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2007 Infiniti Q series

lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
edited March 20 in Infiniti
Obviously there's no information available from Infiniti but we can always discuss this future car. Anyway, I wish it's going to become as interesting as the other new Infiniti products launched a little while ago. I predict a 5.0 V8 with 6 speed automatic.
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  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    I think the car will be a pretty radical departure from the current one, just like the change from the old M45 to the new one. When the '91 Q came out as the sporty alternative to the LS, it had to deal with Germany, and Germany was invincible in those days. Today is a different story. If Nissan can get the interior right, and make a car that drives like a 745i with the reliability of an LS430, they may FINALLY have made a Q that works.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    That may happen, but it won't be for 2007 with the car just getting a facelift for 2005. I'd say 2008 at the earliest and possibly not at all. They'll need a new platform not a stretched G35 and the sport car isn't going to work in the upper category, luxury first and then sport...BMW is the only exception to the rule and the 7-Series is far from dominate in the class.

     

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  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Lexus traditionally replaces models 2 years after a face lift. Infiniti has said they are doing "something" that the Q wont just disappear. Nobody knows what yet though.
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    Normally, Japanese cars are lasting 5 years. The new LS will be an exception since it appeared in MY2001, was facelifted in MY2004 and is supposed to be redone in MY2007. They probably want to give themeselves time to make THE perfect car (they don't want to miss their chance). Because normally every Lexus/Infiniti is redone after 5 years. And I predict the Q will be redone in MY 2007, like the LS, because it was launched in MY2002 just before the G35 that will be redone in MY2008 (but the G35 got an earlier refresh than it was supposed to; 1 year before, like the Corolla that should've been refreshed in MY2006 but they did it in MY2005, and the car is going to exist on this form during 3 years instead of 2 after its refresh).
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Since when do Japanese models last 5 years? The first SC ran for 8. The first LS ran for 6 or 7. This GS is just finishing up an 8 year run. The first RX ran for 6. Only the ES seems to be going on 5 year redesigns.
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    I was basing myself on Toyota's habits of replacing their models in a cycle of 5 years. And anyway, I don't think Infiniti will let the current Q in production for more than 5 years since it's a total mess in terms of sales. I don't know the real facts, but somehow they must surely loose some money with that Q?? I'm sure Infiniti wants to launch their next Q at the same time than the LS to steal any attention the Lexus would generate. And look at the old M, it wasn't long before it got a replacement (launched HERE in MY2003, discontinued in MY2005!) That's my opininon!
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    The M's early retirement is not related to it being a sales disaster. The NA version was based on a JDM Nissan model near the end of its life cycle. Just as they're getting a new Nissan Fuga, we're getting a new M45. It makes sense for Infiniti to make their move in '07 to counter Lexus, but thats only if they have a car ready to make that move.
  • bruce6bruce6 Posts: 29
    Is it my imagination, or has Infiniti completely failed to promote the updated Q? I have not seen a single ad anywhere.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,824
    Well... we ARE talking about a 2007 model. Doubt there'd be any advertising at this point.

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  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    kirstie, I think he was talking about the modest freshening Infiniti gave the Q for 2005. Bruce, its such a poor seller that Infiniti probably feels its not worth the ad dollars.
  • bruce6bruce6 Posts: 29
    Lexusguy is correct, I'm talking about the '05 facelift. Why spend the money to update a car if you aren't going to try to get people to buy it? If they wanted to forget about the current Q and concentrate on th '07 (and the new M in the meantime), fine, but why bother with an update at all then?
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,824
    Gotcha. I've actually only seen one on the road.

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  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    Same here. It was a few years ago, back when Infiniti was running several ads in all the automags bragging about the Q's multi-projector headlights. When your best weapons are your fancy headlights, you've got a problem.
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    That may happen, but it won't be for 2007 with the car just getting a facelift for 2005. I'd say 2008 at the earliest and possibly not at all. They'll need a new platform not a stretched G35 and the sport car isn't going to work in the upper category, luxury first and then sport...BMW is the only exception to the rule and the 7-Series is far from dominate in the class.

      

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    Couldn't agree with you more. Infiniti shot itself badly in the foot with the Q, and I think the opportunity has passed. It will take a miracle to resuscitate the Q from the morgue where it currently rests in peace !
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well I think if they can get the new M series cars onto the mid-luxury buyers shopping lists then a totally new Q, provided that it is equally impressive should be able to do somewhat better than the current model. I think the higher up in price/size class you go the tougher the market. The Audi A8, imo is wonderful car, and it just had its best sales year ever, but it still only a little less than 6K units. The Jaguar XJ was all new for 2004 and I think it did about 10K for the year. Lexus managed to crack it by going for the Mercedes formula, not sportiness first, like Infiniti did with the Q. The only large car that is truly sporty is the 7-Series and the occasional AMG S-Class, but other than that its luxury first in this class. Infiniti will have to decide in which light they want to cast a Q45 replacement. If they choose sport I predict more of the same. If they choose luxury they'll have to deal with MB, Lexus and Jaguar, not easy to do imo.

     

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  • Infiniti is the Japanese BMW. Don't count on any soft sprung new future cars being developed. Their business plan is to take market share from BMW mainly. Who cares about whether a new Q is coming or not. The GT-R supercar will be all the talk when it rolls in 07. Over $70K price and

    BMW M type power and performance.
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    The same guy has been given the position of figuring out how to sell both the M and the Q, so I figure the new Q is not going to target the LS. Infiniti knows they cant match the Lexus on luxury, so they've got to go in the other direction. I really dont how Infiniti can get a new Q to actually work in the market. Frankly, I just dont think they NEED a fullsize $60K+ sedan, they've got other things to worry about.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Actually, most Infiniti models aren't selling too great. Only the FX, the G35 and maybe the QX56 are doing fine in terms of sales. Here's the rundown of the other three:

     

    M45: A mess! I still have yet to see one on the road since it was launched. And I haven't seen any advertising.

     

    I35: Yet another mess. No ads. I have seen two or three on the road, and my kid's old piano teacher bought one last year. (So I've probably seen three or four of this car)

     

    Q45: Yep, another mess. I've haven't seen one on the road ever since it was launched. When your best feature is your headlights and your heated seats, you've got problems. Big problems.
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    The M45 is the car thats about to be replaced. Once it actually hits dealerships in another 2 months, except sales to increase 10 fold at least. The I35 is dead for 2005, so there's really no mess anymore. For what its worth, I've actually seen two Q45s not in an Infiniti dealership. The poor Q must solder on for another 2-3 years, and then something will happen. It will either just die like the I35, or they will replace it, but with what I have no clue.
  • oacoac Posts: 1,594
    The M45 is the car thats about to be replaced. Once it actually hits dealerships in another 2 months, except sales to increase 10 fold at least

     

    10-fold sales increase ! I guess when you are selling ~100 units per month, that is not that far an expectation ? BUT, are we not really infering too much about this car ? No one can predict the extent of its success - 10-fold, 1 kadzillion-fold, etc... Why not let us wait and see how the market reacts when it gets here. I don't see that many people with $45K+ to spend aiming for an Infiniti M, when there is a Bimmer (530), Audi (A6 4.2), Lexus (GS430), Acura (RL), and MB (E350) out there. Only time will tell if the M is a sector defining car, otherwise, I suspect it may not make that much dent in its sector afterall. I guess we'll see, won't we ?
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