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Volkswagen Passat 2006+



  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    I have been custom ordering VWs for the past 8 problem. All one has to do is ask. The new Vehicle Inventory Management System is built to do this with no effort at all. :)
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    Transmissions are now all Aisen...Best trannys in the world...
  • surjn98surjn98 Posts: 34
    Test drove a 2006 Passat 2.0 last week and liked it's handling and it's looks. Has a host of safety features. I've owned a Honda Accord, Toyota & Nissan and am not sure if I should go into buying a VW based on passed reliability. Although the transmission is made in Japan & it does come with a 4-yr roadside assistance.
    Would appreciate everyone's thoughts. Thanks!!
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    The transmission coming out of Japan is not exactly a vote of confidence in German engineering, is it now? I guess VW has to do something to try to lift itself from near the bottom of the automotive reliability survey lists.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,662
    Not sure, but has VW’s transmission played a negative role in their reliability ratings?

    I always thought the VW’s, generally speaking, had the odds and ends (or nickel and dime) items go out; other than the coil fiasco.
  • rwatsonrwatson Posts: 82
    Well, as I've said before, I've never known their transmissions to be a problem for them. In fact, they've always been one of the "plusses" in their cars.

    VW reliability. Hmm. You need to understand one important thing concerning this and I'm surre most will agree. When you buy a VW, you are not buying a "normal" car. Sure, for German standards, it is a normal, everyday car. But compared to what we manufacture and what you get from Japan, it is very different. It is a certain feeling you get from driving one. They are engineered to feel sure-footed on the road. For years, you couldn't even get a center arm rest in them. The steering wheel was positioned in such a way that you didn't need one. It never felt right unless both hands were on the wheel. And in was comfortable like this. When they say a "driver's car," it means that this is a car that makes driving to work enjoyable each morning. There is a certain sound from their little 4-bangers that does not sound Japanese. The doors feel and sound different when you close them. You need to have one for a while to understand it. Can't be explained. I'm on my 3rd one. My 97 Jettea GLX was a wonderful car. The VR6 was the most wonderful engine around. Never a problem. My 02 Jetta wagon 1.8t had the coil problem. Oh man, what a problem. Taken care of though. My Passat wagon 1.8t has zero problems. So, just like any car, you have your lemons out there. The only problem VW has is VWoA. They are the enemy to be loathed. It all depends on who picks up the phone on any given day
  • rwatsonrwatson Posts: 82
    Oh, I forgot to mention this: They have such a wonderful feeling, sound, and even smell that no matter what the ratings are, if you really like driving cars, it's worth it again and again. I don't even look at anything else when I'm buying.
  • I think some would take issue with the statement that people who buy automatics are less discriminating or can't or won't "stand up to their spouses" (whatever that implies, it doesn't sound even remotely plausible.)

    The number of vehicles that are offered with both autos and sticks is decreasing.

    This either is a supply or demand issue, and my bet would be demand (despite the fact that admitting this galls me.)

    If VW's Passat with the nifty high output 6 would come with a manual transmission, my guess is they would have a difficult time selling them -- which in turn leads to a reluctance to order them for "inventory."

    I mean when even Ohio's largest BMW dealer will not stock manual versions of the 3 and 5 series sedans, well, you have to at least suspect it is a "demand" issue.

    The W8 Passat sport version was HEAVILY discounted and it just sat on the dealer's lot despite a great 8, stick shift, some ground effects, glitzy wheels, etc.

    And, for the record, my wife claims that any man who drives an automatic is driving, "an old man's car."

    I love VW and Audi products for the most part -- in June when I picked up my new Audi A6 3.2, there was no Passat 3.6 with all the toys for sale -- it "coulda" been a contender, since I was being forced to go with an automatic (since the A6 only comes one way.) My previous car had a 6spd (an allroad) manual, but the pickin's for such a car are slim, slimmer, slimmest these days.

    Pardon me while I cry in my beer. :cry:
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Errr, isn't it Aisin?

    As for them being the "Best in the world"..., well I suppose the folks over at Getrag might could well have a few things to say about that comment. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    Automatics are so pervasive that when my brother ordered a 530i from germany through military sales they delivered an automatic even though he ordered a manual. They probably figured it was going to the US so it must be an automatic. He actually accepted it since they did not charge him for the automatic. I would not have been able to do that. An automatic on a nice car is like putting ketchup on a nice steak - it completely changes it for the worse.

    Anybody know the EPA mileage on the 2.0t with the manual transmission?
  • rwatsonrwatson Posts: 82
    I don't think the wife's going to let me get this one. :sick:
  • Keep waiting Dewey...According to VWoA, the 2006 Passat will NOT be available with a TDI engine. I'm so bent about this.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I ordered a 530i via the ED program a couple of years ago and when I went to pick the car up Ernst, my client advisor remarked that, "I ordered the car properly, Sport Package and Manual Transmission". I think that he was surprised that I actually ordered the stick. :-/

    Best Regards,
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, it seems that when it comes to what wives want, us guys need to take a page from the "Wifely Guide Book". By that I mean if you really want something that your spouse is dead set against, then you need to make her change her mind by getting her the believe that it's her idea for making the change and that that is what she really wanted all along. ;-)

    The trick to this technique (and what wifey type people are so good at) is figuring out what the critical ingredient is that will trigger the change in thinking. Good luck. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • rwatsonrwatson Posts: 82
    "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnege (did I spell that right?)Only problem is it takes you so far down below, if it were to backfire you'd really be up the creek. ;)
    I mean it didn't get me some guy's mint Corrado, and who on this earth could pass that one up? :confuse:
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Geez I loved the VR6 Corrado, that is except the mouse track shoulder belts. I was needing a car during the spring of 1993 and in the end it came down to either the Corrado or the MX6 (or the Probe GT, same basic car). The biggest automotive mistake I've made in my life was not getting the Corrado. :-(

    Best Regards,
  • rwatsonrwatson Posts: 82
    And I thought I was the only one still crying in my beer.
  • OK, on every VW forum, posters are complaining about how difficult it is to get a manual on the Passat. Then the threads get bogged down going back and forth about the logistics of manuals vs. autos vs tip vs DSG....wive's who refuse to learn how to shift manually....Americans who buy auto transmissions in huge numbers ( we didn't that already!).....etc...etc

    I want to cut all through that and get to the bottom line:

    VWguild and other VW insiders in the know..please answer the following as correct or not (as I believe I have seen it expressed in other forums) :

    It is not difficult to get the exact car you want, including a manual. You need to get in touch with the Internet sales specialist at your favorite dealer, establish a relationship, and they can custom order the car as you want it built, according to what is available. True or False?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Just for kicks I tried to configure a new Passat with a leather interior and the configurator informed me that I needed to opt for both the satellite radio option (ugh, if you say so) and the slushbox tiptronic transmission. What's up with that? Is it really true that VW is forcing an automatic on those of us who want a leather interior? Geez, I thought that they were being dumb by not offering three pedals under the dash for the VR6 mill, then this pops up. I'm thinking that the word "dumb" doesn't begin to describe the folks at VWoA.

    Best Regards,
  • deweydewey Posts: 5,243
    Just for kicks I tried to configure a new Passat with a leather interior and the configurator informed me that I needed to opt for both the satellite radio option (ugh, if you say so) and the slushbox tiptronic transmission.

    DISASTER!! Dont they teach the following in Marketing 101:

    Customer is King! Give the customers what they want.

    Is there anybody in Wolfsburg that would like to take a marketing course??
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