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Land Rover Range Rover Sport

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  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    I don't understand your question.

    By HSE do you mean the full size Traditonal Range Rover?
    If so then yes the Range Rover Sport drives a good bit different then the full size Range Rover. They weigh about the same, the sport is a couple of hundred pounds lighter depending on options, but the sport it much lower to the ground.

    The roll center on the spot is a bit higher and the center of gravity is a bit lower. The sport drives a bit more like a very heavy sports sedan and the Range Rover well...

    I can't really compare the drive of the Range Rover to any other vehicle on earth that I have ever driven. You sit up very high, higher then most trucks, but the ride, steering response and acceleration are more like a large luxury sedan.

    Even a shart turn in a full sized range rover at speed does not really feel that dramatic.
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    I'm sorry I didn't make it clear- I meant to compare the Range Rover Sport to the Lexus RX330, which my wife has now.

    Thanks anyway!

    If the normal Range Rover can't be touched by other SUVs in terms of performance, there is one truck that is about as good on the inside- the Lexus LX470. The interior materials, quality and design are impeccable, and it feels much more luscious, due to the less-modernized design and softer seats.

    However, my wife and I test drove an RR Sport HSE the other day- and I sat in the normal Range Rover in the showroom. Gorgeous! Can't imagine the sticker shock, though...
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    Well the RX330 is probably a little quicker to accelerate because it is so much lighter even though it has less horespower.

    I am not going to get into a discussion about lexus design but to me they are just boring cars. No soul at all.

    For long distance highway driving I think the Sport is a much better vehicle. All that weight does have its advantages. If you are used to the RX330 though I think you might get frustrated with it in stop and go city driving. It has plenty of power and brakes to move well in city traffic but all of that weight gives you a severe gas mileage penalty in stop and go traffic.
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    The RX isn't very light on gas either. Even though my wife drives as slow as she does, the RX gets a paltry 18mpg. I'd expect the Range Rover Sport HSE to deliver 16mpg- seeing as it gets 14 miles in the city and 19 on the highway.

    Also, I'm the city driver- not her. And the S4 Cabriolet does bad enough in the city, thank you! I average 15mpg on a regular basis!

    ;)

    As for the RX having no soul, I completely agree. The engine can have heart if you push it though, and the car is probably the easiest to live with I've ever owned.

    '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
  • asingal1asingal1 Posts: 4
    Hey guys,

    New here and getting close to buying a RRS Supercharged.

    The MSRP is something like 71,050 - wanted to know if there
    is ANY room for negotiation with these guys?

    I live in MD.

    The edmunds site shows that the "TMV" <-- what others are paying in our area is $68,500 (or something)...is that for real?

    Thanks!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,309
    TMV is based on real transactions, among other things:

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  • heli_docheli_doc Posts: 3
    :surprise: I got my RRS SC on MArch 11th

    within 2 weeks the car would lean to the right, dealer said it was the self levelling suspension

    I changed the cars direction inthe garden and the car still listed to the right.

    I drove the car back to dealer and they replaced an air-spring.

    within 2 days of me geting car back, the car listed to the right again. This time i asked them to flat bed the car back to the dealer and asked them to fix it properly.

    they did it and were very polite about all the interactions.

    Very happy with my dealership in North Carolina.

    ANyone else get a black RRS-SC- did you get lots of scratches on the car on delivery- my dealer said they could not buff them out- I really was disappointed with the finish.

    BUt I love the car. waited 14yrs to get one
  • jinpowerjinpower Posts: 17
    I just put a deposit down on a new RRS HSE which I pick up this Saturday. I have to drive 300 miles to pick it up since my local dealer was out of stock. The local dealer told me I would lose the benefit of getting a loaner car if I ever have to bring the car in for work to be done on it. Do any of you know if this is true, or is he just trying to make me wait and purchse it locally? Do you guys think it is a bad idea to buy a car from a dealer 300 miles away? Do you think I would receive a lower level of service? How about people who move from state to state who have no choice? Isn't the sales and service department seperate? How would they even know??? Thanks for your replys.
  • asingal1asingal1 Posts: 4
    Warrant Work,

    Do you mind me asking what you paid? Im about to get one as well and I want to know if they deal at all? Did you pay the MSRP?

    Thanks
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Posts: 2,197
    Loaner policy is up to each individual dealer. When service creates an RO, the salesman's name is printed on it. Also, we can go online with the last 8 numbers of the VIN and get a complete history. I personal hate it when our service department gives a loaner to someone who bought elsewhere in our market.
    To answer those with TMV on Supercharged Sport, I don't know of any dealer who is selling them below MSRP - we can't get the cars.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    We have a couple of people who bought cars out of market because we just could not get a vehicle for them. They wanted Superchaged Range Rovers and Sports in Black Black only and we could not get any.

