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Toyota FJ Cruiser

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  • tommyg12tommyg12 Posts: 158
    fyi......autoweek.com has posted some pretty good shots of the production model. No interior yet.
  • The hummer is a joke and will go down in history as a scam. A faux military starbux car. Who cares if sales tank after the first day? I am going to get one if it holds true to what they are saying. I love the element but it is just not heavy duty enough for me. This is like a Truck element, just hope the mpg is not too bad.
  • Again!

     

       Grab an increasing share in a diminishing market (Pure-bred off-roaders, Element, Wrangler, Xterra, Hummer).

     

       I'll bet the last buggy-whip was a pretty good tool!

     

       Maybe the Supra will come back!

     

       In 2008.

     

       DrFill
  • Are you a toyota share holder? Who cares unless you are one? There are some people like myself who view a vehicle as a tool. That said i want a tool that works well, is reliable and does not have a bunch of garbage that gets in the way of it lasting. I will never buy a lawnmower with leather and wood trim. Why would i buy a car with that stuff. As for you supra. I dont think having the FJ hurts the chances of one. Maybe the small cramped sports car market will return if the mustang is a hit.
  • They definitely botched this one.
  • ALL who enter value my wisdom, my input, and now are able to speak of this white (topped) elephant!

     

      If only it were as cool as the Mini Copper it unsuccessfully apes.

      

       Thank You.

     

       DrFill
  • Let me guess. You just bought a new car? This is the best car EVER!
  • Since you're interested- I drive a '91 Honda.

     

    The FJ is clearly aimed at the frat crowd, i.e. those who want to appear "cool", as opposed to grown men.
  • Maybe the sorority crowd too.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,830
    Well, if the "frat crowd" has some purchasing power and they're buying vehicles, then Toyota needs something that appeals to that market. There are a lot of vehicles out there that don't appeal to me, especially at this stage in my life, but that doesn't mean they're inherently bad.

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  • Anyone seen any interior shots on-line yet of the prototype at the Chicago show?
  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    I thought the prototype (concept) was shown at an autoshow in 2003? This is supposed to be the production version right? Or is this a beta version?

     

    I also see that Toyota has updated their info. on the FX, and have new exterior pictures, but nothing on the interior. Maybe the interior hasn't been finished in time for the show?
  • The one at this auto show is the beta/production version. It is not 100% decided apon. The did show the interior for a second at the release but it looked unfinished. It is likley that many non structural changes will be made by production time.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    no way is this thing going to be $25K to start. They put out a V-6 4x4 Tacoma XtraCab for $22,2 that has the same running gear FJ does, and the two also have comparable levels of standard equipment. Plus the FJ is smaller. I bet the V-6 4x4 will start right around $22K. Which seems just about right to me. I noted with interest that the automatic (5-speed, good choice Toyota) is standard, and the 6-speed manual is optional on the 4x4 only. I wonder if that means they will actually charge extra for the manual in this model.

     

    And I guess Toyota has answered one of my main questions: there will not be a base engine that is smaller than the V-6. I figure this thing has to be at least a little lighter than the Tacoma pick-up, so that V-6 will really light it up.

     

    Locking diff is optional, as are power mirrors, alloy wheels, privacy glass, cruise and all that other jazz. That is good, except I wish the locking diff were standard. But this matches the Tacoma too, so I am not surprised. I figure the FJ configured the way I would want it would be close to $25K.

     

    And for you tow fans, I guess it will tow 5000 pounds, which outstrips the Element (not surprisingly given that the Element is a high-roof car, and this thing is an actual truck).

     

    I very much like the specs they have shown so far, now I await a better look at a production interior. The rubber floors work just fine for me. The standard stereo has separate tweeters, a little thing that I like.

     

    I think they will offer a factory package that includes a winch - it is not surprising it is not standard given that there will be a 4x2 model, and that there will certainly be the snow crowd among the customers for this model, that will not want an extra hundred pounds hanging off their front bumper in the form of a winch they will never use.

     

    There is no reason Toyota should not get back in the Jeep game with a niche model like this that costs them so little: this is basically just a repackaging of the mechanicals for the Tacoma 4x4 truck with a fresh body style. They have always had great trucks, and they should not cede the offroader contingent to the XTerra, even if they ARE only worth perhaps 50K sales a year, or whatever.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • I have an 84 4Runner (first year they came out!) that I'll finally be putting out to pasture if I like the FJ when it'a released. While it's no longer my primary vehicle, the 4Runner is amazing - just keeps trucking with nary a complaint. I'ts been all over he U.S. ... and even spent 3 years in Italy in the mid 80s. And yup - it has a removable top. Will be sad to see it go. Lotsa' memories.

