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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Generic, good word for it.

    I could not really find anything wrong with it, something was just missing.

    I did like how wide it was, very comfortable for 2 in the front, with a good arm rest between.

    Great car ... for my aunt.
  • vlanevlane Posts: 8
    The Audi AWD is second to none as others have posted. I have loved my A4 (99) since the day I drove it off the lot and I look forward to purchasing a newer one. Having lived in Lake Tahoe for many winters I can tell you that the Audi handles inclimate weather very well. They sizing is a bit on the small side when compared to the BMW but the road performance is where the Audi shines versus all the competition. Many of my co-workers have owned Subarus and I can safely say they do not compare to Audi's. :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The Audi AWD is second to none

    How can that even be possible?

    The A3 uses a Haldex.

    Other Audis use a Torsen.

    You can't generalize like that, because the two systems are completely different. At least specify which one you are referring to.

    Plus, if Audi thought Quattro (the Torsen kind) was so perfect they would not have changed the default power split so dramatically for the new 2009 models.

    You're buying in to the marketing hype. ;)
  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    The word is inclement.

    Inclement, not inclimate.

    You're off the island.

    We have an '07 335xi and an '08 328xi. The former is paid off, the latter has 59 payments left @ 0.9%. I reviewed a Subaru Spec B, not a bad ride, but when suggesting it to my wife, who had a '95 318ti (Roadburner knows), the response was predictable.

    I have driven mostly average cars since 1975. I don't know if I'll continue driving BMWs, but I know I've been spoiled by my 335xi. It all depends on what comes along in August 2011 when my 4 years B-t-B warranty expires. I have a very strong feeling, based on how much I look forward to every trip no matter how short, that I will find myself in a turbo-charged vehicle, and I really hope its from BMW.

    Bring on the snow!!! BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!

    xeye
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The spec.B is a nice ride, check out the R&T comparo from when it came out. It lapped quicker than the A4, 3 series, G35, MazdaSpeed6, and everyone else, too. And it had the lowest price to boot.

    And yes, it lapped quicker than the A4 Quattro.
  • Alright so, heres the deal...
    I had an AWESOME bmw x5, 4.4i, sport package, x-drive, loved it.
    It got totaled.
    SO... while i had the x5 i got a 335 rental and LOVED IT, so i was looking at used 330xi's , 06 and above, to replace the x5 just because i love the way they drive, awesome car, plus the 20/30 is a nice change from my x5s 16/22.
    I also am intrigued by the 2008 r32's, and used theyre about the same for a lot less milage and more warranty.
    I drove an a4, it was a 06 2.0t, and was really unimpressed (we have a q7 and it did not hold up to the standard set by the q), so im thinking maybe an 05 s4 would be a nice choice and would drive differently, but again, the gas milage...
    AND, the subaru sounds like an all-around good buy, but i dont know if i can see myself actually getting one. (and possibly, i could look at fx's again, i looked at em when i got my x5, but i kinda wanted to move away from the suv thing, so if i got another one its prob be an x5)
    if anyone could give my any advice or insight or opinion ill take anything i can get!! thank you guys so much!! please help i cant decide!! ive only driven the 330i, and so far ive set that as a benchmark for anything else i drive...
    Thanks for the help!!!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The R32 uses a Haldex, i.e. nothing special. Plus it's kind of pricey, IMO.

    But never mind - you loved the 335 rental, so get one of those, or maybe a 328xi.
  • bmlexusbmlexus Posts: 755
    My lease is about up for my 2007 model, which is semi loaded, so I went online and then called the my Audi sales rep I used last time. The 1st thing I asked was which model is the same feature set as mine and did Audi add Keyless Entry!!!!!!

    The Answer is only if you buy the highest price model for the keyless feature. and I asked does the highest price model come with Nav or you still have to pay 2500.00 to have that added? Nope you have to add the Nav system...

    WOW, I like my Audi but it seems what Audi see's as new state of the art features are thing lower priced models come with when you buy a higher model. BMW and Audi options pricing is insane for many of the features that should be standard equipt for the model ranges.

    Having to spend 43k for a car, and then having to pay another 2500.00 for a nav system and then 700.00 for so for bluetooth is like being at a hotel paying 5.00 for a Coke at a vending machine...


