder what is the experience of the B9 owners so that I could have a what if? moment.
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