     

    But, the FJ looks like a suitable replacement. Would like to see some interior shots of the car in Chicago.
  • I'd like to see the cargo area, how versatile it is (do the rear seats fold flat, etc) and see how much stuff I could fit back there. Otherwise, I'd consider purchasing it. I think that alot of the "over the top" styling cues will be toned down on the production model.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Toyota has stated (in the press release) that the rear seas do in fact fold flat. As far as space, it is 11" shorter than the new 4Runner, and 4 inches narrower - the way I picture that in my head there ought to be lots of rear cargo space with the seats down.

     

    bpratico: cool truck! I have always been curious about those 4Runners, does the pop-off top leak when you wash it? When I bought mine I thought about getting an older used one with the "convertible", but didn't want to have to deal with the hassle of manually locking hubs. f course, in the new Tacoma and the FJ it is just a dial on the dash - there isn't even a lever to pull any more, let alone hubs to lock.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Re the 84 4Runner:

    Nope - top has never leaked. Also got a sunroof, which has also never leaked. But the interior is now pretty ratty, having hauled dogs in it for years. Still has original paint (gold) and still looks good, having kept wax on it through the years. The cheap plastic covers on storage comparments of the side of the bed are falling apart, and the radio tuner is flaky. But everything else still works.
  • Will it be made in US or Japan?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    the Tacomas at NUMMI in Fremont, CA, so they could conceivably add this model, I guess. Otherwise, the 4Runner is still manufactured in Japan, so that is probably where the FJ would come from.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • I am not what Toyota had in mind for this vehicle (age 50) but my 96 Avalon has 145,000 miles and I always liked the old landcruisers. My cars are always a mess because I enjoy surfcasting and hiking. Maybe its a mid life crises but I would love to be in the FJ. When I first saw a picture in 2003 I got excited but I did not think they would build it. The ride would have to be somewhat comfortable on the highway for me- not like an Avalon but tolerable. So we will see. Still have to talk my wife into it.
  • Overall Length: 177.6

    Overall Width: 74.6

    Overall Height: 70.9

    Wheelbase: 105.9

    Ground Clearance: 9.6

     

    Those stats alone are why this SUV is better than every single SUV out there, which are either too long, too narrow, or both.

     

    And even the ones that come close can't match Toyota quality/price.

     

    As far as the design, it even looks good in that ridiculous blue, imagine it in black or silver.

     

    I've waited a long time for an SUV that can match the VehiCross in terms of style, dimensions, and yes TWO DOORS, and Toyota has finally done it and better.
  • bpraxisbpraxis Posts: 292
    As a 46 year old male some would think that I would not be the target market for the FJ. In my opinion this vehicle will possibly have a broader appeal then Toyota is expecting somewhat like the Element.

     

      The FJ has spectacularly unique individual styling with fun funky details everywhere. A design tour-de-force in my opinion. I have seen pics of the interior and the dash has a mechanical appearance matching the color of the exterior of the truck.

     

      The FJ is going to be a smash hit and I hope that I will be able to negotiate a decent discount in the first year.

     

      It is amazing to me how much fun styling you can buy today for a very modest price. Witness the Mini, The PT Cruiser, the Element, The Scion line, The VW Bug etc and now the FJ Cruiser, Wow. At one time you really had to spend a lot of money to make a design statement. Capitalism is wonderful. And a neighbor of mine just brought home a new Mercedes CLS, Wow.

     

      I have owned a Lotus Esprit Turbo, various Corvettes, Dodge Stealth, 57 T bird, Nissan 280 Z, Masseratti Merek, Toyota Celica, Lexus SC and now the Infiniti FX35.

     

      One other car that looks to be a home run for 2006 is the new Saturn Sky. Cant wait to see that in person also.
  • Since it's not the stud (in design) the last FJ was, and it seems the effort that coulda went to a new Supra was used to make a SIXTH 'Yota SUV (can Scion get one, maybe?), AND it seems to be attracting an aged demographic, I have to give it the Raspberry.

     

       :p

     

       DrFill
  • The kicker: The Celica is going to be cut! The only sports car Toyota is working on is that exotic Lexus that sat on the turntable. That car will cost the buyer six figures!

     

    What about all the young bucks and old bucks who just want a convertible sports car, stick shift, and an engine with some torque instead of whining rpms!

