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2007 Lexus LF-A

callmedrfillcallmedrfill Posts: 729
edited April 8 in Lexus
Now that it has been introduced (in concept form) at the NAIAS. I think we can go more into depth as to it's future pursuits.

 

   

  500HP+ is good. Aston Martin DB9, Porsche 911 Turbo, Benz SL55 as competition is good.

 

  Styling is a significant issue (wish I could link on this browser), but being a concpet, there is still hope The basic design seems to be a larger Celica, which I always liked, sans the tight interior and buzzy engine choices.

 

    

   Please post some pics of the car show's concept!

 

  DrFill
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  • Well, auto show are here so are the LFA, What do you all think of this exotic from lexus?

     

    http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101568

     

    As for myself it look good In and out.
  • At carconnection.com

     

      It's better than I thought. The rear is obviously pure concept.

     

      DrFill
  • THIS LF-A forum was up first! So post here. The host will drop my clone shortly. Thank you.

     

       DrFill
  • This will jettison the rebirth of a Toyota "Supracar" as well. Obviously it can't borrow much from any future Lexus exotic, but this is an original platform, and if 'Yota has proven anything over the last decade, it's than they really don't want to make only one car per platform.

     

       Something else to think about.

     

       Back in 1991, with the Acura NSX at it's height, Lexus comes out with the SC, a groundbreaking design that was hugely successful. Why wasn't a project like this undertaken then? They had proven they can make a compelling sports coupe. The NSX gave them a natural competitor and market to attack. The Lexus name was HOT, with the SC and LS instant success. They could have made a supercar, that would at least draw more traffic and press to their fledgling brand.

       

       The cost for such a limited production vehicle may have been prohibitive, and they may've had more concrete, long-term financial ideas like building more dealerships and such.

     

       But if you said you can have the 1993 Lexus GS, which fizzled after a fast start, and even today 12 years later, has failed to make an impact on the sports-sedan market, or a supercar to shock the world and dazzle the Germans (and Italians), in hindsight......

     

        

       DrFill
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    I'm not sure Toyota had what it takes to make an F355, 911 or Viper fighter in those days. The Nissan R33 Skyline GT-R was around then too, but Nissan never felt it was worth the money adapting the car to left hand drive as well as the cost of making a US emissions and federal safety certified car. Just look at how long it took the Subie STi and Lancer Evo to get here. The Japanese have traditionally been very apprehensive about bringing their home-brew performance machines to this side of the world. Forunately that is changing, but I really cant see Toyota making a super exotic back in '92.
  • To make the Supra, only THE GREATEST sports car of the 20th century, they could have made a Super-Supra!

     

       And the strength to make THE GREATEST luxury sedan of the 20th century, they could've made a Lexus of Exotica!

     

       Am I lyin'?

     

       My Jets just lost an amazing game, man. That's sad! :(

     

        

       DrFill
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    "To make the Supra, only THE GREATEST sports car of the 20th century"

     

    Ok something is wrong with you if you meant that seriously. I am a Toyota fan and I dont agree with that at all. The 20th century is A LOT of cars. I wouldnt even put Supra in the top 100.

     

    Are you forgetting the 300SL? The Ferrari 250 GT0? The Porsche 550 speedster? The Jaguar E-type? And countless other greats that would slot WELL above a Toyota Supra on the list of the 20th century's greatest sports cars?
  • Dude, you're playing into my strengths here! Supra knowledge!

     

      The Supra was the best sports car of the 90's.

     

      The best Toyota has EVER produced. The Best value (Under $40k). Won every comparison!

     

      Better than ZR-1 (forget a mere mortal Vette)!

     

      Better than NSX (MT)! Better than RX-7 (C&D)!

     

      Compared to 512TR and 911 (Seriously!).

     

      R&T once said "It's so competent (at beating 300ZX, Vette, and 3000GT), it's boring!"

     

      Best braking distance C&D has ever recorded (a record that stood for years until VERY recently)!

      

      The wunderlust of every aftermarket tuner in the US, able to support 900+HP without chassis bracing, and with the stock tranny!!!

      And a mighty fine looker as well!

