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Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    3 grand, why not? Looks nice, period colors, can't get a lot of car for that money from any era - and that's a lot of car.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Oh it certainly is a lot of car! 233 in and 5000lbs. Being a 77 probably has the 460 too.

    77 is probably the best year for these barge Lincolns. You get the newer style grille with old style dash.

    I have the old car bug bad right now. It needs to stop. The wife doesn't "forbid" it either. I think if I make any moves the S10 needs to go and I need to trade out of the LaCrosse for an SUV for the wife. The SUV would serve as the light hauler the S10 is, plus she really doesn't like the LaCrosse anyway.

    The 04 Grand Marquis has been doing fine as a DD and believe this or not doesn't get that much worse FE than the Buick.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    For 3K, there is probably a lot of pleasure there for the money, for people who are into those behemoths. I have to imagine it will sell relatively fast, even at 10mpg and being the size of an aircraft carrier.

    Yeah, you'd have too many cars - an old car and a daily driver is more than enough unless you have a lot of parking. I am in that position too, and it is annoying - finding dry parking for both cars. My unit has one garage space, and I don't want either car to sleep outside.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Three cars is certainly the limit. That is why when we got the GM (my Grandfather passed away) we sold the 08 Elantra.

    Before I end up in a classic I will need to line up storage. My Aunt has a detached garage with virtually nothing in it and my brother's MIL has a two car garage with nothing but junk in it. I'm sure with a small fee per month she would clean up a little and let me park there. Actually I can't figure why she doesn't park her brand new car in there, but that seems common.

    Under 5k is the number for sure. Like I've said plenty of times I want a decent looking reliable driver. The good thing is the cars I like are relatively cheap.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • michaellmichaell Posts: 4,300
    Actually I can't figure why she doesn't park her brand new car in there, but that seems common.

    In our neighborhood, there aren't any basements in the homes so many people use the garage for their excess stuff and the cars are in the driveway.

    We've always managed to keep two cars in the garage at all time, with the 3rd car parked on the street in front of the house.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,599
    My old condo had a 1-car garage, and there were eight units in my courtyard. Of those eight, only one person used the garage for his daily driver...and ironically, that guy couldn't drive worth a damn! He had a Toyota Solara, and I lost track of how many times he scraped it against the door opening. Once or twice, he hit the neighboring cars, as well. He walked with a severe limp, and I'm convinced he had Tourette syndrome.

    Anyway, of the other seven...
    1 had a pop-up trailer in it
    1 had a Chevy Cavalier in it that the guy was storing
    4 were used for storage
    1 (mine) was used for storage of a non-daily driver. I'd alternate between the Catalina and the DeSoto.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I can understand it a little without having a basement, however, this woman just has too much stuff. The house is fairly large (4BR/3BA) with a full basement and partial attic. No reason IMO to have the garage crapped up. There is probably no real dollars in the garage, but yet the new 30K car is outside. Makes no sense to me.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    For me, 2 cars is all I want. I have toyed with the idea of more, but I can't do it. Too much work. Even getting a motorcycle has me thinking of how much I want to own.

    For the fintail, I rent a garage space from a guy I know, and have parked it there for about 8 years. But - he wants out of the house, and has it listed now. He contacted me about 10 days ago and claimed he had an interested party, but hasn't talked to me since (I bet the inspection turned up surprises, and his asking price is optimistic). Still, I need to find other parking, and it isn't fun - as I pay a low rate, and am comfortable where I am, and it is a general pain around here finding someone willing to rent out a spot, as, like you mention, a lot of people waste garage space with useless junk. Space they could either protect their car with, or maybe even make a profit from. Every time it snows here, I like seeing newer 50K+ cars that show they aren't garaged. I couldn't do that.

    It is nice having cheapish tastes. I almost don't want something too nice anyway - can't enjoy it as much.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,276
    Too much work.

    That's for sure, fin. I collected what I have from a practicality standpoint, but once I have it, I have to maintain it. Then after a decade or so, I get attached to it and then keep it out of a sense of commitment, even though there's really no reason to have it any longer.

    Right now, I maintain five (of my six) vehicles in drivable condition. My plow truck is questionably drivable on a road, but I do maintain it for its purpose (plowing!). They suck time and money, both of which seem to be in diminishing supply every year. :sick:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    " Then after a decade or so, I get attached to it and then keep it out of a sense of commitment, even though there's really no reason to have it any longer. "

    That's pretty much where I am. Attachment over logic. To break the cycle, maybe I should just lease the daily driver, so I can tell myself it isn't mine for good. But then I might try to buy at the end of the lease.

    I also don't like to think what would happen once the cars are sold - my maintenance isn't perfect, but I fear someone would neglect them, especially the old car.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,276
    Bingo. I'm sure that my van would end up in a crusher before too long were I to sell it. There's just too much of my life wrapped up in that sheet metal to say goodbye. I do keep it roadworthy (albeit not pleasing on the eyes like your fintail), though. If I didn't, it would definitely be better to let it go.

