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Toyota Tacoma vs Nissan Frontier

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  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Please disregard my last post to you. I managed to locate the Edmunds "Editors Most Wanted". Interesting to note that the Dodge Dakota won last year with the Tacoma getting honourable mention. For 06 the Tacoma gets top honour with the Frontier achieving honourable mention.
    I also think they're both great trucks!
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Actually, I was asking Wooddorker about the "Most Wanted" at Edmunds. I am already aware of mycarstats.com. That's a site that I look over periodically.
    Thanks all the same.
  • Make: TOYOTA
    Model: TACOMA
    Type: PASSENGER CAR
    Year: 2005
    Complaint Number: 10116155
    Summary:
    2005 TACOMA PRERUNNER. AUTOMATIC-PACKAGE 2. HAD NEW VEHICLE SURGE 3 DIFFERENT TIMES AFTER PURCHASE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH. LAST TIME SENT ME INTO MIDDLE OF BUSY INTERSECTION. THIS WAS TUESDAY MARCH 29, 2005. CALLED DEALER AND THEY SENT A TOW TRUCK. ALL PEOPLE AT DEALERSHIP HAVE BEEN VERY NICE, BUT SAY THEY HAVE FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. FOUND OUT LAST WEEK, THAT A LADY ON A TEST DRIVE HAD A CAR SURGE THROUGH THE SHOWROOM WINDOW AT SAME DEALERSHIP. I HAVE NO FAITH THAT THE VEHICLE WON'T DO THIS AGAIN. I AM REFUSING TO PICK VEHICLE UP AT DEALERSHIP, EVEN THOUGH I PAID CASH.
  • quess both Toyota and Nissan suck big time. Long live Ranger and Dakota...(too bad Chevy had to choose the name "Colorado" for a piece of feces).
  • You crack me up. I wouldn't have time to copy and paste all of the Dakota and Ranger complaints. :-)
    Actually, I didn't look at them.
    The point is that there is going to be a lemon, or spotty problems with pretty much any vehicle.
    Sorry you have had difficulty with your Frontier. I've had good luck with mine, fortunately. I did drive it on a really bad gravel road that had serious wash-board, and it never came out of any gear, and I was in 2nd for quite a while.
  • ...so why does it happen with 2 transmissions and one off the lot..?
    may I add...I read this site and all I see is "mine is bigger than yours". I don't care...all I want is the best I can buy for my money from a manufacturer that cares..? Just like politics..I don't care if they are Republicans or Democrats. If they lie/screw up...get rid of them/try them/convict them/put them away.
    Nissan has a poor design and sooner or later you and others will notice it. Sorry, look at the fine print...you are not covered for "normal wear and tear" under your warranty. If you want that coverage get an extended warrenty fron Warrenty Direct.
    Gee..maybe qwert13 doesn't know how to drive a manual transmission. My 1989 Civic is on its original transmission. It's on its second clutch...I only got 170,000 miles on the first one (documented). Quess that proves I don't know how to drive a manual...?
    The last time my Civic was on a road that the Frontier pooped out of gear..?...yesterday, today, and tomorrow......
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    From my experience, Nissan's drivetrains have been, as Toyota's have, bullet proof. It sounds like you've run into a bad lot. Good luck with yours!
  • Hey drive56,

    Seems you're more of the objective type vs woodman who would rather die than admit that maybe there is an issue with a vehicle he loves..? Never, never "love" a piece of metal/plastic/components. You love you wife, kids, parents, family, friends, pets (especially dogs).
    I can take any Frontier ('05 or '06) with a manual transmission and pop it out of gear. I "learned" how to do it after the dealership asked me if I could reproduce it.
    Take your Frontier to washboard, go 20 mpg in 2nd gear and accelerate on the washboard. Watch the excessive vibration of the gear shift. Will it happen every time...no...but with practice, yes, as I found out. But realize that what you are doing creates "abnormal wear and tear". You have ball bearings/springs that are meant to hold the transmission in gear. They don't, allowing the transmission to pop out. This creates wear and tear on those components, meaning that the next time it will be easier to pop out of gear. I'm full of fececs..? Go talk to a transmission mechanic.
    ...And..if I'm full of feces, why did Nissan offer me $3000?
  • ...so I should be happy with a piece of feces because all the others are double feces..? Personally, I don't think that I or you or anyone should be happy with the smell of feces. If these clowns continue to produce feces then maybe we all should tell the world about it and make them accountable. They pay engineers 6 figures to design this crap..? Hope you're happy in your litter box.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Not necessary...

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • badnessbadness Posts: 242
    you should get at least 24.5mpgs on a long trip,thats what I avg.it kicks butt.
    but I will get 20-21 rd.trip from High way to city,not bad.
    IT seems as It breaks in it getts better I've noticed, I have 5.000 on my truck,I baby the heck out of it ,slow take offs and and easy breaking, the General tires aren't that bad either.
  • time2time2 Posts: 25
    I've got an 05 Fronty 4x4 CC Auto. It has been awesome! A lady I work with tells me her husbands 05 Tacoma has been a huge disappointment. Many problems. He's now trading it in for an 06 Frontier.
  • ustazzafustazzaf Posts: 311
    Of course he is. That is why people are having to wait for the next truck to drop off Tacomas just so they can see one. Those dissapointing Tacomas are so bad that they can't keep them on the lots. Toyota didn't get to be #1 in the world by selling junk. Nissan probably has a quality product (haven't driven one lately), but making up stuff in an attempt to dog the king makes you look bad. If indeed someone is dissapointed with their Tacoma after a year, it doesn't say much for their future choices either. If the truck is too small, it was the same size when they tested it. If it is to gutless, it had no more power when they tested it. If it is a pain to have to shift, it was not a automatic when it was tested. If there is real problems with the truck, there are lemon laws. If you go to another lot after buying and find something you like better, it is still your fault that you didn't shop around or wait for the next model year. If the truck is a heap, use the law. If you blew it, be a man and admit it.
  • critter1critter1 Posts: 104
    They had concept vechicle at Jan Shows, looked awesome for Off Road. But Jeep reliability is an issue!
  • Tacomas are on the lots as much as Frontiers are, around here.
  • 2005lekc2005lekc Posts: 145
    It is the same here in the OKC area. About the only time we have a real shortage issue on any vehicle here is when a new hot model is first introduced.

