Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

fintail

xwesx said:

I ended up switching over the Crosstrek to the winter tires last night after additional snow yesterday. My wife said that her newish all-season all-terrain tires were "useless" on the snow yesterday, which must have been true since my car didn't even notice that it was slick! So, that's disappointing. Black mark for Continental terrain contact tires!

My son also didn't swap his tires yesterday before he had to go to work, and he said that it was "the sketchiest drive he's ever experienced." So, I didn't have to convince him to swap out his tires while I was working on my wife's car!

So far, the temperature is surprisingly stable just under freezing, but I do expect a few freeze/thaw cycles before October is out. If it stays cold straight into winter, that will be a marked departure from the last fifteen years and harken back to the "old days" when October meant winter!

I like snow, but this would be a little early for me We've been maybe just below 40F at night last weekend, but no colder yet - and now we are in for one of those warm October weekends you probably remember from your youth in eastern OR. When I say the 8th for my winter tires, I mean November 8th. I will probably be ok til then - the Blizzaks were a good investment, and the dealer understands my laziness by offering to switch them over for a nominal fee which includes storage of the unused tires/wheels.

Last year was like that here - straight into winter, we were getting regular sticking snow by November 10th - the leaves hadn't fallen yet, so it was a mess. All winter when I was shoveling I was also dealing with leaves.

andres3

fintail said:

xwesx said:

I ended up switching over the Crosstrek to the winter tires last night after additional snow yesterday. My wife said that her newish all-season all-terrain tires were "useless" on the snow yesterday, which must have been true since my car didn't even notice that it was slick! So, that's disappointing. Black mark for Continental terrain contact tires!

My son also didn't swap his tires yesterday before he had to go to work, and he said that it was "the sketchiest drive he's ever experienced." So, I didn't have to convince him to swap out his tires while I was working on my wife's car!

So far, the temperature is surprisingly stable just under freezing, but I do expect a few freeze/thaw cycles before October is out. If it stays cold straight into winter, that will be a marked departure from the last fifteen years and harken back to the "old days" when October meant winter!

I like snow, but this would be a little early for me We've been maybe just below 40F at night last weekend, but no colder yet - and now we are in for one of those warm October weekends you probably remember from your youth in eastern OR. When I say the 8th for my winter tires, I mean November 8th. I will probably be ok til then - the Blizzaks were a good investment, and the dealer understands my laziness by offering to switch them over for a nominal fee which includes storage of the unused tires/wheels.

Last year was like that here - straight into winter, we were getting regular sticking snow by November 10th - the leaves hadn't fallen yet, so it was a mess. All winter when I was shoveling I was also dealing with leaves.

Heat wave here in San Diego yesterday and today. Using the AC in the car for sure.

fintail

andres3 said:

fintail said:

xwesx said:

I ended up switching over the Crosstrek to the winter tires last night after additional snow yesterday. My wife said that her newish all-season all-terrain tires were "useless" on the snow yesterday, which must have been true since my car didn't even notice that it was slick! So, that's disappointing. Black mark for Continental terrain contact tires!

My son also didn't swap his tires yesterday before he had to go to work, and he said that it was "the sketchiest drive he's ever experienced." So, I didn't have to convince him to swap out his tires while I was working on my wife's car!

So far, the temperature is surprisingly stable just under freezing, but I do expect a few freeze/thaw cycles before October is out. If it stays cold straight into winter, that will be a marked departure from the last fifteen years and harken back to the "old days" when October meant winter!

I like snow, but this would be a little early for me We've been maybe just below 40F at night last weekend, but no colder yet - and now we are in for one of those warm October weekends you probably remember from your youth in eastern OR. When I say the 8th for my winter tires, I mean November 8th. I will probably be ok til then - the Blizzaks were a good investment, and the dealer understands my laziness by offering to switch them over for a nominal fee which includes storage of the unused tires/wheels.

Last year was like that here - straight into winter, we were getting regular sticking snow by November 10th - the leaves hadn't fallen yet, so it was a mess. All winter when I was shoveling I was also dealing with leaves.

Heat wave here in San Diego yesterday and today. Using the AC in the car for sure.

