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Buick Lucerne

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  • kfrielkfriel Posts: 31
    I'm keenly interested in the Lucerne. Love the styling. To my eye it resembles (vauguely) the Maserati Quattroporte coach lines.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    I read th review in C&D today and they were generally positve. I was surprised by their praise for the interior, they were really loving it. They called the exterior bland and derivative, which I dont agree with. I was glad to see 0-60 time was under 7secs which is where I felt it should've been all along. The Lucerne interior looks much better with the Nav screen so I'll be glad when it becomes available.
  • I took a quick look at the C and D review at a magazine rack...I thought the review's author was a knucklehead. I'd give him a hint: just review the damn car, don't continue stereotypes. Maybe I'm a contrarian, but I'm 41, act like I'm 21 (sometimes)and my wife is a former model (now doctor) and, gee, I LIKE Buicks. Oh, and I've lived all over the world in big trendy cities and I actually have hair gel in my bathroom and I've hung out at Hollywood parties. Here's a secret: They're reliable, fast and the insurance is a bargain. I used to live in LA and I've seen enough black Beemers to last a lifetime...
  • I gotta ask. I see that expression all the time - and I don't know what they're talking about. What is a black Beemer? Cliff
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    To my eye it resembles (vauguely) the Maserati Quattroporte coach lines.

    Perhaps squinting really hard after two doses of scotch... :D
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    What is a black Beemer?

    I see them all the time. A black BMW. Do they come in other colors? ;)
  • kfrielkfriel Posts: 31
    evandro, Preferably a single malt! As for the "Black Bimmer" My understanding is that is the classic "I don't really know anything about cars nor care enough to look into it much but my neighbor has one so perhaps I should have one too" car.
  • mldj98mldj98 Posts: 378
    algee,

    I believe I feel your pain (literally).....so am I to assume you have an Avalon? And if so, what year?
    Are you having any issues with your front seats? Seems like no matter what I do.....how I adjust the seats.....I have lower back pain the longer I drive my Avalon. It really ticks me off and surprised me......so we may be in the same boat......"What a mistake I made".....sounds very similiar to what I feel at this moment!
  • Exactly. Sorry, I'll call it a Bimmer insteed of Beemer. Whatever. Go Beverly Hills and play Find The Car that's Not a Black BMW or Mercedes.

    Kinda scary. Our entertaiment business, marching in paranoid lockstep....
  • algeealgee Posts: 78
    I have a 2006 Avalon Limited. Those front seats are horrible and I have the same problem as you.

    THe shift hesitation bothers me too. If you have an emergency situation and need to punch it, you loose about 1-2 seconds while it makes up its mind to go.

    I am now beginning to hate this car and that is the first time in my life with lots of cars I felt that way.

    Hope all works out well for you

    Al
  • jmw4jmw4 Posts: 67
    I looked at the new Avalon before I bought my LaCrosse CXS. The Avalon seats were a major show stopper for me. The seat bottoms are very short unless you get the optional seat extenders. Toyota actually shortened the length of the seats from the previous styled version and took away the height adjustment on the power pasenger seat. The LaCrosse has at least for me very comfortable seats. I sat in the Lucerne and those seats are even better.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    The seats rated very highly in a quantitative comparison to the old Camry and Lexus 300. The only complaints I have heard are the bottom length is a bit too long for those with shorter legs. Always a compromise that has to be worked out. Looks like Avalon spent the extra on the optional seat extenders. Often these add ons are less comfortable. How did the seat bottom extenders feel?
  • rake2rake2 Posts: 120
    Wow, that stinks. Sorry to hear it. Drove my CXS from Philly to Pittsburgh and back, about 5 hours one way, without any problems like that. Of course, had my back started bothering me, I could have just put the heated seats on to try to loosen it up.

    Only complaints I have are minor. Don't like how wide the turning radius is, and the "coin holder" is a pain to deal with when you're actually driving. Even my teenage nephews love this car, almost as much as the convertible Camaro SS I own.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    I just read in the March 2006 issue of Car and Drive magazine how the new 2006 Buick Lucerne tests out at 68 db when the car is driven at 70 mph.

    GM has stated that the car is very quiet but this reading is not significantly impressive in view of the fact that a number of the Lucerne's competitors such as the new 2006 Lincoln Zephyr and the always impressive Acura TL are also very quiet.

    So just how does this reading distinguish the new Lucerne from the competition?

    In view of all the hype regarding how quiet the Lucerne is, the 70 mph reading should be substantially lower.

    Does anyone who has the new Lucerne CXS think it is quieter than the 68 db reading would suggest?
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Does anyone who has the new Lucerne CXS think it is quieter than the 68 db reading would suggest?

    How do you have any idea what 68 db even means? I worked in the noise area for years and 68 db means nothing to me unless you take into context the type of noise that is being produced.