     

    B
  • Once every 20 years or so, GM does something right.

     

       So 'Yota has Echo (Vitz), Corolla (Matrix is not a car to me), Solara, Camry, and Avalon.

     

       So 5 cars, 6 SUV

     

       I guess they're trying to reflect the market!

     

       I still want a car for MEN!

     

       Saturn Sky looks good. New Civic Si. Dodge is for men only.

      

       DrFill
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    so just exactly what is the Matrix, if not a car? LOL

     

    Oh yeah, and you forgot the Prius.

     

    And I think of it more in terms of cars and trucks. For Yota, the count is five trucks, 7 cars, and two wannabe middle-of-the-roaders, the RAV and Highlander, which really can't do anything trucky but do sit tall and look the part, with the consequent loss of fuel economy that entails.

     

    Now we can add one to the trucks count, the FJ. 2006, here we come. I will almost definitely be picking one of these suckers up. But having picked up a first-year Toyota recently (my can-of-loose-bolts '03 Matrix), I will not soon be making the mistake of buying in the first year again. So perhaps my own driveway will not contain an FJ until calendar 2007...

     

    PS After MR2 and Celica go, the next two on the possible mid-future chopping block are Echo and Land Cruiser, so one of each, car and truck. Just in case you wanted to, say, accuse Toyota of being heavily truck-biased...

    :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Too tall, boxy, and useful to be cars. Why it's sales are counted with Corolla makes NO SENSE! They may share a platform and engine, but come on, who they kiddin'!

     

      Yeah, the new Cruiser I guess replaces the Real Cruiser, by 2007 I'd say.

     

      I test drove the Vibe GT. Was a LOT of fun!

     

      Steering wheel seemed welded into the dash, though. Driving became awkward. But roomy!

     

      How can I forget Prius?

     

      I left out Tundra and Tacoma. They definitely aren't cars.

     

      Toyota has become cars are for girls, trucks are for guys. I'm nmot vibin' with them right now.

     

      I'm selling my Civic and looking at the 93 MR2.

     

      But 132k? Guy wants $6k. It's in great shape, but not that much.

     

      I want a Cooper, made by 'Yota!

     

      DrFill
  • Hmm.... i don't really have a problem with 'Yota having a bunch of trucks. I mean, look at Chevy.... or Ford.... well anyway. I hope that Toyota axes the Land Cruiser or makes it a more powerful trim of Sequoia or something. I hope that they make that Supra replacement thingamajig, because cutting the Supra is like cutting an arm off. Then they need to make the Highlander a little more refined, and more clearly a crossover. Then they need to move 4 Runner down in price to compete with the Trailblazer and Explorer. Also, making it a little bigger. Then they could position the FJ in between the Higlander and RAV4 in terms of price. Also, they should add a more powerful 4 cylinder to the RAV4 or make a V-6 option.

     

    As for cars.... Bring back Supra :) Prius rocks. A little more power wouldn't hurt. Camry needs new styling. I guess when you're pumping out 400000 of any car a year it would look boring anyway. Bigger engine in Matrix. More power in Tundra.

     

    I'm done
  • sik99sik99 Posts: 23
    Fill...

     

    Did you not see this?

     

    "Contrary to rumors, Toyota's Supra replacement will in no way, shape or form, bear any resemblance to the Giugiaro-designed Volta concept which appeared in Geneva last March. Toyota does, however, plan on delivering a high-performance sports car along the lines of the departed Supra some time between the end of 2006 and 2007. This two-door, front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sport coupe might be built on an all-new platform, although it's expected that Lexus will not build its own variation. Toyota's luxury subsidiary will instead build its own supercar based on the LF-A concept shown at this year's Detroit auto show. The car will probably be priced from around $30,000 and some sort of prototype could very likely debut at the 2005 Tokyo Motor Show"

     

    http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/toyota/supra/100486034/preview- .html?tid=edmunds.f.mmindex.content.num97.0.all*

     

    Now you can quit whining about your supra. I currently own a 98 4'runner. With the exception of the cupholders, and lack of power(the v-6 is laggy) it is one of the best "trucks" out there. I tell ya what though...I wouldn't trade it for one the new 4'runners. Too mommy-fied for my taste.

     

    For all you comparing a nissan product to a toyota product, you should be ashamed. Don't get me wrong I like nissan styling. Their reliability though leaves something to be desired.

     

    This FJ looks to be a great truck for toyota. Something that can compete with jeep for off-road capability AND still have the piece of mind with toyota reliability.

     

    -SiK99
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