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Toyota Tacoma vs Nissan Frontier

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  • eaglegeagleg Posts: 87
    I just couldn't stand by and watch the abuse.I was treated the same way last year when I tried to take on the Honda Ridgeline.One misspelling and I was almost shunned.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    I have taught you well grasshopper, keep up the good work! :shades:
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    I like your style! :shades:
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    I handed back some abuse and the Host Kram nixed some threads I posted that were so-called personal attacks on AWD car and minivan owners,they dont even own a pickup let alone a Toyota or nissan,yet they know what the specs are from a magazine article not real life.
  • eaglegeagleg Posts: 87
    I read the forbidden posts.Have you experienced R.S. Holland.He is a big fan of the Honda,yet he owns a Suburu.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    How about driver56 he owns a suburu and a minivan but likes to test drive and give his professional opinion as to its merits of a particular Pickup. Thats uptight,either your a truck man or not,that means ownership to me.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    You're not referring to the British General are you? I would have thought that a Bentley would be more in order.
    I own a Subaru ( an Impreza WRX STI ) and what I would call my cargo van ( a 98 Toyota Sienna 5 door) which is used as my hauler. I'm actually a fan of Subaru (a wolf in sheep's clothing for the most part) but am still considering one of the Mid-Size pick-ups, namely Frontier or Tacoma, to replace my aging Van. A truck for work, and a rally car for thrills.
  • eaglegeagleg Posts: 87
    I think a new work truck is in order and the Tacoma would look real nice parked next to that WRX STI.Indigo Ink Pearl would be nice.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    Better stick with that aging van Redcoat because you'll be getting some real thrills trying to resell that Fronty when gas gets to $4.00gallon American and you can convert that to imperial Gallons since your still in Her Majesties colony.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    I prefer silver.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    We're actually Sovereign.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    Whats that mean you got bad taste in trucks? Maybe you should get a quad cab 2006 Tacoma in desert sand micra color SR5 sport package that will thrill ya I gaurantee,or save $2000 get a Pea soup green quad with that righteous looking roofrack and drive to work and let all the guys and gals laugh at ya then dissapointment will set in and you'll get depressed but hey you saved some money.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Tacoma is not superior. Period. Ride quality is o.k.
    Interior design and comfort are two separate things. Some people like, some people don't ( sort of like guacamole).
    Toyota certainly has a reputation.
    The new Frontier has a strong power-train (some in the know have actually claimed that the VQ engine may be the absolute best engine ever built. The bed liner is certainly more than sufficient. Gas mileage is poor, but so it is for all trucks. Realistically, one can achieve 20 m.p.g. mixed on an Imperial Gallon. Resale is close to par with Toys, and reliability is average (so we're told) which is good. Drive-ability and livability is subjective - think guacamole.
    Do your research, take a long spin, and pick the one that suits you best.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    I did'nt realize the Tacoma came in Pea soup green.??????
  • woodshop28woodshop28 Posts: 74
    I've posted this before, but I get 20 MPG, mixed hwy/city in the summer, 18-19 in the winter; Frontier V6 4x4 6-spd.

    I agree, "Do your research, take a long spin, and pick the one that suits you best."
    Heck, if you like a Dakota, buy that.
    Buy what you like, like what you drive.

    At this point, we are beating a dead horse.
  • critter1critter1 Posts: 104
    Nissan VQ series reminds me of Chevy small block evolution,they took the orignal 265 ci engine and just kept developing and refining it, The Chevy Small Block would have rank somewhere for best of last 50 years for sure.
    The VQ series I believe started in the 80's sometime not sure. A friend had an 86 Nissan 4x4 KC with V6 and I think it was VQ series. Anyway Old Sugar way to hyper for this old Critter!

    Critter in the Surf Fish'in :)
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Please do not respond to "bait".

