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Buick Lucerne

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  • sarge12
    I am having the same problem. Could you indicate what was done to correct the problem.
    cblair
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    I'd also like to read details. I'm sure it could help others as well!
  • Sorry, Car leads to the right and has some vibration. Picks up alot of road sound. Nothing like my former Park Ave. I was told that it was the European "feel". Since owning the car if given a choice I drive my wife's Camry. I was thinking about new tires but hate the expense if it is something else.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Camry suspension is about as close to an old style Buick out there anymore except for the base LaCrosse and Lexus ES330.

    the Lucerne has a tighter suspension than the Camry.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    I was asking sarge for info on how they fixed the symptoms he had. I'm not interested in your Camry.
  • PLEASE! Let us know how this problem was fixed. I have had my 2006 Buick Lucerne in the shop 4 times for the terrible drifting to the right. Each time they rotate or put new tires, find nothing wrong in the specs for the front end and return it with the same problem. Just returned from the shop yesterday with 3 new tires and drifts (almost pulls) to the right worse than before. Told service manager I was going to bring it to a front end shop and pay myself and was told to let them know the cost. Could this be one for the lemon law? Let us know how your Lucerne problem was resolved.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    I've noticed something new in the tire business. The Hunter Road Force 9700 balancers that helped find the poor tire quality from some companies and models and fix the stiff frame vibration on H-bodies and C-bodies in 2000- on a few years...

    Now I see that there Hunter can check for lead built into tires...

    I wonder if that's a new symptom of tire quality not keeping up with car quality and you're finding it... read through the description of how they match up tires on the same axle that cancel each other's lead to give a better drive.

    The call it straighttrack...Hunter 9700

    The Accord got comments in the discussion in 03 and on with some lead problems. Same for the Camry.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    I didn't word my comment very well. I meant I wanted to know what Sarge's car had in the way of service to fix his problem, which may be related to your problem. I've heard so many people bragging about their foreign brand car that the Camry is not what I wanted to hear about, rather I want to know what is the symptom the Buick has fixed...
  • vic10vic10 Posts: 188
    Just out of curiosity, is this pulling a function of road crown? I own a 300C and there have been numerous posts there for pulling to the right. I notice that on a 2-lane road, when I pull out to pass, my pulling to the right becomes a pulling to the left, clearly related to road crown. Also, what is referred to as "improved road feel" to me translates to hyper sensitivity to the road surface. Has Buick also "improved road feel" and the result is this sensitivity to road surface?? Also, for the Chrysler, many reported the problems were strongly related to the Conti tires, and disappeared when Goodyears were installed. You certainly shouldn't have to custom match tires to wheel location. If so, what happens when you rotate tires?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    Without driving an individual car just as you describe to test it on the left side of the curved road surface and on the right side it's difficult to analyze whether it's the wonderful European feel some thing every car should have or if it's being too sensitive.

    I think tires make a huge difference. The road noise one poster mentioned can be from a tough tire tread rolling. I had one tire that was great other than on the interstate overpasses in downtown Dayton; they screamed when they hit that particular texturing which was done in the concrete on the last major resurfacing a decade or so ago. They did an epoxy pavement or something like that for extended life.

    A few of the cars that I recall in the Accord redesign had the cradle shifted and that changed the characteristic lead. I'd have to search back through posts now to be sure I'm recalling correctly.

    The tires are matched on the same axle; when you rotate both fronts go to the back and both backs go to the front so they're still matched. Ideally tires don't have an lead; I thought that was an indication the belt was off center slightly.
  • llt2llt2 Posts: 2
    I posted #1756. The shop adjusted the caster to its max then played with the camber until it didn't drift to the right. Back in the old days alignment shops used to do this as routine. It seems that now days if the numbers fall within specs they do nothing. I'm still fighting with GM about the steering system being loose. It has only been one year.
  • jpstax1jpstax1 Posts: 197
    I just found out from my local Buick dealer that the 2008 LaCrosse Super will be getting the 5.3 liter engine plus a heavy duty trans and suspension to handle the 303 ponies.

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Preview/styleId=100704034
  • Does anyone know if this accessory is "plug and play?"
    I have a 2007 CXL and would like to add the remote start capability. The owners manual noted that some models are "remote start ready."

    http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/accessoriesjsp/accessorydetail.jsp?make=buick&model=- lucerne&year=2006&detail=06_LUC_80RSJ073&sid=
  • sarge12sarge12 Posts: 3
    Well here it is Gentlemen.
    Dealer was not able to resolve the pull and drifting after (3) separate alignments, and installing Michelin plus tires. The tires did assist in the drifting , but had no effect on pull. Dealer sent me to get another alignment at a shop of my choice. I went to another but larger dealership. When making appointment with new dealer they were already aware with the Lucerne pull problem and assured me that they could repair the problem. I do not know all the technical repairs they made but the caster and camber was critically out of GM specks on the before alignment read out. The shop spent 3.5 hours alongateing adjustment slots to get the proper alignment. They took it out on the road and came back to shop to make minor adjustments to correct road pull. The test was to determine road lean to the right or left and to be equal steering pull. Yes, all vehicles will favor road lean , but must be minimum and equal to the left or right.
    I have driven my Lucerne on a couple of long trips now and have been 100% satisfied with the results.
    My advise is to change dealerships to someone who knows what they are doing.
    Hope this helps, Sarge
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Coould you call the 2nd dealer and get the bulletin number fot the repair from them and post it here?

    thanks
  • I'm new to this site. I've been reviewing all the previous post about "Steering pull and wandering". I need to know if this problem is specific to one particular Buick model.
    I have a 2006 CXL V8 and my steering is fine - it holds the road on any street condition (even bumps), without even holding the steering wheel.
    Are the problems been posted only related to 2007 models???
  • sarge12sarge12 Posts: 3
    No GM bulletin, just a experienced alignment technicion and shop foeman who were willing to correct the problem. I have the alignment print out after job was completed. All specs were close to the center of GM recommendations with only one exception. The caster on the left wheel was set to 5.2 degree, instead of recommended 6 degrees. Right is 6.1.
    Be glad to talk to you or personal e mail if you post info.
    Sarge
  • lostwrenchlostwrench Posts: 288
    Oh, c'mon. The Buick Lucerne gives you only a 4 star rating on side impacts. 4 stars! So many other cars give you 5 star front AND 5 star side impact ratings.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    But we have to compare the weights to get it in the right category. Four star, 5 star, smatter star. Means little, if anything, during an actual crash. Let me see... Do I want to be in a Civic which gets 5 stars from simulated crashes or do I want to be in a larger Lucerne? I'll take the Lucerne.

    It is my opinion the companies build to the crash tests specifics but the same cars would be difficient at different angles and different scenarios.
  • lostwrenchlostwrench Posts: 288
    I assumed everyone knew that crash test ratings for comparison of vehicles are for vehicles within 250 pounds of each other. Certainly you don't compare a Lucerne with a Civic, that's common sense. (The Civic has a 4 star side impact rating, not 5). Still, the Lucerne, a vehicle of that size and weight, even with side air bags, getting only 4 stars in the side impact test, is disappointing.
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