    They bought elsewhere but they both asked me to show them how the stuff worked in their cars since the Rover dealer they bought them from just shipped them to them.

    They paid me a fair amount of money to basicly do a traditional style deliver for them and go over all of the cars featured.

    Neither one of them has brought a car in for service yet but if they did and they needed a loaner car I would ensure that they got one.

    Anyone else would be on their own unless they bought out of state and them moved into the area later. We give them loaner cars on a first come first served basis.

    The only supercharged Sport we have on the ground came in a couple of weeks ago and we won't get another one till july.

    Side note:

    LRguy I sent you an email about your last order call a while ago to see how you did. We were pleasently suprised by what LRNA gave us how did you guys do? Shoot me an email if you don't mind.
  • msenzakimsenzaki Posts: 1
    I have just purchased a 2006 RRS HSE and was wondering if anyone had a set of the 20" supercharged wheels. I was going to do 22" aftermarket wheels but the car is driven by my wife and she is opposed to the big wheels. You can shoot me an email if you are interested.
  • jinpowerjinpower Posts: 17
    I am down to one car and needed the car now for my wife. I have no option in waiting until they get more in stock locally. I believe they should offer a free loaner car if I needed it even if I purchase it out of town. I know BMW and Mercedes would do it. I believe Land Rover should understand that all Land Rover owners are there customers no matter where it was purchased. Having a happy customer today could mean potential business for them in the future. Plus, the service department makes money off warranty work don't they?? Hopefully, I won't even have to take the car in for overnight work. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

    As to a discount. Yes, very little. But, my car is not a SC. Dealers seem to not want to really negotiate on these cars.

    Thanks for all your replys. Much appreciated.
  • jinpowerjinpower Posts: 17
    Does anyone have 22" custom wheels on their RRSport? How is the ride? Any photos around to share with us? Can anyone recommend any custom 22" wheels/tires? How much can I expect to pay? What tires are the best bang for the buck? Also, does anyone know where you can get the silver side vents (like the SC's) for a HSE model? How about a white side marker (blinker)? Thanks again.
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    The side vent on the Range Rover Sport is standard on the HSE model, jin.

    ;)

    '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG &#149; '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet &#149; '04 Lexus RX 330

    My car:
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  • asingal1asingal1 Posts: 4
    OOO man, is it a BEAUTY. The color is the rimini red (I think I spelled that right). The car is absolutely amazing. I was lucky they acually had the exact one I wanted at a local dealer...

    AND the dealer gave me a small deal on it (almost $900 below MSRP).

    What I really love is when I'm driving down the street and people actually point at the car and awe...haha man what a beauty.
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    Yes, I too adore the looks of the Range Rover Sport- even the normal HSE version is arguably the best-looking SUV on the road (along with the Supercharged).

    Did you get the standard 20s, or the optional wheels? I think the standard Supercharged rims are gorgeous enough.

    How does it drive? I hope you push it! I was looking at the Range Rover Sport to replace my wife's Lexus, but she feels a bit uncomfortable driving it, so we're most likely getting a Mercedes-Benz E-Class (the updated 2007 version)- and we can't decide whether to get the E350 4Matic of the E550 4Matic.

    '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG &#149; '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet &#149; '04 Lexus RX330
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    BTW...

    The only reasons we wouldn't get the E550:

    1. Gets very pricey with options

    2. It could be a bit too much for her- she doesn't drive fast, and it would be embarrassing to say she has more horsepower than me!

    Again, any RR Sport is gorgeous... I stop and admire every time I see one- and I can't wait to see the new Audi Q7 on the road; it's supposed to be striking.

    '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG &#149; '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet &#149; '04 Lexus RX330
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    I saw a Q7 in white and it looked like Moby Dick. Seriously it looked like a beached whale.
  • jinpowerjinpower Posts: 17
    esf...yes I know the side vents are on all Range Rover Sport models. But, the SC versions all have silver front grills and side vents which I think look more aggressive. I just picked up my Bonatti Gray RRS and it is awesome! Everyone loves it. My wife is uncomfortable driving it as well but loves it. I'm certain she will get comfortable with it soon. You need to talk your wife in to getting one. You will be missing out. But, the Mercedes are nice too.
  • asingal1asingal1 Posts: 4
    Hey esf,

    Yeap, great car indeed - still elated every time I step into it. To be honest, I don't think it's hit me yet that it's MINE :)

    I got the standard 20s that come with the Supercharged, I wasn't even aware that there were upgrade rims for that. Those same rims are $4k for the HSE from what I understand.

    As for pushing it, not yet, I was specifically told to lay off until I hit 1,500 miles to give the car a chance to "break-in." I'm at 204 miles and counting :D
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    Are you British? I know how harsh you guys are, about almost everything... (not to offend)

    Other people, who have gone to Audi's "Streets of Tomorrow" event (pretty sure it's only in America), have said that the Q7 (parked next to an X5 and an XC90 that Audi brought in for comparison) said that it is the best-looking SUV yet- and white isn't a very flattering color for most SUVs.

