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2009 Toyota Corolla

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  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Not really. If you add the same options everyone wants to the Corolla, the Corolla costs more.
    The Corolla is outdated now. It should have been replaced already instead of for 2009 models. When the new Corolla comes out, it will cost more and be discounted less, so the price difference with the Yaris will be more dramatic at that point.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I never viewed the Tercel as having competed with the Corolla; its cu. ft. was always a good deal less than the Corolla's.

    The Yaris is still selling well, and, I believe, above projections. I'd say its more likely a mix issue - there's a lot of Yari that I've seen on dealer lots that I wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole. Plus, the Corolla situation is fairly unique right now - the model is in its final, lame-duck, and to-be-abbreviated Model Year, which naturally exerts downward pressure on price. Just think of those poor Ford dealers, who only have an 8 year old Focus to work with in these segments...
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Well, let's see. I have a Yaris sedan sitting in my showroom as we speak with the following options:
    CP,GY,KE,PQ,CF. with an MSRP of $16,255.00 including destination charge. These options are basically the cold weather package, side curtain/side impact bags, power windows, locks, and mirrors, keyless entry, and floor mats.

    I configured an 07 Corolla LE with the following options:
    CK,VV,AB,BE,CF which is basically the same as the Yaris options. You get a six cd changer with the Corolla an MP3 aux input with the Yaris, both come with ABS, etc. The Corolla stickers at $18,380.00 with current incentives you can pick one up for invoice less rebate which is $750.00 in my region. Plus $200.00 dealer cash.
    When all is said and done, I'm looking for a Corolla LE for less than 16K versus a Yaris with no incentives and about an $800.00 markup between invoice and MSRP. so if I can grind down the salesperson to invoice on the Yaris I can get it for a whopping $15,455.00. My momma didn't raise no fool so I go with the Corolla. More power, better interior, the list goes on.
    :)
    Mackabee
  • giantkillergiantkiller Posts: 273
    Subarus AWD know-how? You mean Toyota is learning from Subarus AWD technology. That's hilarious.
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    But this is the 2009 Corolla. Much better styling, IMO. You can even see it ace the IIHS test:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbo_DNn-fOE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdCn8ci-mWM&mode=related&search=

    This song is a standard feature! :shades:

    At least the front end is better. They probably are virtually the same between the pillars. :blush:

    DrFill
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    That's why I made the title read: This is what we were getting. :) It is the same car between the pillars. You can see the interior is the same on both.
    Initially Toyota leaked the pics of the Corolla Axio to gauge response here. When you get a chance go to www.thehollywoodextra.com I been going to that website for years and I trust his posts better than anybody's when it comes to future vehicles.
    :shades:
    Mackabee
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    And that's why I showed you the updated version, which looks exactly like a Camry/Yaris love child.

    Nobody liked Version 1.0, so how ya like me now? :shades:

    DrFill
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    I've already seen pics of that car, but that's another country. There has always been different styling in other countries, so why would it be any different this time?
    The U.S. version will probably different than what is in Japan or China or Europe.
  • ever12ever12 Posts: 22
    Subarus AWD know-how? You mean Toyota is learning from Subarus AWD technology. That's hilarious.

    Yes, Subaru is years ahead of Toyota in terms of AWD technology. And rightfully so. Subaru has been making AWD as far back as I can remember and stopped producing any 2WD cars in the 90's.
  • ever12ever12 Posts: 22
    http://news.windingroad.com/auto-news/spied-mystery-two-door-subaru-toyota/#more- -850

    Here's the mystery car Winding Road found in Michigan. To me looking closely and comparing to pictures of the Auris, I assume they are one in the same. Details like the circular reverse light in the tail light and projecter headlight seemingly in the same design under the tape. So why would they bring a veiled Auris here? Unless Michigan is the new Nürburgring, I suspect that we'll see the Auris here.
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    What's important is the front and rear end styling.

    The rear looks like a Corolla, and notice the rear bumper reflectors, the 2008 Highlander has these as well.

    The front borrows heavily from the Yaris and Camry, fitting nicely into the new lineup.

    The '09 will look EXACTLY like that. I hope you like it. :D

    DrFill
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,733
    Since the car in these pics has a definite U.S.-spec Yaris and Camry influence, I'll bet you're right.

    It looks a lot bigger than the current Corolla, also.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    so DrFill, is that our Corolla h/b that will debut at SEMA, or what we're expecting the Blade nee Matrix to morph into?
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    About the Blade making it to SEMA. I think we'll see a production Blade in Detroit next year.

    I've seen preliminary photos, and it's alright. I always liked the Matrix's look. :shades:

    DrFill
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    they actually ANNOUNCED that the Blade would be shown at SEMA?