Looks like it might be a heat wave here too, for this time of year - upper 70s over the weekend. If I go anywhere I'll probably use AC, and if I take the fintail out, will complain about it being too warm. Motorcyclists have to be thrilled anyway.

gsemike

xwesx said:

I ended up switching over the Crosstrek to the winter tires last night after additional snow yesterday. My wife said that her newish all-season all-terrain tires were "useless" on the snow yesterday, w

nto winter, that will be a marked departure from the last fifteen years and harken back to the "old days" when October meant winter!

Where are you located that it's snowing already?

stickguy

Alaska!

gsemike

Long Island Marketplace

LeMans is an absolute 20 footer and I think I detect attitude in copy but car could be workable

This Camaro might be decent Not sure what resealed floors are but a lot of work already done here

This Firebird is maybe less a little immediate work Did he say the exhaust pipes are gay??

69 Fury III There are some really interesting cars like this that have spent their entire lives in the outer boroughs. Price is probably high but this Bronx Bomber looks like it's held up pretty well and is untouched

texases

@xwesx is in Fairbanks, according to his info. Early snows up there, when we lived in Anchorage we expected snow on the ground from Halloween through tax day (April 15). Plus/minus, of course.

sda

gsemike said:

Long Island Marketplace

LeMans is an absolute 20 footer and I think I detect attitude in copy but car could be workable

This Camaro might be decent Not sure what resealed floors are but a lot of work already done here

This Firebird is maybe less a little immediate work Did he say the exhaust pipes are gay??

69 Fury III There are some really interesting cars like this that have spent their entire lives in the outer boroughs. Price is probably high but this Bronx Bomber looks like it's held up pretty well and is untouched

It irks me when a car had factory air yet it gets yanked out for what, better performance? Only if you are racing it does the extra weight really matter.

stickguy

More likely is crapped out and they did not want to repair it. Or got lost in an engine swap.

xwesx

Mother nature doubled down today! We had another 3" this morning, and possibly one more on the way before the day is out.

texases

xwesx said:

Mother nature doubled down today! We had another 3" this morning, and possibly one more on the way before the day is out.

Current conditions and forecast - brrrr. We're getting our first 'cold snap' in DFW, 52 degrees tomorrow a.m.

oldfarmer50

gsemike said:

Long Island Marketplace

LeMans is an absolute 20 footer and I think I detect attitude in copy but car could be workable

This Camaro might be decent Not sure what resealed floors are but a lot of work already done here

This Firebird is maybe less a little immediate work Did he say the exhaust pipes are gay??

69 Fury III There are some really interesting cars like this that have spent their entire lives in the outer boroughs. Price is probably high but this Bronx Bomber looks like it's held up pretty well and is untouched

Funny on the LeMans the the price is the same as the mileage.

My father had a 68’ Fury II which I thought was a pretty sharp car.
He also had a 71’ base model Fury which was sparsely equipped.

fintail

gsemike said:

Long Island Marketplace

LeMans is an absolute 20 footer and I think I detect attitude in copy but car could be workable

This Camaro might be decent Not sure what resealed floors are but a lot of work already done here

This Firebird is maybe less a little immediate work Did he say the exhaust pipes are gay??

69 Fury III There are some really interesting cars like this that have spent their entire lives in the outer boroughs. Price is probably high but this Bronx Bomber looks like it's held up pretty well and is untouched

I'd be tempted to get a few throwaway numbers and spam the LeMans guy with something about this not being an auction site.

fintail

xwesx said:

Mother nature doubled down today! We had another 3" this morning, and possibly one more on the way before the day is out.

Mid-upper 70s here this weekend, one last grand gasp of warmth, as in a few weeks there's a good chance we'll be getting near freezing at night anyway.

fintail

This week's dozen:

Longbed

Weird bed

Big blue

Turbo

Rare but hard to get there from here at that price

Keep it dry and it will survive

This has been listed for years, read the room re: pricing

Green machine, one of the few cars that works well on later wheels

Maybe a little dear for condition but maybe a solid car

Fox

Extra digit in price, you choose

Not a great ROI

tjc78

Ok - I want the Panther and the Daytona. Yes I’m weird.

oldfarmer50

I’d take the New Yorker and the Mercury but at half the price. I guess the traditional $1500 car is now a $6000 car.