    The F250 is only kept because it is immensely useful as a plow. It's so far gone, though, due to rust, that once it retires from that service, it's a goner. The interior is mint, though, so it's not a total loss. All older pickups have a following, so I'm sure the interior could find a good home with very little effort.

    I think the C20 was the best vehicular purchase I've ever made. I paid $500 for it, have put maybe $2,000 into it over the last fifteen years (including tires when I first got it back on the road), and could sell it tomorrow for $5K. I guess if I factor in the depreciation of the dollar, I'm at least breaking even. Another $10K into it and I could have it as it came from the factory.

    Since I have the space, I have no reasonable justification to offload them even if they do get maybe a thousand miles (combined) per year. :blush:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    If I was to sell the fintail, I would like it to go to someone with more money than sense, who would restore it - or someone who has experience caring for a car and doesn't want it as something cool and cheapish for their teenaged daughter (the car isn't particularly valuable, which opens some bad scenarios). Keeping it garaged would be important - I don't think it would have a long life out in the damp. I would be picky about the buyer. When I sold my W126 many years ago, it went to an older man who had owned one before - I felt good about that.

    I justify keeping the fintail by my lack of other expensive vices (I am not a big drinker or gambler etc) - and that it gives me enjoyment. I have also had it since I was a teenager, drove it through college etc, so there is a little sentimental attachment. But if I faced a cross country move or something, there's a chance I might just move on. Sometimes I feel silly keeping a second car when I have no friends or co-workers with the same ball and chain.
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,411
    >> I also don't like to think what would happen once the cars are sold - my maintenance isn't perfect, but I fear someone would neglect them, especially the old car.

    I understand the sentiment, but keep in mind it's OK to neglect a car. It's just a thing. It doesn't have feelings, it won't miss you, and it sure as heck does not have a soul, no matter what "enthusiasts" like to think about their cars.

    You know the old saw: "Never love anything that can't love you back."

    Cheers -Mathias
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,599
    Sometimes I feel silly keeping a second car when I have no friends or co-workers with the same ball and chain.

    Yeah, but some of your friends and co-workers might have balls and chains of a different variety! The ball and chain I divorced back in 1996 cost me more than any one of my cars ever did!

    I justify keeping the fintail by my lack of other expensive vices (I am not a big drinker or gambler etc) - and that it gives me enjoyment.

    I think this is the most important thing. It gives you enjoyment. And that's hard to put a price on.
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 732
    This is very common in my neoghborhood as well and I don't understand it. All are at least 4BR houses, some on a slab some w/basement but I'd bet 60% have not just one but both cars parked outside because the garage is packed.

    I asked a neighbor once, who both he and the wife had less than 2 yr old cars with a total value of ~50k, why not clear the garage and park inside.

    The answer I got was 'you don't have kids, you don't understand'.

    2013 335i Sport Line Alpine White over Coral Red w/Black Trim

    2005 330cic ZHP Monaco Blue over Natural Brown w/Black Trim

  • michaellmichaell Posts: 4,300
    I asked a neighbor once, who both he and the wife had less than 2 yr old cars with a total value of ~50k, why not clear the garage and park inside.

    The answer I got was 'you don't have kids, you don't understand'.


    Seems like most families are just a box or two away from appearing on an episode of "Hoarders".

    When we moved into our house (1600sf, 3bd, 2.5ba, slab), the kids were 14 and 12. We made everything fit and were still able to park our cars (Expedition, New Beetle) in the garage.

    Having a place to keep our cars out of the weather was one of the reasons we bought the house.

    On our block, I know of only a couple of houses where the garage holds two cars - Jeep Grand Cherokee and a Miata in one, Nissan Xterra and Chevy S10 in the other.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,913
    I'd like to know what his kids drive that take up his garage.

    I have 2 boys. The bikes/trikes/scooters hang from hooks on the walls out of the way, and the battery operated jeep sits out on the back patio under a cover. It helps tremendously that I have a very large shed out back, but that has nothing to do with the kids. That holds the lawn furniture, lawn tools, and tractor.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    You mean cars aren't people too? ;)

    When I say neglect, I more mean destroy the effort put into the car by simply keeping it together and roadworthy. The right/wrong person could undo that pretty quickly. It's a shame to see something that survived for 50 years being ruined by an idiot.

    The car might not have a soul, but it has a temper sometimes :shades:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,941
    edited January 2013
    An old friend of mine had 2 old cars, once. Then he got hitched - and has none. But he has 2 mortgages and 2 kids to make up for it. I think I prefer the car :shades:

    Pleasure is often worth more than the price paid, especially if the price is relatively low.

    About the full garages, many people overestimate the value of their flea market at best quality clutter.
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 732
    I think laziness comes into play. Looking into his garage I saw nothing that a weekend afternoon and $100 in shelves/hooks/hangers/crates from Home Depot wouldn't cure.

    2013 335i Sport Line Alpine White over Coral Red w/Black Trim

    2005 330cic ZHP Monaco Blue over Natural Brown w/Black Trim

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