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MazdaSpeed3: Styling Impressions

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  • Talked to a larger dealer in Appleton, WI last Wed. as my GF bought a CX-7...he said they'd have 1-2 on the lot in 2 weeks. He's giving me a call when they come in :)
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    The boat that has the speed3 for the northeast should be docking in the next day or so....They usually spend a week or two at the port then they ship to dealers. It looks like speed dealers will only get one car each....then it will be a few weeks before we see another one.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    hey avi.....Are you selling yours at a premium??

    We took an order tonight from a guy who blew out of another dealer near me who wants $5000 over...
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I have 2 deposits on 5 of our incoming Speed3's. Both have been for list.

    Well, It was not me who hit him $5,000 over.

    I'm hoping my first will be in the same shipment as yours, we are pretty close in location. My other 4 do not have VIN's yet, so, I am assuming they are quite a ways away.
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    "We took an order tonight from a guy who blew out of another dealer near me who wants $5000 over...."

    Talk about raising the idiot flag just to see if anyone will salute. $500 over maybe, $1000 over you never know, $5000 over for a souped up (very nicely, mind you) Mazda 3? ROL ... ROL ... Ow! my stomach hurts from laughing so hard. Got to admire the hutzpah, but have not heard of ANYONE on the forums paying more than MSRP. One person said she might cough up a couple hundred more b/c she had been waiting a long to replace her econobox, but the dealer decided they'd stick with MSRP.
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    $5000 over for a souped up ... Mazda 3? ... Ow! my stomach hurts from laughing so hard
    ... I hear you laughing! Difficult to imagine how someone could be looking at a Mazdaspeed6 being discounted several thousand dollars in less than a year and then thinking they have to pay $5K extra for the Mazdaspeed3. It takes all kinds.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    You know what kills me, my Ford store (We have Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Subaru, Mazda) sold the first Shelby GT500 for $45,000 over sticker.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "...sold the first Shelby GT500 for $45,000 over sticker."

    PLEASE tell me you've got the comma in the wrong place....
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Nope, $45,000 OVER sticker

    MSRP on the Shelby GT500 was around $43,000. It sold for $88K
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    We sold our two ford GT for $200K & $175K so nothing surprises me.....folks who suffer from the must have disease are always my favorite customers.

    OTOH, based on my speed3 sales I could probably get $1000-2000 over if I wanted to hold out. Instead I decided to get them all sold before the first one hit and we accomplished this. Now I don't have to deal with every punk with their hat on backwards looking for test drive.

    These cars are going to trickle over the next 3 months so unless the car is a total flop there won't be many sitting around....
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    We sold our 2 Ford GT's for $200K as well.

    I happen to agree with you on the $1,000 to $2,000 over list, it is possible to do. If I happen to have one not sold on the ground, I will definalty try and get what I can.

    I am seeing that the Mazdaspeed3 is drawing traffic for the Mazdaspeed6 in combination with the current incentives through Mazda. Are you seeing that as well?
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    "MSRP on the Shelby GT500 was around $43,000. It sold for $88K"

    That "must have" must have figured out how to write it off as a business expense.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Paying more than DOUBLE what the MSRP is......

    Moronic.

    Totally, completely moronic.

    The car has been out on the road for less than a MONTH and you can buy cars TODAY, that are ON DEALERS LOTS, for $65k (in fact ebay has a red convertible, on the ground, with a 'buy it now' of $65k.

    So, in a month, that car has depreciated by a MINIMUM of $30k.

    I bet you guys LOVE the 'gotta have it FIRST' types....
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    "I happen to agree with you on the $1,000 to $2,000 over list, it is possible to do. If I happen to have one not sold on the ground, I will definalty try and get what I can."

    Well, everything is more expensive in dense population areas like NY/NJ area. You probably can get $1-2K more. Maybe in LA, too. Here, I doubt it. What about the lack of AT in dense traffic areas like yours? I know some guys out in LA were complaining about it.
  • tunerstuners Posts: 3
    My Mazda dealer accepted the S: plan last night no questions asked. I wasn't expecting that from what I've been reading so I was pleastently surprised. I would have walked if they trierd to charge over list. I have a VIN # and an delivery date of late November. I live near Philly if that makes any difference.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    That's weird, there is no S Plan on the MS3. I guess they are just doing an invoice deal. Lucky you.
  • tunerstuners Posts: 3
    You are correct. Mazda calls it the Z:plan,I think. Ford calls it the S:plan. The dealer asked me for the pin number so they must be trying to use it. My guess is they offered me a little less than what I wanted for my trade in so that is where they will make it up. Overall, I'm happy with the deal so I can't wait till the car arrives.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Actually, it's vice versa. Mazda is S-Plan and Ford is Z-Plan, and Ford also has a few other code plans as well.

    I guess that Mazda dealer did not get the memo that the rest of us dealers got that says "Mazda will not offer S-Plan on the Mazdaspeed3". It has been placed on the "restricted" list.

