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Buick Lucerne

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  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    I mean all Buick's of the past except the LaCrosse. I see the Lucerne as a replacement for 5 cars. The Bonneville, the 98/88 and the LeSabre/Park. The CXS is a much better handling and firmer car than any Buick ever was but not as firm as the Bonneville. the CXL replaces the LeSabre/88/98 but will have a firmer more controlled ride. It will not be the boulevard ride of the past. But I need to drive and see how it is. It will not be a floaty car. I hear the magnetic ride is amazing. Perhaps that will be the most comfortable ride of all?

    Most foriegn cars tilt at the firewall. This is a much cheaper way of building them and you will see the newer, cheaper GM cars do it this way (G6). This is not the kind of wheel you tilt up every time you get out of the car. You set it once and leave it.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    The "Beyond precision" campaign is being created by McCann Erickson Worldwide, the agency that dreamt up the "Dream up" and Earl campaigns along with all other Buick campaigns since 1958. Although the budget for the campaign is not being disclosed, General Motors spends about $150
    million to $200 million each year to advertise Buick models in major media.

    The campaign is to begin on Monday with television commercials for the 2006 Lucerne sedan. Executives at Buick hope the Lucerne, which replaces two models, the LeSabre and Park Avenue, will steal sales from competitors like the Toyota Avalon.

    The initial commercials for the Lucerne take a confident tone, playing up features like quieter interiors and heated windshield-washer fluid, which are intended to woo the finicky target audience: affluent drivers ages 40
    to 60 with "high expectations," as Margaret Brooks, marketing director for Buick in Detroit, put it, "who demand proof to consider any product" before buying. (Currently, the average age of a Buick sedan driver is 63).
  • YES, thanks for noticing tilt wheels that tilt at the firewall. I hate them. I am 6' and have long legs. I don't think I could ever have a car that way. I checked the tilt of the Lucerne and it is the kind that pivots near the turn signal switch. I would rather have one like that than one with tilt and telescope that had a long pivot.
  • jb7227jb7227 Posts: 86
    Picking up my new CX Ming Blue w/cashmere on monday. Saw it today at the dealer. Very interested to hear how harmon/kardon stereo sounds, and how the CX rides. My dealer let me take a V6 CXL out for a test drive - very smooth ride - I can only imagine how smooth the CX is since supposedly it has the slightly softer FE1 suspension. Unlike some, I actually like the softer ride. My previous "benchmarks" for ride smoothness were my 2002 LeSabre and my 2003 Park Ave. MSRP on my car is $29230.00 - I paid $27600.00. Im sure I will be seeing the car for $2000 less in the spring, but that's the penalty one pays for wanting to be the first on the block. Dealer said I will be the first Lucerne sold; he has 15 on order and 3 others on the lot which came in with mine - 1 CXS and 2 CXL's. He feels that the CXS will be the big seller; I would assume the CXL V-8 will be the best seller. Interestingly, he said most CXL and CX buyers chose the 40/20/40 bench seat instead of the buckets. The cloth upholstery in the CX is much higher quality than my LeSabre Custom, and the headliner material feels like it came from a $ 50000 car. What a difference from the usual "mouse fur" headliner of the last few years. Let's hope for us Buick fans out there that the Lucerne is a huge hit!
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Congrats.. let us know how you like it.
  • FYI - I had sent a feedback email at least two weeks ago to alert Buick to the paint-charge issue. I also indicated concern that there was no ability to build a CXL-V8 with heated windshield fluid or StabiliTrak. The brochure indicates this as possible, and I have seen at least the heated fluid optioned on one real Lucerne. One would think that somebody at Buick would have tried to build a car on their site and have noticed the problem(s). Or at least reacted in response to feedback that they actually solicit at the bottom of the page. It's not so much important as it is irritating. On the other hand, it's not great marketing strategy to let people build cars on that site that indicate a cost $1K higher than it should. I know GM has problems, but doesn't anyone test this stuff?

    On a more positive note, I think the Lucerne looks great in the flesh - I haven't had the chance to sit in or drive one yet, and look forward to everyone's mini-reviews. My dealer is indicating that they are only ordering the bench seat version because "that's what the LeSabre customer wants". Oh my.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Unfortunately GM is a big company and has many layers. They also get hundreds of emails. Not an excuse. I will find out what the issue is and get back with you.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,713
    Sat in a couple today. The interior is tightly fitted. The feel of the seats is good. I liked the looks of the black Northstar CXL model with the chrome wheels! The dealer doesn't have any CXS in yet.

    The shape of the car is beautiful without the piggish look of the avalon since it's built on a narrower-looking base--it looks like a Camry again with a larger car plumped up on top of it. The weird taillights look strange on avalon. The taillights on Lucerne look great. It just doesn't look like Buick taillights anymore!!! Guess it's the new Buick.

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  • sv7887sv7887 Posts: 351
    Hi all,
    Everything I've read about the Lucerne has been good so far. I only have one question: When will it have the 6 speed? It's great to have people on this board sharing their first hand experiences!