     

      This was no car, it was a freak of nature. You have Mickey Mantle, Gandhi, The Godfather, Barry Sanders, and the 1993 Toyota Supra.

       

      I'm not gonna break down a great sports car of the 50s or 60s. All I can say is today's cars are better than the cars of yesteryear. You won't find a Gullwing that can run with a modern Supra. Was it an icon? Sure! Is it a Supra? I think not!

     

       

      Maybe every 10-12 years, 'Yota will create another marsterpiece, a new heir to the throne?

     

      Name me a car that can do what a Supra could, look good, beat all comers, and cost.....$38k?

     

       

      DrFill
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    The '80s, early 90s Vettes were hardly the best cars ever to wear that name plate. The Vette didnt become a legitimate sports car until '97. The 3000GT also weighed about 8 billion pounds and was never much of a sports car. The Supra TT was one of the greats of the '90s, and of course a tuner favorite, but it would get thoroughly destroyed by THE ultimate tuner car and THE Japanese sports car icon, the R-34 Nissan Skyline GT-R. No other Japanese performance car even comes close.

     

    If Nissan's new world model GT-R is anything like the last one, Toyota is going to have a seriously tough competitior on their hands.
  • If it was so hot, why couldn't it make it here?

     

      If it doesn't get to the majors, is it a Hall of Famer?

     

      Funny sidebar. The Sura and the C5 faced off once in C&D in a comparison in 1997-8, and the Vette beat it by one point (Did you think the 5 year old Supra was going to beat a shiny next-gen Vette?)

     

      I think the Supra had a better road course lap time too! Vette won 0-60 4.8 to 5.0.

     

      Both lost the comparo to the M3!

     

        

      DrFill
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    If the Supra was never sold in the United States, would it have the popularity that the Skyline does here? I seriously doubt it. It was a great car, but anybody can put a FE\RWD car together with a good suspension and make a sports car. Nissan was years ahead of SH-AWD with their ATTESA-ETS electronic AWD system, the first of its kind that kept all of the power at the rear wheels until the front tires needed more traction, and also included rear wheel steering.

     

    Despite being a large, rather heavy coupe, the R-34 was good for 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. It could outlap a Porsche Carrera 4. It could also brake to 0 from 70mph in 150 feet.

     

    The R-34 never made it here because of the situation that Nissan was in during the cars run. If it did, it could easily go toe-to-toe with any M3 and squash Corvette C5 and Supra. And just like the Supra, the R-34 is capable of 800hp+ on largely stock mechanicals.
  • The Skyline was/is quite ugly! I now know what "Goes like stink" means.

     

      It looks lke the Supra after it's been through a demolition derby! Never liked Nissan's style. Has ugly ways (M45, old and new, Q, M30, J30, 300Z 2+2), until VERY recenty (Murano, FX, Altima).

     

        

      DrFill
  • As reported at the NAIAS, Danny Clements, GM of lexus, says any production car version of the LF-A would run about $125k.

     

      He called this price a "sweet spot" or soft part of the market. The main competition would be Porsche 911 Turbo at that price. This undercuts Ford GT and Ferrari 430 by $25-40k.

     

      This prototype seems further along than most Lexus concepts. I'd say it could be ready by early 2007, after the LS comes out.

     

      DrFill
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Hhahahaha. Very clever comeback drfill. "Oh yeah? We'll you're ugly."

     

    Would people pay $60K+ For an imported '98 Supra TT? I seriously doubt it. Some people must like the R-34's looks. By the way, the '99 Blitz Skyline has been clocked at 220mph.
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  • i think that lexus build that car directly to enter the competion from the biggest door
    as the next gen. SC with may be 3 engines
    the high out hp will be hybrid shared with the future supra and one other will be chared with the next gen LS and i think the 5.0L
  • ryousukeryousuke Posts: 12
    that sounds nice, a return to the coupe sc, but lexus would probably want another car as a convertible cruiser... LF-A?? all guessing for now... only time will tell
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    I'm a strong believer in halo car psychology. I think that Lexus will use this super LF-A to fight Lexus' almost sportless image. Then people would come in to look at this AWESOME LF-A and come out with an IS. Just a thought.
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  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    That's a pretty car
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