    Nice things you asked your sales guy lol.

    Sucking the rich guys, that's what they do. because they know, he'll be able to afford it.
  • Now im just down to either a 2006 bmw 330i (the xi is like 4000 more when you are buying used) or a 2005 audi s4. i think the bmw drives better, and gets better gas milage, but the audi is faster, is awd, and is a LITTLE cheaper / easier to find the way i want. So i have no idea what to do. Because both are awesome cars, i love the bmw steering and suspension...and engine. and in the audi, i love the engine. So if i was buying just on drive id get the bimmer (which im leaning towards) but i feel like the audi is the better since i ski and will probably need awd. Please help me i dont know what to do! Thank you so much!!!!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,024
    Please help me i dont know what to do! Thank you so much!!!!

    I would buy the 330i and simply order a set of winter wheels and tires from Tire Rack. I've never had any trouble getting around in snow/ice with a RWD BMW so equipped. I do the changeover myself; it takes all of @30-45 minutes. Audis are fine cars but I prefer RWD.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,911
    Did you by any chance try the G35X and/or S60R?

    For me, it came down to those 2 and the 330i. But, like you, I decided I wanted AWD. That made the Infiniti and Volvo much cheaper than the comparable bimmer. Audi wasn't on my list because I don't trust their reliability. Volvo won my personal driving comparisons (even against the 330i), but I wound up buying a G35X purely for practical reasons (cheaper, lower maintenance, better reported reliability, better resale value). I don't regret it one bit.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • Thanks roadburner, youd be happy to know that i went wit the 330. I did seriousley consider the s4, but in the end bmws steering is just so communicative and the suspension is taut yet composed, and the engine is SO smooth and linear. Great, great car. And im going to get a set of 18" blizzacks and mount them on the wheels that come with the 335 coupe with sport package, because i think they look cool on the 3 series sedan too. Thank you for your imput it really helped! By the way though, how do you do the changeover yourself do you have a lift? I dont want to have to take it up to the gas station every time i want to take the wheels off and on
  • Thanks qbrozen I did look at the g35, i didnt pursue the s60r but i did look at it briefly online, in general i dont think the car would give the driver as much feedback as the other two would. In the end i went with the 330, and im planing on getting snow tires (it only snows 6 or 7 days a year here anyway), i just thought the g35 was a little coarse compared with the bimmer, it was a great car dont get my wrong, just not as sophisticated with the way it drove. That car (the g35) is no doubt the more reliable choice though, youll be able to take it to 250000 miles easily if you take care of it. Have fun with your G thats a great car and thank you again for the advice
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,024
    Thanks roadburner, youd be happy to know that i went wit the 330. I did seriousley consider the s4, but in the end bmws steering is just so communicative and the suspension is taut yet composed, and the engine is SO smooth and linear.

    Great choice!

    By the way though, how do you do the changeover yourself do you have a lift? I dont want to have to take it up to the gas station every time i want to take the wheels off and on

    I use a Snap-on aluminum jack and stands. I just change one wheel at a time, and it still takes less than an hour. Mark the location of each tire LF, RF, etc., so you can put them on the same corner when you reinstall them. Also, put some anti-seize on each hub before you put put the wheel on and always use a torque wrench to ensure that the lug bolts are properly tightened.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,911
    i just thought the g35 was a little coarse compared with the bimmer, it was a great car dont get my wrong, just not as sophisticated with the way it drove.

    Oh, I'd have to agree. I mean, there is no free lunch. The G is considerably cheaper for a reason.

    Congrats on your choice. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Last time I checked to get a G with AWD you had to settle for an auto trans, is that still the case?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 16,911
    Yes.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '08 Town&Country

  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    We received at least 16" of snow this weekend. I brushed the snow off my 328xi and 335xi and drove them both out of my 75' driveway. No hesitation, no protest, ZERO wheelspin. I am completely satisfied. My next car?

    Hello BMW AWD? Just make sure it's turbocharged.

    Any questions?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Any questions?

    You didn't high center? You probably don't have 6" of ground clearance.

    Don't get overconfident.
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