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2009 Toyota Corolla

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  • Hello Partners, did you find some new infromation or picture about corolla, please let me know?? :)
  • synpthesissynpthesis Posts: 28
    interesting posts in the past while and I hope Toyota considers the wide spectrum of Corolla buyers as it prepares for the new launch.
    I currently drive an XRS (a really neat compact car) which just suits my needs fine. Lots of solitary trips with opportunities to floor the gas pedal (first or second gear) and a desire to be frugal with gas if needed.
    Despite my driving contradictions and even though the XRS drinks premium, I routinely obtain better than 7.4l/100km (approx 31mpg).
    This is a big part of what I enjoy in my driving experience but I recognize that the next gen corolla may revert more to the utility end of the scale. That's ok as I will simply shop elsewhere. Still I hope that Toyota will strive to achieve some balance.
    Performance versions of even boring cars are not supposed to sell in volumes. Just something to attract and create some buzz. Nothing outlandish in that.
  • I would like to upgrade my corolla LE 2003, actually it has 127 Hp, if I add a TRD turbo whats the new power??
    Ghange tires 195-65-15 to 215-55-16 tires and wheels.
    Change rear drum brakes to disc brakes, Thi car doesn`t have ABS systems but use EBD, ELectronic Brakin Distribution Device, and trust me is more realiable and trusty than ABS in curves.
    What else do you suggest to up grade?? Maybe and rear stability bar, I am open to suggestion and links to search. :)
  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    I think you may be wanting to look at a different forum for that info, Fast: Perhaps the Forum Moderator can point you in the right direction.

    I know there are *M*A*N*Y* user groups around (even here) that focus on the modifications people make to their Toyotas because Toyotas are, as a result of design, ameniable to modification (both "approved" and "not-so-approved").

    My days of tinkering under the hood, though, are long gone (I gave up with the end of carburation).

    Did you check out the sites I linked above???
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    Fastandstyle,
    You'll probably have better luck on our Speed Shop discussion board.

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  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    "Toyota announced record May sales for the Corolla, 41K, up 28%. Yep, this now aging model, long derided as "boring" by auto reviewers continues to be very popular with the group that sometimes counts the least, customers."

    Don;t forget Toyota totally statisically combines Matrix and Corolla sales numbers together.
  • Hellos Partners!!!! I wae searching a while, I found in toyoya nation forum, Toyoya is changing from 1:8 vvti to 2.0 vvti increasing the power between 135 to 150 Hp in normal production. And the automatic transmision is 5 speed triptonic. Maybe de XRS comes with 190 HP :)
  • gampagampa Posts: 78
    Going another direction... for those FE minded people... Just scoped out www.carpages.co.uk/guide/toyota/ and noticed that the...UK... has the option of a corolla diesel, 114bph, that gets almost 50 mpg with manual...
    Now why can't Toyota bring this to the USA...
    Would certianly have a lot of VW owners looking.

    Gampa
  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    Actually, that is a *VERY* good question in light of the major diesel players in the USA having significant quality issues.

    It used to be cars like VW and Mercedes-Benz (the only current offerings in diesel cars in the USA) on top of all Consumer Reports, Consumer Research, Edmunds, and other "quality oriented" lists. And, of course, both German builders offered the best diesels made: Germans were known for their phenomenal diesel engines.

    It seems that, for both these German manufacturers, the customer satisfaction and quality 3-5 years out is frankly NOT what it was ten years ago: I would buy the Toyota diesel before the VW diesel - especially so after knowing three people who have had VW diesels built and bought since model year 2000.

    In all three cases (two Jettas, one Passat), the owners essentially said the VWs were stylish, nicely-handling, overpriced bits of automotive feces. The current consumer ratings back those claims.

    Given the VWs are expensive at the high twenty-thousand US dollar mark (I'm leaving the Mercedes diesel offerings out as the rock-bottom price is $36,000 US dollars; that's entry-level luxury pricing), a Corolla diesel DOES make good sense.

    BUT - when does "making sense" every really seem to drive decisions?! :shades:
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    A diesel Corolla, Camry, Tacoma, Tundra are great solutions. Only diesels can't be sold at present in 5 of the most populous states here, the CARB states. Thus no major manufacturer is going to have a product that can't be sold in CA, NJ, NY, CT, MA, RI, VT, NH, ME.

    Now for model year 2008 and later this will change.
  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    KDH -

    It is currently planned to change in NY in 2007.