    This did not happen for me on either the Frontier nor the Tacoma.

    OkieScot
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Same thing here in Victoria, B.C. I drive by both lots more than once a week and have always spotted 3 or more of each on either lot. I'll add though, that there are definitely more Tacomas on our local roads.
  • As of November 2005, 153,000 Tacomas and 66,000 Frontiers have been sold YTD '05 in North America.

    This includes all body and drivetrain styles. The sources I Googled didn't break things out by door count, engines, etc...

    November saw aproximately 13,500 Tacomas, 6,000 Frontiers, and 5,700 Honda Ridgelines (a record) leave the lot.
  • The Frontier won the "Tough Truck Test" link below so I sent Edmunds a message and ask why they still considered the Tacoma the Most Wanted in its class (small/mid-size pickups).


    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=107904/pageId=66419

    Edmunds response is below.

    Thanks for your question. The Frontier beat the Tacoma to win our 2005 Tough Truck Shootout, but the Tacoma topped the Frontier to take the crown in our 2005 Midsize Truck Comparison Test.

    What's the difference between these two tests? Well, the Midsize Truck Comparison was designed to single out the pickups best suited for the average consumer. The Tough Truck Shootout was designed to select the truck best suited for a consumer with a more extreme set of needs. As we mentioned in its introduction, the Shootout wasn't concerned with "calculating price points and comparing features lists;" instead, the aim of this test was to "see how these trucks tow up hills, run on the sand and race over washboard fire roads."

    The Frontier won top prize in the Shootout on the strength of its ruggedness. But overall, we think the Tacoma is a stronger choice for most consumers. This is why it won the Midsize Truck Comparison, and why it was our pick for 2006 Editors' Most Wanted.

    Warren Clarke
    Content Editor
    Edmunds.com

    I'm quite please with my 05 Nismo. I certainly push it to the limits and it does fine. Waiting to see how it does in the snow we may get this weekend.

    81 Trekker
  • I've always advocated getting skid plates on all critical areas if you ever think you plan to go off road. (Based this on my 25 years of experience driving off-road with primarily 4Runners that come standard with skid plates.) Last year, we got an 04 Armada that came with 2 skid plates (don't recall which two). I had the dealer order the other two and install them. I don't do any serious off-roading with it but sometimes take it down a Forest Service road where it could hit something unexpected. Why take chances as it's just a few hundred dollars that can save you big time. Fortunately, my 05 Nismo came with them. That's one of the reasons I got the Nismo vs. the straight Frontier. - 81 Trekker
  • If I were going to get the tacoma or the Frontier for my first car which one would y'all recommend?
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    A very general question. The very best thing to do is drive both more than once and pick the vehicle that you feel suits you best-they are both good choices.
  • I agree with driver56. Both are good choices.
    For many people, money is an issue when buying a first vehicle. If that is the case for you, and if the Frontier suits you, you may be able to get more features for the $ with one of those.
  • I am also deciding between the Tacoma, Frontier/Xtera or the Ford Explorer (but I keep hearing bad things about the Explorer). I have test drove all 4 a couple of times and the Tacoma has my vote so far. Does anyone know if the Tacoma has a Timing Chain as opposed to a Timing Belt? I also checked the owners manual and the Tacoma calls for 87 Octane but states it will perform better on 91 octane. I thought I read some where that Toyota recommended only 91 octane? I have also been looking under the hood, Looks like you have to pull out half the engine to change a spark plug on the Frontier/Xtera (same engine) and forget about the Explorer. The Tacoma doesn't look so bad. Take a look under the hood also. Still not crazy about the Aluminum Block engine on the Nissan. Only time will tell.
  • This was taken from the "Tough Truck Test"

    "This made choosing a winner difficult, but the Nissans take the win. If we were buying a truck that would spend its entire life in the dirt, one of the Tacomas might get the nod, but before you play in the mud on the weekend, you have to get through the week first. While equally as tough and capable off-road as the Tacomas, the Nissan Frontiers are simply more refined and more comfortable. Bottom line, had we been forced to endure another few days in the desert we would have wanted to be driving one of the Nissan Frontiers"

    "More refined and more comfortable" I like both trucks a lot, but I drive a Frontier because when you are behind the wheel and driving down the road, the Frontier is more comfortable.

    Both are great trucks IMO, it just depends on what features/characteristics are more important to you.
  • The 1GR-FE V6 engine model for the Tacoma has a timing chain.

    I don't know for sure what the 2TR-FE I4 uses but believe it is also a chain, not a belt.
  • Anyone knows, in what southern state is Tacoma manufactured? Thanks
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    The Tacoma is produced at the NUMMI plant in Fremont, California. I believe there is also a new plant in Baja, Mexico.
  • Mine is from Baja.

    Wayne
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