    GM has stated that the car is very quiet

    From what I have read from independent reviewers the car is very quiet.
  • jmw4jmw4 Posts: 67
    The Avalon seat extender helped provide more support for the thigh, but that only helps the driver. I don't think there is an extender for the passenger, plus I believe it is only available on the expensive limited model. Toyota products in general have short seat bottoms relative to most American and Honda/Acura products. I think it comes down to whatever one is used to. The Lucerne/Lacrosse seats are very comfortable, though the Lacrosse seat could use a little more side support.
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 588
    After sitting in the Lucerne seats... the bucket seats with console are far less comfortable than the seats in my 2003 Avalon. The Lucerne split seat option with no console has a much better feel and would be my personal choice if the sides were supportive enough.. did not have time for the test drive while at the dealer and it was raining hard anyway. Fit-and-finish looked great.
  • I have a black CXS and all i can say is it is the quietest overall car I have ever ridden in. This includes LS430's, A6's (my tradein), avalons, etc. It's almost eery quite. The only sound that you notice is the throaty burble of the V8! :D

    Hope this helps!!
    bob
  • mldj98mldj98 Posts: 378
    algee,

    Thanks for your response, as well with everyone who responded.....I can tell you this....I have owned MANY cars in my day.....and this is the first time I can honestly say that I have had any type of seat issue...especially to the point of wanting to get rid of the car.....my commute is 45-60 minutes one way and by the time I get to work or get home after the commute my lower back is really sore.....no matter how I try and adjust the seat and the lumbar support.....to me the lumbar support feels like a pointed spear that is being pushed into my back.....instead of a somewhat rounded lumbar.....
    Anyway....I am going to get into another vehicle as soon as I can.....this stuff is for the birds! I have driven the Lucerne......and I must admit.....the car was real nice! In other words, this is no longer your daddy's Buick!
    Good luck to you in your search for trying to solve your problem.....as it sounds.....we both have the same type of issues!
  • rake2rake2 Posts: 120
    I don't know what that number should me in comparison either. I do know that this is by far the quietest car I have ever been in, by far. At first it was strange at how quiet it was, although I've now gotten used to it.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    I don't know what that number should me in comparison either. I do know that this is by far the quietest car I have ever been in, by far. At first it was strange at how quiet it was, although I've now gotten used to it.

    Did you drive the LaCrosse and was it as quiet?
  • Noise: Very low in Lucerne. 62vettefp is absolutely right. dB means nothing unless it's defined by frequency. Get a low enough frequency and most people probably couldn't hear a 68 dB noise. Get a much higher frequency (twig snap, say) and your ears would pick up at 30 dB. Humans are designed to avoid getting eaten by other animals. The ears are very selective. They filter out low frequency and hone in on mid-high frequency. dB 'tests' as measured by car magazines are generally worthless.

    To my human ears, the Lucerne is very quiet, quieter than the Avalon.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    Very true. I subscribe to a foreign car magazine and besides the dB, they also perform a spectrum evaluation to pass judgment on how noisy a car is.
  • hi i am thinking of buying a lucerne, as i have 147,000 miles on my 1997 olds aurora...but my olds is still running great so i can wait a while.....i am wondering if anyone knows when navigation will be available on the lucerne, and what improvements might occur with the 2007, such as a 5 speed transmission, 4 wheel drive option etc...if anyone knows please respond...thanks...
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Not sure of the changes but I really doubt the 6 speed will be on the 2007 model. There is also no way it will become 4 wheel drive on this architecture. Nav is supposed to be available later this spring.

    Glad to hear you like your Olds!
  • Can anyone tell me where the Driver Information Center is on the Lucerne, and what information it presents? I've gotten very attached to the ones in the Pontiacs I've owned including my present '04 Bonneville GXP. Lucerne is on my radar as a replacement in a couple years, and while I could live without the HUD (although I like it a lot), I'd not be happy if the Driver Information Center was not at least as good as the Bonneville's.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,530
    Some displays (from the owners manual) available:

    Fuel Range
    Press the trip/fuel button until FUEL RANGE displays.
    This display shows the approximate number of
    remaining miles (mi) or kilometers (km) the vehicle can
    be driven without refueling.
    The fuel range estimate is based on an average of the
    vehicle’s fuel economy over recent driving history
    and the amount of fuel remaining in the fuel tank.
    This estimate will change if driving conditions change.
    For example, if driving in traffic and making frequent
    stops, this display may read one number, but if
    the vehicle is driven on a freeway, the number may
    change even though the same amount of fuel is in the
    fuel tank. This is because different driving conditions
    produce different fuel economies. Generally, freeway
    driving produces better fuel economy than city driving.
    If your vehicle is low on fuel, the FUEL LEVEL LOW
    message will be displayed. See “FUEL LEVEL LOW”
    under DIC Warnings and Messages on page 3-56
    for more information.
    Average Economy
    Press the trip/fuel button until AVG ECONOMY displays.
    This display shows the approximate average miles
    per gallon (mpg) or liters per 100 kilometers (L/100 km).
    This number is calculated based on the number of
    mpg (L/100 km) recorded since the last time this menu
    item was reset. To reset AVG ECONOMY, press and
    hold the set/reset button. The display will return to zero.
    Instantaneous Economy
    Press the trip/fuel button until INST ECONOMY displays.
    This display shows the current fuel economy at a
    particular moment and will change frequently as driving
    conditions change. This display shows the instantaneous
    fuel economy in miles per gallon (mpg) or liters per
    100 kilometers (L/100 km). Unlike average economy,
    this screen cannot be reset.
    Average Speed
    Press the trip/fuel button until AVERAGE SPEED
    displays. This display shows the average speed of the
    vehicle in miles per hour (mph) or kilometers per
    hour (km/h). This average is calculated based on the
    various vehicle speeds recorded since the last reset of
    this value. To reset the value, press and hold the
    set/reset button. The display will return to zero.

    Also:

    Oil life – various warnings, etc.

    Does this help?
    - Ray
    Addicted to the HUD as well as the DIC . . .
  • Yep. Thanks! Where is the DIC located on the Lucerne? I've never been too happy with the location on the Bonneville -- you have to peek around the right side of the steering wheel to see all of it. Not too good for trying to keep one's eyes mostly on the road.

    Bill
  • thank you....62veteefp...
  • rake2rake2 Posts: 120
    I did not, although I understand from my brother, who works at a dealer, that the LaCrosse is also very quiet.
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