    As I understand it, NY State will mandate that ALL diesel sold will be low-sulphur, which means it can also run thru a catalyzed exhaust system.

    Which is actually cool.

    Because then, in NY (which is where I live), I can have a diesel.

    What I am ultimately interested to see is a hybrid syngergy drive diesel. Eliminate diesel sluggishness, up the milage yet even more.

    THAT would be cool!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    who saw this?

    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060619/FREE/60619005/1041/T- OC01ARCHIVE

    an Autoweek article today confirms the Corolla's engine will remain 1.8 liters, and incorporate dual VVT-i next time around (intake and exhaust), which will be good for emissions and probably boost power a bit too. I liked the part where Toyota said they expect a 5% increase in fuel efficiency over the current engine. :-)

    If they could get me a Corolla that made 34/43 with the stick, and perhaps had a little more power and nicer interior to boot, I would be sold. The only question then is whether to get the sedan or the hatchback (Matrix). I hope they continue the Matrix line, and I am afraid they won't because of marketing games with the Scion brand.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    Nippon - I dunno if you noted this, above "Hellos Partners!!!! I wae searching a while, I found in toyoya nation forum, Toyoya is changing from 1:8 vvti to 2.0 vvti increasing the power between 135 to 150 Hp in normal production. And the automatic transmision is 5 speed triptonic. Maybe de XRS comes with 190 HP."

    Conflicts with the post above of yours. I did check your article, though: it cites a Toyota Motors guy as the source

    Fast, do you have a source for your post?

    I'm suspicious, Fast, that your post may be addressing an XRS or an XRS-like vehicle.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    I think you have answered your own question there: the 2.0, if there is to be one, is for an XRS model. If that's true, I am intrigued that Toyota will continue to offer an XRS after the model turnover.

    I also hope that UNLIKE this time, they make that 2.0 the base engine for the Matrix - with its higher profile and 300 extra pounds, the Matrix shouldn't be using the same engine as the Corolla sedan. It becomes a bit of a slug (a LOT of a slug in AWD form).

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    I also hope that UNLIKE this time, they make that 2.0 the base engine for the Matrix - with its higher profile and 300 extra pounds, the Matrix shouldn't be using the same engine as the Corolla sedan. It becomes a bit of a slug (a LOT of a slug in AWD form).

    I have friends in Kansas City who have TWO Matrices (that really is the plural). They say the 5-speed is zippy. Or is that just the cumulative difference between (1) FWD vs. AWD and (2) stick vs. auto?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    strains to maintain speed on any sort of highway grade, and in town Geo Metros will be impatiently going around you as you pull away from lights.

    Now, auto vs stick does make a lot of difference in this model, yes. I have driven both, owned one. The "I simply REFUSE to downshift" 4-speed HAS TO GO for the next gen. With a 5-speed auto it would be more responsive even if the power is unchanged, which I am sure will not be the case.

    Problem is, they need to boost power a bit but stay ahead of mpg ratings of the RAV4, in my view of things. Current model (FWD) is very decent at 30/36 with the stick, I think. I wouldn't want to see more than a 10% decline from that figure, even if they used a 2.0 for the base engine.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Mas y mas Rumores del Corolla 2008
    Post: 02/05/2006 08:03:03 pm, Categorías: Sedan, Autor: Gabriel R.
    Según fuertes rumores Toyota estaría eliminando los motores de 1.8L VVTI para cambiarlo por motores de 2.0L VVTI, tendrá entre 135HP y 150HP, Transmisión Tiptronic de 5 velocidades, y con consumos de gasolina por el orden de 36 a 38 MPG todo esto en modelos corolla.
    Accorddin with heavy rumors, Toyota will elimiinate 1.8L vvti engines to upgrade to 2.0 L VVTI with 135-150 HP :)
  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    Fast,

    That rumor comes via post.

    I think the AutoWeek article (http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060619/FREE/60619005/1041/- T- OC01ARCHIVE) is probably accurate.

    Especially with quotes direct from Toyota.

    Sorry there, but the 2.0 is either for XRS or similar models -OR- the poster authoring the article is just making a guess.

    My bet is on the info from AutoWeek.