    I wish I could get one, but my wife will kill me. I just bought a Ls430 last year, and there is no way she's going to let me get another car! I probably could post on the chronic car buyers anonymous board too!

    Looks like GM has given us a winner this time!
    SV
  • Just a note for you guys... I just picked up my black on black Lucerne CXS. It has every option except the cooled seats (wasnt ordered with them) :confuse: . This car is OUTSTANDING!!! I traded in a 2001 Audi A6 2.7t with the sport package for this car. The handling of this car is ON PAR with my AUDI which says ALOT for a buick!! As far as build quality... the interior fit and finish is everybit as good as my audi was and the car has a much better ride!! The car is INFINITELY more quiet than any car i test drove in (NEW A6, new avalon, Es330)!! I can't believe I own and American car again!! Its that good!! The v-8 rumble won me over against the avalon and a6 :D . The car is everybit as fast as any of the others as well! Plus the price (my brother is a gm emply) at 34700 plus tax was great to boot. Even at 38000 msrp the car is a great value compared to the others!! As you can tell I'm very excited about this car.. First american car i've owned in ten years... :shades:

    Take care guys!!
    bob
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 643
    Congrats on the new ride!

    How is the audio system with those Harman/Kardon speakers?

    Is there any wind noise at highway speeds?
  • sv7887sv7887 Posts: 351
    Bob,
    Congrads on getting a Lucerne!! I too own import cars at the moment. It would be great if you could let us know about your Lucerne experience when time allows. I don't blame you for being excited! This is the first American car that has caught my eye in a long time!

    Hope the Lucerne treats you well!
    SV
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,713
    Eye-catching was the black Lucerne with the chrome wheels in the dealer's service area. It looked like a European car or Lexus style car.

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  • finfin atlantaPosts: 586
    Whatever you can tell the forum from an owner's viewpoint about the car will be appreciated. My search will begin this April, probably, and this is the first offering from GM I have considered in a long time (been driving Avalons since '98).

    Buick may have a winner here. Drove many of them for 25 years, up to 1990. Then went foreign like a lot of other people. Thanks.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,713
    The only unusual thing is that the suspensions vary among all three levels. The lower seems to be aimed at base LeSabre drivers just wanting good ride. The middle level has improved quality of struts and the top has the electromagnetic control struts. Do I have that right?

    I would want to test drive all three levels or at least the lower two to see if there's a difference in control I care about.

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  • jb7227jb7227 Posts: 86
    Picked up my new CX yesterday (Ming Blue/Cashmere). Here are first impressions (about 90 miles on it so far):

    Quiet tuning much more effective than in LaCrosse - wind and road noise almost non-existant. 3800 V-6 seems smoother at idle than 2002 LeS. Fuel economy on 70 mile highway trip at 68-70 mph showed 28.9 - but I am curious to see what the mileage will be after a few thousand miles. Previous Buick V-6's owned (2002 LeSabre and 2003 Park Avenue) were excellent. Cloth upholstery is much higher quality (both feel and fit) than before. Color combination is beautiful - in fact, after seeing my car come off the truck (I ordered it early Oct) - the dealer put in orders for 3 more identically equipped. Havent had a chance to try CD in Harmon/Kardon system, but stereo/XM sounds great, and feature that shows presets is neat - combines all 3 bands. Only one detraction - steering wheel seems bigger than it has to be, tho I can tell they made it that way so one could see instruments. Exterior quality fit/finish is superb - Buick is correct in that regard. Even 16-in wheels look great. Trunk space is down a little from LeSabre, although the trunk is not as shallow as the Park Ave's was. Controls feel substantial - especially climate controls and power windows. More to come as I put some miles on!
  • Just a few more comments on my CXS.. The quiet tuning is incredible. The other day i was on expressway doing 85 mph in HEAVY winds and the car is absolutely silent. Much quieter than my A6 was thats for sure. The stereo works great! It has a very nice soundstage around the driver. The controls are very well placed as well. My only minor complaint is that the speedometer is a little tough to see in daylight as it is pretty far recessed into the dash. The doors have that solid THUNK as they close etc. GM really payed attention to the details (stainless door sills, etc.). I didnt drive the other models so i can say about their handling but I couldn't be happier with the handling of the CXS! No floaties whatsover! I've already had three sets of people ask me what kind of car i was driving! You should of seen their faces when i told them a BUICK!! :surprise: .. They all thought it was a lexus! Way to go GM!!

    bob
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    I saw the first ads for the lucerne on TV today. One was about the 1 millimeter gaps between the panels and the other was about the heated washer fluids. One commercial shows the CXL model with the 17" rims and the other is the CXS. I'm glad to see they are focusing on the features in the ads, that's what Buick needs to do. This car looks much better than the Avalon.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Saw my first Lucerne today. Very nice, really stands out on the road and looks much more substantial than the LaCrosse. LaCrosse needs the Lucerne grill!

    Anyway, I was very impressed. I'm sure the guy driving just took delivery, it was very shiny and clean.
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