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • giantkillergiantkiller Posts: 273
    I have been comparing extensively for the past several weeks these vehicles. I've seen them and test drove them in person. I have read the multiple trucks comparo here at Edmunds where the Tacoma wins and the follow up, The Shootout, where the Frontier wins.
    The trucks which i'm interested at are: Tacoma 4x2 DC short bed with SR5 package, 17 inch wheel,6 CD upgrade stereo, and running board and Frontier LE CC 4x2 with ugraded audio (Rockford Fosgate).
    Exterior- subjective, but I lke them both.
    Interior- this is where the Tacoma shine. Hands down, the best intertior of the two because the Frontier is totally cheap. Very cheap looking interior. Hard plastic all around. It looks like it was designed 10 years ago.
    Comfort- Contrary to Edmunds comparo, the Shootout between the two, I found the Tacoma to be the best compromise between front seat and back seat comfort. Frontier back seat seating position isnt accomodating. The angle of recline is so minimal and the 1 inch leg room advantage is not there. However , the Tacoma is comfortable all around, front and back seat. I love the angle of recline of the back seat. If the Edmunds editor can say that they can go cross country with the Frontier, I and my family can go cross country in a Tacoma.
    Ride Quality- Ride quality for Tacoma is car like. Very smooth. The Frontier was not bad either. I'll be satisfied with any of them.
    Handling- I'm no race car driver and this is not exactly your typical vehicle to use for canyon carving so I'm gonna evaluate them as to where they are going to be used. Maneuverability is the key and the Tacoma has the lowest turning radius. In last Edmunds comparo, the Tacoma have the better slalom time than Frontier.
    Looks- Subjective but I like them both.
    Engine- I like the VQ derive 4L engine. However the packaging leave so much to be desired. First of all the engine is noisy while the Tacoma had a quite refined engine. Second the vehicles is heavier so the Tacoma wins in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. So even though the Frontier engine had better torque and HP in paper, the Tacoma beat it in real world condition as far as engine goes.
    Safety- The 2 door tacoma received 5 star front driver/passenger and 5 star side crash rating from NHTSA while the Frontier received 4 star front driver/passenger and 5 star side crash rating from NHTSA. Tacoma wins.
    Audio - The standard audio for the Frontier looks like it was designed 10 years ago. So I had to opt for the Rockford Fosgate. However the $800 added cost is not worth it. Audio quality is better than the Standard Tacoma with the 6 CD option but it cost too much. Tacoma wins.
    Price- Tacoma cost about 23415 while the frontier is 22617. With the Tacoma winning most of my criterias an 800 dollar premium is small compared to what I'm getting.
    Conclsion- Im getting a Tacoma and I'm not going to regret it. Before getting into this truck buying process I had set my eyes on the Frontier. After test driving, evaluating the interior and interior first hand, you cant deny that the Tacoma is a better vehicle.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Frontier is quieter than Tacoma.

    and yet you say...
    First of all the engine is noisy while the Tacoma had a quite refined engine

    Frontier
    Db @ Idle: 42
    Db @ Full Throttle: 71
    Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 68

    Tacoma
    Db @ Idle: 42
    Db @ Full Throttle: 71
    Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 70
  • eaglegeagleg Posts: 87
    I'd wear ear plugs before I drove a Fronty.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    THere it is! Giantkiller you nailed it right on the head!
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    Tacoma is certainly a better looking truck by far than Fronty thats not subjective,I confirmed this again for myself today I saw a Pea Green Quad Fronty with a lame tubular roofrack with bugeyed headlights,and then saw a brand new Taco Quad SR5 in Desert Sand Micra color what a beauty theres no comparision,put the total package together with performance and reliability and resale its a no brainer Taco is the better truck. Nissan Fronty is a street queen and Taco is a looker and an off/on road performer.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Everyone has an opinion.