    It's supposed to look quite good in black, especially with the 19" wheels and the Sport Package.

    I'm still thinking about talking my wife into getting the Range Rover Sport... I love it, my son loves it, and my daughter loves it; my wife just feels uncomfortable. She will be, however, taking it for a 24-hour test drive later in the year to see if she will like it.

    Just to let you guys know: the 2007 E, at least to me, is a significant improvement in terms of looks. The old one was getting tired and mundane, but the new bodykit/lights/rims really freshen it up- and the Sport Package on the new one looks absolutely fantastic!!! (polished 10-spoke rims, AMG-style rear bumper and large chrome exhausts, classier front end)
  • esfesf Posts: 1,020
    I've seen more Range Rover Sports lately- but I never get tired of them. Those cars have an air of elegance, athleticism, superiority even- and I can't get over it. I'm pretty sure the E, with options, is a bit more money than the Range Rover Sport, which makes the Mercedes look like a bad deal (as usual).

    I think the Range Rover Sport looks best at both ends of the spectrum- in lighter colors, such as Giverny Green and Arctic Frost, and darker colors like that gorgeous gray, and of course, black.
  • tpacar79tpacar79 Posts: 23
    I just recently this month took delivery of my RRS HSE. I currently live in Tampa and Atlanta (mostly). If you live in Atlanta you will know that Hennesey owns all three nearby dealerships. I had my list of color combos but the top choice (after alot of thought) was Giverny Green with Ivory lthr w/the LUX pkg, rear TV's, SAT, and the phone. I figured I wanted to get exactly what I wanted since I am spending a large sum of cash. I also qualified for X plan (if you work for a "vendor" of Ford and on the RRS that means a $3600 discount off of MSRP). I ended up buying the car from Reeves in Tampa as they had the exact color combo in stock! Very rare. I flew down and then drove back to Atlanta. (It was actually cheaper to do that then have it shipped)

    I will tell you that this color combo is perhaps the most elegant, richest, custom looking of the line. It looks as though it was designed to get oooo's and aahh's. Nothing pops more than the green dash and bottom door panels and white interior, roof and door sides which are tastefully done but extremly hard to keep clean.

    I did have a few things wrong with the car however at the day of delivery. One of the rear seat TVs had a pixel out and required replacement, the alignment was way off, and the car vibrated at 50mph. They aligned the wheels, fixed that problem. The TV was replaced at the local dealer once I got back to Atlanta but the vibration still exists...Reeves balanced all four wheels and Henessey has done the same but to no avail...I called up Continental and they referred me to the nearest dealer. They said although nothing is physically wrong with the tire itself, they are crummy tires and you will always have this problem (he said he gets alot of Land Rovers as most dont notice until after many miles and then Land Rover takes no fault). But i have had this problem since delivery so I am requesting new brand of tires as I just paid $65k, my car shouldnt vibrate. Do others have this problem???? Not getting a loaner is true unless you buy the car from that dealer. Once this is fixed and resolved I have no issues as the car is a joy to drive otherwise but I warn you a guy named Darryl at Land Rover CS was saying I would be repsonsible for milage on the tires and I argued not if its been like this since delivery and I am not. Avoid him, he is pompass. Hopefully Land Rover will move to Michelins and ditch Continental, they are cheap.
  • cpeterson3cpeterson3 Posts: 51
    Does Rover offer one that I am not aware of? or have you ever hard of talks to put one in place??

    I've done European Delivery thru BMW and its what keeps me going back for more. Euro Delv programs were basically pioneered to introduce brands to the US market and then I believe, evolved into a loyalty program which certainly has me hooked.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    They don't but I am sure they will offer one in the future. Volvo has one so no reason why one for Land Rover could not be developed.
  • samphoebe1samphoebe1 Posts: 13
    I live in the Atlanta area and use Verizon Wireless as my cell phone provider. I am getting a Range Rover Sport with bluetooth and wondered what type/model of cell phone do people recommend buying. I do realize that I will not be able to dock my phone in the car however. Thanks.
  • samphoebe1samphoebe1 Posts: 13
    What is the difference in the side vents on the SC and the HSE Range Rover Sport? Thanks.
  • plisken1plisken1 Posts: 13
    Verizon Wireless is my carrier as well. I have a Motorola Razr and it works great with my Bluetooth system in my Range Rover Sport Supercharged. No dock is needed. The only problem I've encountered is call waiting - I keep getting disconnected when trying to pick-up incoming calls when talking to someone. Others on the forum have mentioned a similar problem. Other than that, it's great.
  • rnzrangernzrange Posts: 3
    I have the same car, same phone. When I pick up call waiting, I always use my actual phone rather than the car feature and don't have a problem. :)
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