    UNLESS . . . you happen to have engine OPTIONS available, which I don't expect in North America (cuz we always get the most boring models on the mistaken assumption 'Murkins equate "good milage" and "boring" as a REQUIREMENT for an economy-class car).
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I'd bet on a dual VVTi version of the 1.8L. It will be interesting to see the power and efficiency improvements; I'd imagine with the right tuning the 1.8L could hit about 140 hp (real, SAE certified, up from the 126 at current), while still offering decent torque figures.

    ~alpha
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    one of the first models measured under the new EPA testing regimen applicable to all 2008 model year cars and later. If Toyota manages to boost the real fuel economy by 5%, I wonder what that will translate to in the new EPA ratings. My guess is they will go down by 5% from the current 32/41-30/38.

    And then again, if the weight of the car increases by 5%, it may all be a wash, and the new EPA numbers may decline substantially from the current ratings. Note that the new Civic increased in weight by almost 10% from the old model.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    I hope the Corolla gets a little larger. There is a huge gap in the size lineup right now.

    In cubic ft.
    90 Yaris
    91 Corolla
    102 Camry
    107 Avalon

    If the Corolla grew to 95-96 cubic ft, that would make more sense. I also hope they bring back the wagon. No the Matix does not count - it is quite a bit shorter than a Corolla and uses much more gas. A true wagon would be roomier than the Matrix with the mileage of the Corolla.

    A no brainer in terms of what the car does - but Toyota feels that we want guzzling SUV's, not efficient wagons.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    cars that can call themselves "Crossovers" as the Matrix does are selling much better now than cars that call themselves "wagons". Yes, wagons do sell, but I think if Toyota continues a non-sedan variant of the Corolla into the next gen, you can expect it to continue the "crossover" theme, which means higher roof, which means less aerodynamic and therefore more gas-thirsty.

    I am quite sure the next Corolla sedan will grow exactly as you have requested, though. I hope it doesn't get an ugly "bustle back" trunklid to artificially increase trunk space to boost the numbers.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "If the Corolla grew to 95-96 cubic ft..."

    Prius - 96 cubic ft. ;)
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    Yeah, but the Prius is a different animal - 50% more expensive than a Corolla.
  • beantownbeantown Posts: 228
    If the Corolla gets any bigger, they're gonna have a hard time convincing me that it should still be classified as a compact car, and not a midsize car. It's already six inches longer and taller than my 97 corolla. How much bigger can it really get before it becomes the new Camry?

    The Elantra is going in the same direction with the soon to be released 2007 model. So much for rising gas prices changing the way people think about their rides.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Toyota is on a 10 yr cycle on nearly all it's vehicles concerning the platform ( chassis ) and engine. Major restyling is done every 5 yrs or so while tweaks are done at the 3 yr level.

    This chassis is significantly larger than your 97 as you mention thus it will remain the same for the next 5 yrs with a major restyling done next yr. The '07's will start to be built next month but like the Camry I'd be almost certain that the completely new '08's will debut in Mar/Apr next year. It'll be the same chassis but an all new body and styling. EPA Fuel Ecoomy ratings have remained in the high 30's for at least 10 yrs now.

    I'd guess that it will have the same sleeker look profile as the new Camry just a smaller version. Another way to look at it is a bigger version of the Yaris. The Yaris now is the equivalent of your '97 Corolla just with a ton more features and more modern lines.
  • Because with this brain storm, there are 397 diferents ideas and points of view, I Hope Edmunds and Toyota invite a selected team from this forum to test the new corolla 2008 and toyota motors company give us and special gift or bonus price like a recompense to be an enthusiastic corollaholic promoters.

    What do you think, Corolla Partners??? i`m asking too much in exchange?? Is this idea possible.... Maybe... :)
  • Just wondering if Toyota's going to put in a 3rd row in the upcoming Matrix replacement, similar to the EU Corolla Verso/Avensis Verso MPV variants or the Asian market Wish. Wouldn't mind getting a small car with an emergency use back seat in case our Sienna is in the shop, or otherwise out of commission.
  • shado4shado4 Posts: 287
    Was scanning through the August issue of Motor Trend at the grocery store today and they claim to have pictures of what appears to be the new Corolla.

    Compared to the new Civic, the "new" Corolla is still conservatively styled, although Motor Trend says the rake of the windshield is more drastic than the first attempt at a restyle.

    IMO, it does nothing for me. Just another "blah" sedan.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    And yet the public continues to gobble up the blah design pushing Corolla sales up and up. Weird. The market speaks as it always does.

    It may just be that Toyota has tapped a vein into the US public's buying desire.
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