    As for your trade, if they did not give you what you wanted for it, does not mean they stand to "make up" the profit there. The majority of the time, what a customer wants for their vehicle is not what it is worth in real dollars. But, every scenario is different.

    As I stated before, you are lucky they gave you that deal, however, when they go to submit the "S-Plan" PIN and see that Mazda rejects it, you may find yourself paying more. Be ready to re-negotiate.
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    "My Mazda dealer accepted the S: plan last night no questions asked. I wasn't expecting that from what I've been reading so I was pleastently surprised. I would have walked if they trierd to charge over list. I have a VIN # and an delivery date of late November. I live near Philly if that makes any difference."

    Yeah, the key question is whether the S-Plan PIN will work when the time comes, as you can see from Aviboy's post and posts from other salesmen on other forums. If it doesn't work, maybe you can just offer to pay the S-Plan commission yourself.
  • Mazda Dealers,

    Any suggestions on the best way to negotiate an extended warranty with a dealer, if possible, considering I'm willing to pay msrp on the Speed3? I keep my cars 7+ years, and think it would be good to have....
  • Does Mazda provide a website to search for car details by VIN?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Any suggestions on the best way to negotiate an extended warranty with a dealer, if possible, considering I'm willing to pay msrp on the Speed3? I keep my cars 7+ years, and think it would be good to have....

    It's tough to give advice for negotiating a warranty given that there are loads of warranty's out there by various companies. However, if you do purchase a warranty, make sure it is a manufacturer backed warranty, for example, I sell "Easy Care" which is a Mazda backed warranty.

    If you keep your cars 7+ years, maybe go for a 7yr-85K mile warranty (they are not too expensive) or 8yr-100K (again, not too expensive.)
  • Thanks for the advice... Already made a deposit on a Cosmic Blue GT MS3 w/Nav, but the dealer and I haven't discussed final pricing, other than not more than MSRP.
    I pick up my car in early December, and hope some of the hype has subsided by then so I can better negotiate on these extras.
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    Got the call today, my car is at the dealer and will be ready for my inspection on Monday! Glad I didn't wait to get a GT on S-plan. I think I'll be perfectly happy with a Sport now. I'll share initial impressions with you all as soon as I have some.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    My first one is at the port, waiting to be shipped.
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    According a Mazda customer service email, mine arrived at port on the 2nd. It got to the dealer Saturday, so that was about two weeks for the port work and shipping. But that involved a train ride before transfer to a truck which yours probably won't since the port and your store are in NJ, right?
  • seanwms6seanwms6 Posts: 121
    Okay, sat in the car (CB Sport) today at the dealer and fired it up. Haven't paid for it yet and had the kids with me so no test drive, yet. Sounds good, rumbly just like in the vids, but by no means loud. Interior room is fine. Fit and finish is the same as the MS6. No one-touch up/down windows, which I've gotten used to but can live without. Stereo sounds a little thin, but again, I can live without the Bose. I'll use it for awhile and maybe upgrade at some point. I was gonna take pix but the damn thing was apparently parked right off the truck and hadn't been detailed yet. 9 miles on the odometer, which is exactly what my MS6 had on it. It has a sign saying "Sold, do not drive!" The salesman says only tech has driven it and it had mud on the turned over floor mat to prove it. CB looks good, definitely blue and not gray in sunlight. Fair amount of flake, enough so it could have been called CB Mica. A good change of pace from grey/silver/red/black and adds to sleeper status.

    I got to tell you, though, sitting there undetailed among other cars of various sizes, I think the market for this car will be limited to people looking for an inexpensive performance car. It's a sleeper with almost no cues that it is more than a regular 3. If I were a dealer, I'd forget about "market adjustments". This is not a car that will sell on sales sizzle, IMHO. If you can bide your time and wait for discounts or S-Plan, I'd do that. And get the GT if you want those extra touches and can afford them. But, if it performs as well as everybody is saying and has the aftermarket (Corky is on the case!) to turn it into a true FWD badass (which I fully expect), then it is a gift from Mazda to us as enthusiasts. I plan to enjoy it to the fullest extent possible and for many years. Maybe I'll even pass it on to my son if it lasts that long.

    Driving impressions to follow in 1-2 days!
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    Thanks for the info! Now that this is going to hit the streets, I've changed the title of this old "future" discussion. For the "first drives" discussion, be sure to visit the Mazda3 Group and check out the discussion list - feel free to create some of your own!

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  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Umm, seeing as how the Speed3 STYLING is really not all that different from the regular Mazda3, why a whole thread devoted to Speed3 Styling?

    I can't even remember much in the way of past discussion on Speed3 styling...

    Why not just combine this thread and the "First Drives" thread into a single thread "First Impressions" thread? As it is, you've already got 3 seperate Speed3 theads going in here (plus another one on the "Future Vehicles" board).
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I guess it would help if I had read your earlier post a little closer.

    I see now that you had moved this discussion from the "Future Vehicles" board over here. whoops..... :blush:
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