    As for the running Yaris v Corolla debate, the Yaris is the sportier of the two, it is the more fuel-efficient of the two, and there's no way the Corolla's interior is any nicer than the Yaris's, except for the center gauges thing, which some love, others hate, and some love to hate...

    Plus, right now Yaris is one of the few models available with a dual VVT-i engine, if memory serves. Corolla's engine certainly doesn't have that yet. The next one had better have that of course...

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    Eye sore the press release for the HD TUndra, Convertible FJ, and the 09 Corolla.

    They may've made an addendum. Blade wasn't on the initial docket.

    Regarding Yaris vs Corolla, having shown many couples both cars, the materials in the Yaris are easily eclipsed, and the Baby-Camry vibe does live on in the Corolla. IT definitely comes off more upscale, and conservative.

    The Yaris is more space efficient, doh. I have no problem with the guages.

    And the overstuffed Corolla seats definitely make an impression too. ;)

    DrFill
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Here's a link to lots of pics of the Blade. I hope this replaces the Matrix! :)
    Mackabee

    scroll down the page to get to the pics.

    http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news-393-Toyota+Blade%2C+ready+to+go+%21.html
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    is it really going to have those funny little quarter windows ahead of the front doors, like Prius and Versa do? Why is everyone doing that now?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    Apprecialte the Matrix instead of player-hate.

    DrFill
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    For visibility? I don't like the front fascia of that Blade, but I'm all about the overall shape and style. Hopefully the US-spec will jazz things up a bit.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    Speaking of Jazz, that's another model with those funny little quarter windows ahead of the front doors! :-P

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    What do you mean doc?
    Mack
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    What he means I BELIEVE is
    (1) I have a Matrix, and
    (2) Rather than present views that differ from his own on the Corolla, I should enjoy my car and be quiet. ;-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Well, that's not cool! I would never put anyone down because I don't like or agree with the car they buy.
    :shades:
    Mackabee
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    Yeah! Actually, assuming the next-gen Corolla is properly updated and begins to sell near MSRP for a while again, Yaris sales should jump up, I would think. Hard to say how much xD/xB sales will hold Yaris sales back at dealerships that also sell Scions. But the Yaris is competitively priced and a decent little car, and its sales as good as they are are probably being suppressed currently by the fire sales all over the place on Corollas.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    The xD is going to kill the Yaris, unfortunately. :cry: With a no-haggle price of $15,170.00 including destination for a 5SPD! ;) and $15,970.00 for an Automatic, who could ask for anything more?
    The only factory option will be VSC/TRAC. Accessories may be added at the port or at the dealer.
    You probably already know it comes standard with the usual power windows/locks/mirrors, cruise control, a/c, am/fm/cd by Pioneer with 160 watts and i-POD connectivity. And let's not forget safety. Standard side impact and curtain airbags in addition to dual stage front airbags and active headrests. And let's not forget the TLA's ;) ABS/EBD/and BA.
    Did I mention it has a tilt steering wheel with audio controls! :blush: standard! Oh and let's not forget the 4 cylinder Dual VVT-i 1.8L that makes 128 ponies at 6000 RPM and 125 lb-ft of torque at 4400 RPM. New EPA testing methodology puts the MPG at 27/33 for the hand shaker, and 26/32 for the Auto. Now the only thing for you to do is choose your color and go reserve one!
    :shades:
    Mackabee
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    The xD has alot of features, but the styling looks worse than a Yaris. It also has those huge C pillar blind spots.

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  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The new xD which has just debuted in Japan and is known as the ist , is an actual evolution of the xA which was also the first ist in Japan. The US market 08 xB shares nothing at all with the previous xB, in fact it is not sold in Japan. The Japan market bB is an evolution of the previous bB.
    The US 08 xB is in reality an tC 4 door wagon. The chassis, frame, subframe, engine and transmission is the same. If you look closely you can see the resemblance in the front grill and headlights. It's amazing what designers can do with CAD. ;)
    Mackabee
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    Well it should put Toyota's marketing strategy to the test: are sedans, in fact, much more popular in America? If so, the xD hatchback will lose lots of individual contests to the Yaris sedan.

    And of course the Yaris will use 10-20% less gas than the xD, another plus especially among the budget- and environment-minded. Not to mention that the Yaris will be lighter, a plus for handling etc. Most importantly, it provides an alternative for us minimalists who don't value 42 airbags, iPod connectivity, stability control, and power windows quite so highly. :-)

    I fear "us" minimalists might be a group of one, me myself and I! I suppose the new Corolla will have the whole power package standard beginning with the '09...and six airbags too....

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

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