    Brian Moody of Edmunds on the Tacoma-

    I expected the Tacoma to be the winner before the vehicles even arrived. The interior is by far the best of the bunch and borders on Camry-like comfort. But despite the cushy interior, the overly soft ride detracts from the truck's overall feel. Handling is kind of sloppy and the suspension ends up causing too much commotion. Plus, the engine and transmission seem to be constantly searching for power. -END

    If you want a camry-like interior, buy a Taboma, if you want a TRUCK, buy a Frontier.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    Coulnt have said it better myself. By the way Moparbad doesnt own any truck its not a requirement for posting here (Kram) but he doesnt even have the intestinal fortitude to list what he drives thats also not a requirement for posting either.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    His comments and track reults did not agree. It means his talking out of his [non-permissible content removed].

    Your comment that the Frontier is noisy and the Tacoma is not do not agree with objective results. Does that mean you are speaking out of your derriere?

    (from Edmunds test results)
    Tacoma
    0-60 8.1 seconds
    1/4 mile 16.1 seconds
    slalom mph 58.8

    Frontier
    0-60 8.3 seconds
    1/4 mile 16.22 seconds
    slalom mph 59.9

    If its relative to a Frontier then how come Tacoma beat the hell out of it in any objective and handling testing? seems disjointed to me.

    Frontier was faster in the slalom and slower in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. The combined difference is .42 seconds.
    That equals being beat to hell? :surprise: That seems exaggerated, not objective.
  • eaglegeagleg Posts: 87
    2 Db is alot louder?Exaggerated?All have thrown objectivity out the window.Check your#1133.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    To start with, you write that the exterior is subjective, but not the interior. Why? I do not see the interior in the Nissan as cheap at all. It is simply truck-like (basic), but far from cheap. The Tacoma is perhaps more refined, but to me looks like it belongs in a Camry, especially with that monstrous centre stack.
    With the seating (I'm only interested in the Access or King), I found both trucks to be comfortable. Some reviewers didn't like the Tacoma's flat, low front seat. I didn't find that to be the case.
    With ride quality, I actually prefer the Nissan. The Toy is more car-like, if that is what you like, that is fine.
    The Frontier was more responsive (nimble) but the turning radius is a negative. The Taco wins there.
    The look of these two is the absolute least important factor for myself. Whatever on that count.
    I would expect trouble-free motoring with either power-train. I thought the 4 litre Tacoma to be noisier ( at least at near full throttle) than the Nissan. But, I'd be happy with either. The performance levels of both trucks should leave little to be desired.
    As far as crash test ratings go, the Taco looks better on paper,but, the vehicle that was tested for full frontal was considerably lighter than the Frontier. Any two vehicles that are + or - 250 lbs. cannot be compared with each other. And that is in print. Mind you, the King Cab Frontier only received a 3 star and I am not thrilled with that. Both trucks scored GOOD on the off-set crash and both received 5 stars for side impact. I would feel as protected in either vehicle. The King Cab offers side bags.
    The audio thing doesn't figure into it for me, and the pricing of these two is fairly close, but our local Nissan dealer will dicker, Toyota not. Nissan, more bang for the money.
    Almost all of the above is subjective, so what you experience is not what someone else will. And that is a fact. Everything else is opinion. You say that one cannot deny that the Tacoma is better? I just did. And that is my opinion.
    Hopefully, if or when you purchase a Tacoma, you'll enjoy it. At this point that is only wishful thinking. As with any vehicle, you pay your money, you take your chances.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    2 Db is alot louder.Exaggerated?

    What is your point? That the Tacoma is a lot louder than the Frontier?? Tacoma is 2 dB louder than Frontier.

    2 dB is not much, Frontier and Tacoma noise in cabin are very similar.
  • sugarman1sugarman1 Posts: 92
    Quote: As with any vehicle,you pay your money,you take your chances. Reply: Pay your money and get a Fronty and quit telling us true owners your text book evaluations ,we own these trucks unlike you .
  • eaglegeagleg Posts: 87
    You wouldn't notice 2DB.What do you drive or don't you?Have you test driven either Tacoma or Frontier?I honestly don't think you have.Are you just baiting everyone on here because you have nothing else to do?Are you able to drive.
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