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BMW M3

boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
edited March 14 in BMW
Is 2008 really the estimate for the next M3 to come out? That's what Motortrend has listed anyways. Engine-wise they hint at a V8 this time, producing around 400hp.

I can't see BMW using a V8 in this car personally. Motortrend reasoning was a V8 version of the new V10 going in the M5.

Either way, I'd expect prices to soar farther up?
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  • rikkrikk Posts: 14
    With the Acura RL, Audi S4, Volvo S60R, and other all wheel drive performance sedans I certainly hope BMW has a M3 sedan with AWD lurking on a design board somewhere. Come on guys lets have something to compete with them!
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    The M3 is a coupe currently. I've heard rumors it'll be changing to a sedan and a even higher performance M4 coupe will supercede it. Who the heck knows!
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,403
    a V8 is a must in the next Gen M3, given the V8 competition (S4, IS400). As for awd, many think it a neccessity to get all those horses hooked up.

     

    I don't neccessarily agree but that's where the marketing side comes in. Speaking of marketing, there's no way BMW can wait til '08 for the next M3/4 while Audi cleans up w the S4 and Lexus introduces the IS400 (or is it a 430?).
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    The current 3.2l pumps out 333hp, but the torque is a bit low.

     

    Why can't they just up the displacement a little? If they went up to say 3.4l, they could get about 355hp probably out of it!
  • westgmnwestgmn Posts: 11
    have you test driven any of these cars?
  • radox5radox5 Posts: 3
    I'm thinking of buying BMW M3 2005, but I'm a little afraid that I'll be stock with old model when the 2007 M4 comes out. I will like to enjoy my M3 at least for 3 years before the new model comes out. What you guys think???
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,403
    Being "stuck" with an old M3 is a problem a lot of people would like to have, including me.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    I can see waiting if you want SMG. Otherwise this is the last chance for the one with the rowing machine and stairmaster. Sad isn't it?
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    This thread should be entitled 2006 M3. That's when the new model is scheduled to come out!

     

    "To tide over buyers anxious for the V8-powered 400-hp M3 due in 2006...."

    http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/la_show/m3/pa- ges/1.htm

     

    Got the above quote from the 2005 AutoShow.
  • Actually, though it will come out in 2006, it's scheduled as a 2007 model. Title changed.

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  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    you: Why can't they just up the displacement a little? If they went up to say 3.4l, they could get about 355hp probably out of it!

     

    me: Or why can't they keep the engine the same displacement as it is now, and apply any technology enhancements to getting better mpg?

     

    I guess I'll answer that by saying that the hp-race going on now is what consumers care about, over any mpg-race that others hope for.

     

    If BMW wants to stay in the hp-race then of course they need to address the competition. And many people who test drive a vehicle do not care what the hp is, if they don't feel the low-end torque, from a stop.

     

    I would guess the C-6 Corvette would be a direct competitor. Does BMW want to keep up? The C-6 Z-06 will launch next year with 500hp and close to that in torque. For the same money, most people are going to buy a Vette; unless you really want a back seat. Or that person might buy a 400-hp GTO, for less $.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,946
    I don't think too many potential M3 buyers will be shopping a GTO.. A Vette or an Audi S4 maybe.. Not that the cars aren't basically similar (2+2 coupes with lots of horsepower).

     

    For the same reasons that Lexus LS400 buyers weren't shopping Impala SS.. sort of..

     

    Too far apart in price..

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  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    you: I don't think too many potential M3 buyers will be shopping a GTO..

     

    me: you're probably right, but the GTO is a viable alternative. If you like to pay $20K extra for the marque, and a different sort of performance (some pluses and some minuses). $20K can buy a lot of vacations to Hawaii though for instance. :-)
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,946
    Most people (meaning..not like me) that can afford $55K-$60K for an M3, don't have much trouble paying for that Hawaiian vacation..

     

    It IS a different sort of performance.. More pluses than minuses IMO... but, even disregarding that.. different enough that it won't be cross-shopped..

     

    I have a co-worker that has an '04 GTO... To me, it looks like a stretched Cavalier.. The '05 looks marginally better.. But, really, it is mostly horsepower... It handles like a pig on the stock all-season tires..

     

    The Vette, I could see... But, then you have the 2-seat thing..

     

    And... no one spends over $30K on any car.. and doesn't at least consider the brand image.. Nothing wrong with that, either..

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,122
    If you're that afraid of the new model, then lease an '05 M3 for 3 years. By the time your lease is up, the new V8 powered M3 will be out for about a year and should have all of the bugs worked out. The V8 id bound to have some problems like the current S54 motor did when it was introduced in 2001.

     

    andys120: I completely agree with you. I'd love to be "stuck" with an E46 M3:)

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,122
    I love the current E46 M3 and would love to snatch up a leftover '06 model when the new E90 M3 comes out. As long as it has a 6-speed manual, black interior, and sunroof, I'll be happy!

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  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    My new Road and Track just got here. It's got a mention of an upcoming M4 - a coupe with around 385hp.

     

    I've seen mention of the M3/M4 -> where they mention them as maybe being the same car, so didn't know. I know the M5 will be the larger V10 sedan. I know the M6 is coming out, which will be a much larger coupe.

     

    So, where would the M4 fit?
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,946
    BMW toyed with having the sedans as 3-series and the coupes as 4-series..

     

    They dropped that idea, but much of the media seems to keep hanging on to it..

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  • radox5radox5 Posts: 3
    Hi guys,

    I'm thinking about buying a 2002 or 2003 BMW M3 convertible. I found one for sale that is 2002 with 12000 miles garage kept, SMG, 19 inch wheels, Navigation system, basicaly the car has everything that you can imagin. Also the car has BMW warrany until May 2006, and maintanence warrant until May 2005. The owner is asking $45000. I have few question for you guys;

    1) Is the car worth it $45000?

    2) Before I decide to buy this car should I take this car to a dealer for inspection?

    3) Can I extend the warranty to 100k?

    4) What should I look for when I go for a test drive?

     

    Please let me know what you guys think.
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    How about - off topic. 45k; no.
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