When I see a 33 year old car with only 4000 miles I shake my head and say what a waste.

stickguy

I love the Daytona. and have a soft spot for the Toyota PU

texases

Corvette-I’d get a 2010 for that price

Lincoln-only for someone try to recreate grandpa’s car.

kyfdx

On the Vette, I think you could find a ZR-1 for that price..

gsemike

Interesting batch. I like the 68 cutlass. I like the unique looknof those. As a big block car that would go for a good deal more in these parts. I'd ex0ect q 25k ask here in NY

gsemike

@stickguy said:
More likely is crapped out and they did not want to repair it. Or got lost in an engine swap.

Yeah, agree. Especially if you're throwing in a used engine of different vintage it may not all swap over.

ab348

Somebody did a junkyard engine swap on that '68 Cutlass since the 455 didn't arrive until 1970 and the Cutlass could only come from the factory with a 350 in '68. It is a roll of the dice as to how it works I suppose. Hopefully they put a TH400 transmission behind it. Interior looks tired although the blue interiors in those did not age well. The first pic made me think it was painted an unfortunate light-mid blue but the later ones show the color differently so it may be close to a factory shade, difficult to tell.

fintail

oldfarmer50 said:

I’d take the New Yorker and the Mercury but at half the price. I guess the traditional $1500 car is now a $6000 car.

When I see a 33 year old car with only 4000 miles I shake my head and say what a waste.

At least locally, the old (as in prices from 2015 era) serviceable $2500 work car is $5000 now, maybe more if it has any hipster flipper "retro" cred. At the same time, the old $200K house can easily be $500K+ now, and the old $50K/yr job is now $60K/yr. Ah crap.

Corvette is a lesson for those wanting to buy one and put it away to have a minter in 30 years. Invest the price in anything - even at 5% you could then come back 33 years later and buy a couple of them with almost no miles, and have money left over.

gsemike

@ab348 said:
Somebody did a junkyard engine swap on that '68 Cutlass since the 455 didn't arrive until 1970 and the Cutlass could only come from the factory with a 350 in '68. It is a roll of the dice as to how it works I suppose. Hopefully they put a TH400 transmission behind it. Interior looks tired although the blue interiors in those did not age well. The first pic made me think it was painted an unfortunate light-mid blue but the later ones show the color differently so it may be close to a factory shade, difficult to tell.

A 68 442 would have had a 400 but yes, never a 455. The 455 doesn't look like a fresh swap so I'd imagine it's sorted out hopefully but it could be running a TH350 and 2 42 open read

fintail

Things for sale:

Nice colors, optimistic price, and I question a seller who calls the 8 hole wheels "original" (and I won't get into the automatic, pw, ps etc stuff)

Missing pieces

I mean, you're paying for the ad, maybe try harder with pics

So let me get this straight, it doesn't run? For that money, and a Big Altima Energy steering wheel cover?

Some shades of Biff Tannen here, don't see these early ones much

"Double your money" - sure

Super manual

Looks quality but that still won't get your money back

What are these, pictures for ants? They need to be at least twice this size

Seldom seen style but quite dear for condition

Detailed description

It has presence

Sport coupe (!!)

Thin on the ground

sda

72 Cutlass, rough and not Supreme, lol. Actually a 4dr Supreme only came as a hardtop, not a post sedan.

ab348

The Falcon wagon would be a cool project if you have a stack of cash you’re dying to get rid of.

stickguy

spokane looks like the island of misfit toys for VW buses

bhill2

That 69 Galaxie is quite the find, what with the 390 diesel.

xwesx

The Camry sounds like a timing belt. If I was in the area, I'd be sorely tempted to snap that one up given the overall condition. I like the Falcon, too, but I don't think I could handle @ab348 making fun of me if I actually bought it.

ab348

xwesx said:

The Camry sounds like a timing belt. If I was in the area, I'd be sorely tempted to snap that one up given the overall condition. I like the Falcon, too, but I don't think I could handle @ab348 making fun of me if I actually bought it.

