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Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

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  • nexuslexusnexuslexus Posts: 147
    Some more LS600hl pictures- sorry if they are old.
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  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,664
    OAC - this is more like what I've been told about the car by someone who drove it, as opposed to those early garbage reviews by the European rags. This car must have bothered the hell out of those reviewers, hence the need for them to interject the subjective (translation - imaginary) word into their review. Now I'm told the LS600HL is off the charts and nothing under $110K can even touch it. I'll trust that guys opinion. BTW he didn't drive the touring package so his report on excellent handling on the gas LS compares almost exactly with the exemplary handling noted in your link. I wish the stock market was as easy to call as these reviewers opinions are.
  • If you cannot afford a 70K$ LS and if you are not financially secure you can buy a loaded GS for 59K$ or wait for a few years and buy a used LS 460.

    I think if Lexus offers the new base LS 460 for anything less than 70K$ they will commit a huge blunder. Epic proportions really.

    Unlike Cadillac and Acura, lexus aspires to be a global brand and they must price all their products head-to-head with benz and bmw.

    The reason why IS is doing so well, and hopefully LS will do well also, is because they are great cars and great cars do not need cut-rate pricing.

    On the other hand GS has a very lethargic styling and handling and bad packaging so it has poor sales. Lexus should quickly refresh GS and change those head lights.
  • xerok00lxerok00l Posts: 12
    My favorite views of the car. ;)">
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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,824
    Thanks - I bought those shoes especially for that show :)

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  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,664
    What's the sticker price of that option - with or without the shoes?
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    What's the sticker price of that option - with or without the shoes?

    Very funny indeed, Len.... Is that our host Kirstie for real ? WOW !!! Edmunds hire stunning hosts ;) Can I apply even though I don't look half as good, not female, and cannot fit into those clothes and shoes :):):)
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,824
    Priceless
    ;)

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  • nexuslexusnexuslexus Posts: 147
    What I've always found amusing is that they show off the champagne flutes and holders- at least in the state of Michigan, it is a crime to have an open bottle of alcohol in the passenger compartment- so those glasses may be of no use.
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,862
    Glasses? What glasses? ;) Lexus will sell a million of em!!

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    "Gas estimates are 20/27 mpg for 4.6 V8, Lexus should redesign their engines to not be gas guzzlers."

    You're kidding, right? My 05 gets me 30.3 on the highway at 85mph, and 19+ a little in only city driving. For a V-8, that's the best I've ever seen, or had. Not a guzzler to me, quite the economy car compared to my other ones. Anyway, that's how I feel. :confuse:
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    At $70K nobody will buy it and it may fail like other Toyota models.

    Which Toyota models were these ?

    Gas estimates are 20/27 mpg for 4.6 V8, Lexus should redesign their engines to not be gas guzzlers.

    Wanna see a gas guzzler ? Permit me to introduce to you my 235HP LX470. It only gets 11.6 mpg. At 20/27 on a 380HP V8 motor, I'd kill for that kinda gas efficiency. You gotta be kidding if you think this 20/27 is not efficient. Wanna check out what the competition is doing ? Let's just say, not as good as this Lexus V8. And when the 430+HP 600hL gets here doing the mid-20s mpg, at a SULEV II clean burning, then what ?
  • atlas7atlas7 Posts: 126
    Question, the picture of the Black LS has a silver grille. The other pics I have seen of the LS460 have a black grille, similar to the GS models...IS the Silver Grille only available on certain models of the 460, the L, or the 600? Anyone know?
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,664
  • Kristie

    You are one hot beauty in that Lexus. Man, I kept looking at those supermodel legs. Saved the picture, zoomed it and kept looking again.

    Oac, I need a job at edmunds too. I thought it was a geekyard from planet pluto. Its shocking.

    Seriously, I am in a state of va-va voom. Are there any other supermodels working at edmunds??

    LS 460 is definitely my next car! Tonight all my doubts have been cleared. This is my next car no matter what.
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehicle_Reviews/Luxury_Cars/2007_Lexus_LS460.S18- - - 3.A10792.html

    On ride and handling:

    "Okay, now for the real stuff. How does the LS460 drive?

    Acceleration is impressive. The car has the hauling power to match the competition. The new eight-speed is incredibly smooth and under most driving conditions, shifts are imperceptible. Even on steep grades, there's no observable gear hunting.

    While we're not fans of electric steering, the system on the LS is about as good as that form gets. There's good road feel and the system is both responsive and precise.
    Both standard and air suspensions do a good job of isolating you from road harshness, while still maintaining road feel. We found ourselves pushing into corners far more aggressively than we would have with the old LS430 - and being rewarded for our effort.
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    The '07 LS460 is certain to raise interest levels, even among the most dedicated Euro-philes. And well it should. Lexus raised the bar with the original LS sedan's pricing. Now it is back with a car that challenges the competition at their own game."


    This car sounds, reads, and looks incredible.... Now Lexus hurry up and send them down here so that we, the consumers, can finally have a go at this car... I cannot wait...

    Oh WAIT !!! The article confirms what Len has been saying for sometime... a new super Lexus above the LS series coming as well.... And AWD by 2007 on the LS460
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,664
    OAC - and that's just the base suspension.
  • "...Toyota 's luxury division intends to beat the Europeans at their own game, with a sedan that is second to none in terms of features and performance - and which doesn't have to rely on bargain pricing to compete..."

    The same article says what I have been saying for months. Price the new LS 460 head-to-head with BMW 7 and Audi A8.
    lexus will do the greatest damage to its brand through

    BARGAIN OR CUT-RATE PRICING.
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    The same article says what I have been saying for months. Price the new LS 460 head-to-head with BMW 7 and Audi A8.
    lexus will do the greatest damage to its brand through


    Lexus has been planning its own marketing strategy as well, and strange but true, they seem aligned with yours Steve... Congrats...

    From autospies... Lexus' new marketing strategy in plain ol' English for the world to see...

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  • garyh1garyh1 Posts: 386
    Hi guys--

    I've been quiet for a while, but I've been following this board. I am now 800+ messages behind on the HELM board, so I don't know what's going on there, but it sounds like many of you have stopped following that as well. If true, it's a bit sad to hear. There's lots of history there.

    Anyway, it seems that Lexus is still not saying exactly what the starting price of the LS line is going to be. All this slide presentation tells me is that they are extending the upper end of the range, but we all knew this already. The question to me is what is a nicely but realistically equipped SWB LS (say like a current Modern Luxury with NAV, ML, Smartkey) going to start at? When I bought an '05, it was a $62.7K list car (which I bought for $56K OTD). What is that same well-equipped but "base" car going to go for in an '07? My guess is it will still list for under $70K - and that's consistent with the slide show $70K "breakpoint". And discount off of list will be less than it used to be - at least for a while after first release. But Lexus will still be selling a lot of LSes with a sticker below $70K, in fact the majority of its sales (the slide says they are looking for 65% SWB, and most of those will be under $70K list). They will just have much more to offer above $70K than ever before. That's where their "exclusivity" factor will come into play.

    So my bottom line is that Steve's concept is still not going to be correct; Lexus will not give up its price advantage over Audi and BMW at the low end, but will have product for people that want to spend more than they ever could before on a Lexus. Anyone want to bet against Lexus' ability to sell from the mid-60s all the way up to the 90s (or beyond with their future super car) - at least in the US?
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