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Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

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  • i have heard that lexus is planning a sports line-up like the mercedes amg's, bmw m's, or audi s.
    in magazines here in europe there were spy pics of an is460 with body kit.
    perhaps they will offer anything similar for the LS too.
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    "... magazines here in europe there were spy pics of an is460 with body kit. perhaps they will offer anything similar for the LS too."

    Do you have a link on this? I'd like to see where Lexus puts its new 4.6L motor in their smallest car, an IS, before it gets to a GS... That'd be interesting, unless if they are construing the IS460 as their M-fighter... A 380HP motor in that small 3000Ib car should do under 5s 0-60, and maybe a low 12 quarter-mile.
  • They'll remember "enthusiast" drive stick!

    Maybe. :blush:

    DrFill
  • "...they are construing the IS460 as their M-fighter"

    rumor has it that the next m3 will have 400+ hp v8,
    so i suppose, lexus will have to squeeze out some more hp's out of the v8.

    i mean the LS already has a very impressive 82,6 hp/litre.
    and with 82,9 hp per litre they could get 400 hp.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,257
    I attended my first ever auto show today (Saturday) and of course it had the be the Big One in Detroit. My son-in-Law works for Ford here in Detroit and he knew all the "ins and outs" of the show. First of all, I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Basically, every vehicle imaginable was on display. There were also quite a few concept cars. One of the most interesting such concept car was a little Toyota that reminded from something from the old cartoon show, "The Jetsons". The exterior was kind of weird (no big deal) but the interior appeared very futuristic. It almost looked like one would put it on auto pilot and drive.

    Obviously, my greatest interest was with the new Lexus LS460. It looked very impressive. But unfortunately, I think I knew more about the features of this vehicle than did the spokeswoman that gave a talk and demonstration. I asked her after her talk about the car being able to park itself and also about the "staying in the lane option" (I believe it is called LAD) and she was rather clueless about these features. She said something to the effect that Lexus has not yet made the final decision on the car's features. I then asked her when the LS600h was going to be available and she did not even know what the LS600h was. When I explained to her that it was going to be the hybrid version of the LS460, she got a hold of a gentleman that was a bit more on the know and he said that it would be available in 2007 and that it would be on display at the New York Auto Show in a couple months.

    It is now 2:30 AM EST but what the heck. I am sleepingg until Noon. I am posting this from my daughter's house in Belleville, MI.
  • garyh1garyh1 Posts: 386
    Hopefully the "spokeswoman" was at least attractive!

    So can you tell us any more about what you thought about the new LS besides "very impressive"? And did you look at the new S; if so, what did you think of the wheel flares and butt?
  • I'm not sure I understand Lexus' thinking if, as appears likely, the 2007 LS 460 will only be rear wheel drive with no option for all wheel drive.
    Each week, Lexus runs a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal extolling the virtues and necessity of AWD on the GS and IS models. Further, the LS' target MB's 2007 S Class will have an AWD version this fall.
    To only have AWD on the "Super Lexus" as mentioned on this forum makes no sense.
    I love my 2003 LS, it's by far the best car I've ever owned. I'd like to trade up to to a 2007 LS 460 but only if it has AWD. Absent that I'll seriously consider the MB S Class.
  • Let's face it. There aren't many people left with the brains of a 32-valve V8 and the beauty of a "spokesperson".

    I'm not ready for cloning! So stop asking! :P

    Bill

    Sorry, Bill, but perfection eludes Lexus again, as they choose to introduce AWD first on the Hybrid, then add it to the LS460 in 2007 for the 2008 model. Part of their strategy to introduce features over time, keeping the model fresh. The IS350 suffers the same fate, with no manual tranny.

    DrFill
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Posts: 2,257
    She was indeed attractive. As far as the 460 is concerned, I really like what they have done to its looks (especially the rear). The front end is probably still a bit more conservative looking (but nice), but I think the designers did not want to lose all continuity from the LS430. Personally, I think it looks awesome but my wife (what does she know?) thinks it is still too conservative looking but greatly improved. The looks is one thing but the technology of this vehicle is out of this world. However, I am going to wait for the 600h which will be "out of this universe".

    I don't think I am being biased here when I state that I did not like the looks of the S550. You said it yourself with the "wheel flares and butt". They look ugly. In fact, I commented to my son-in-law how those wheels look so ugly and he totally agreed.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    If you find a good looking model who is also a "car guy", it kind of doesn't work for me anyway.... They need to stay to the script, IMO.
  • How about Danica?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Good point, Mike. Good point. I still get the feeling though, at those auto shows, whether the spokesperson is male or female, that they don't know beans beyond the script. I'm more forgiving of a female however, I guess because I've never had a really good discussion about a camshaft with a woman. My favorites however, are the attractive Asian models, who just stand around the car, and don't speak at all. Ford should get some of those. Couldn't hurt. Especially aroung a 500. Maybe someone would look at the car then.
  • The only reason why we know so much about these cars is because we make it our hobby to find everything out about the cars until they come out because we are "car guys". She was just hired from some agency to look pretty and then was briefed with the most "FAQ".

    My idea is that the models shouldn't say a thing as well. If you want your questions to be answered by her, she should put her index finger over her lips, wink, and pass you a brochure.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    A treat for you Lexus guys. Some of my pics from Detroit of the LS460:

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    M
  • Good lookin' out, but you are way off on the LS460L being "out of proportion" in LWB form.

    I just recorded NBC's 2HR Auto Show Special, and they were all over that car, and the view (my first non-stilled) fairly reeks of elegance and proportion. From the profile, I cannot tell if it's LWB or not until they spin it around back! Good job, Lexus!!! ;)

    Thanks for the slick rear end, with the concept's exhaust! I wish the Germans could do that! Or maybe I don't? :blush:

    NVBanker

    I think Ford needs more than an Asian standing near their cars. A lot more.

    Are you sayin' Ford can't even run an car show display without screwing it up?

    I hear ya! LOL!!! :P

    DrFill
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    but you are way off on the LS460L being "out of proportion" in LWB form.

    Well I guess you had to be there. To my eye the LS460 looks better balanced than the LS460L.

    M
  • When the official LS600hL is released. We'll see on 11th Avenue, my friend.

    But I haven't seen a line out of place yet. I don't expect to see one either.

    DrFill
  • Here is the Lexus LS model type line up for 2007:-

    Base Model - LS460 Normal Wheel Base - Cost $65K approx.

    LWB Nodel - LS460 Long Wheel Base - Cost $71K approx.

    LWB Hybrid - LS600h - Possibly AWD - COST $85k.
  • Lexus is currently selling the LS, GS and IS in Japan. The
    number of Lexi sold to-date in Japan since August 2005 is
    four times more than they estimated.

    The LS430 is out selling BMW 7 Series two to one.
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