Not at all. You already have an Econoline so I'm sure many of the mechanical bits are the same. Trim parts might be an issue though.

gsemike

The T Bird super coupe actually looks really fair

If you really wanted on in 89, snap that up

gsemike

First car shopping on Long Island
4 grand to 7500

Old Bimmers can be tricky but these looks OK for the price

Korean Buick These have really disappeared around here

Most boring Camry on Earht but should have plenty of life left

G8 V6 but looks sharp

This was worth 5 grand before the accident

88 Vette These are a dime a dozen but it's a manual and miles are decent

texases

Sonata - it must be ok, it has "no significant damage or problems"
Corvette - the one closeup pic of the interior is of dirty/grimy stuff. 5 minutes with a bottle of cleaner and roll of paper towels, please!

texases

$30k for a decent SS396 clone seems to be reasonable, dash/console/steering wheel could use some work:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/282000851375849/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks

gsemike

texases said:

Sonata - it must be ok, it has "no significant damage or problems"
Corvette - the one closeup pic of the interior is of dirty/grimy stuff. 5 minutes with a bottle of cleaner and roll of paper towels, please!

Yes, a good wipedown will help

gsemike

texases said:

$30k for a decent SS396 clone seems to be reasonable, dash/console/steering wheel could use some work:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/282000851375849/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks

In these parts, Big Block Chevy is gold, so that does look pretty good. 68s don't get the same money as 69-70, and manual steering and brakes hurts it, but I've definitely see worse 30 grand Chevelles

texases

Yeah, I thought at that price it left room to upgrade the brakes and steering. But I would also need a/c, so not the one I'd get for Dallas. I'd pay the extra $$ to get one ready to drive. Looks like that one in the ad used to have a/c, at least, so maybe not too expensive to refit it.

fintail

I bet the price on the Sonata is the balance on the note.

Many predicted that style would become dated, and they were right. The sibling Optima aged much better.

gsemike

texases said:

Yeah, I thought at that price it left room to upgrade the brakes and steering. But I would also need a/c, so not the one I'd get for Dallas. I'd pay the extra $$ to get one ready to drive. Looks like that one in the ad used to have a/c, at least, so maybe not too expensive to refit it.

That car is not too far from me. We get real summer but a lot of these cars don't have AC. I guess if you're driving at night with the windows open it's OK

explorerx4

The trunk well on that Chevelle looks scary.

texases

explorerx4 said:

The trunk well on that Chevelle looks scary.

True, I hadn't noticed. Definitely have to go over that car with a magnet, put it on a lift, etc, before making an offer.

gsemike

texases said:

explorerx4 said:

The trunk well on that Chevelle looks scary.

True, I hadn't noticed. Definitely have to go over that car with a magnet, put it on a lift, etc, before making an offer.

Good catch. Amatuer repair. Could be a car that someone buys and a few years it's bubbling all over

fintail

Time to see some beautiful classic cars for sale:

Inflation, optimistic tow hook (not to mention price)

Either there are twins or a flipper got ahold of this oddball, pretty sure it was less than half this price, good luck with that lol

Great photos, really shows detail of the condition of the body - and for that money, fix those quirks

"hotrod", maybe a decent price

Cool but not with those mods for that money

Parts car or fixer close to the ultimate K car, and another example of the next model year being from another planet

I suspect paint and interior are not original

2 Axels? Must be a person's name

Very early car, nice color, looks to have seatcovers or incorrect upholstery

These are rare but miled up, messed with, and rode hard might not justify the price

We build excitement

Hipster patina special

ab348

The '97 Cougar seems like a reasonable buy and the '98 Caddy might be also. The cars of that era scare me a bit now though with sensors and electronic gizmos that are unobtainium. The '83 GP is a bit dear but I'm impressed that the interior seems to have held up pretty well.

explorerx4

We are supposed to have a nice weather week coming up. 60 for a high tomorrow and 70's through Friday.
Charging up the battery on the Mustang in anticipation of that.

stickguy

something to entertain Wes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RprJwwT1d1w

gsemike

That Cougar is probably good for someone that likes them, but man, I don't like that year.

The front fascia, it's like it has a tiny Lincoln grill. I think that Ford gave up on trying to position it as sporty and was trying to go with classy. Very awkward

gsemike

explorerx4 said:

We are supposed to have a nice weather week coming up. 60 for a high tomorrow and 70's through Friday.
Charging up the battery on the Mustang in anticipation of that.

Nice. Your engine bay looks terrific