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Future Crown Vic and Grand Marquis

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  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    While I am not an automotive engineer, somehow I cannot believe they cannot update and tweak the current Crown Vic platform/chassis with a 275-300 HP V6 or V8 engine that gets decent gas mileage ( most of the newer cars do not break 30 mpg, so it is not like their engineering is space-age) and update the interior for minimal expense into, say, the early 2000s (not yet 2008) and a little new sheetmetal on the outside...if they can badge engineer at GM, Ford can take a safe and paid-for platform, add some updates at truly minimal expense, advertise a family sedan with safety and decent mpg, and an interior that would attract somebody other than a 60-plus adult...if younger folks can like a CTS/DTS/STS, why can't Ford change some interior design and sheetmetal to not look like your grandfather's Model T and keep the car???

    Once again, Ford's strategy never seems to make much sense to me...
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,304
    I have the memory of the American Labor Movement constantly entitling themselves to more wages and benefits while performing mediocre levels of craftsmanship while their overseas counterparts were supplying us with superior quality products. This chipping away has successfully priced the ALM out of work. To meet the demands of the stockholder, management has cut costs of production by moving manufacturing overseas.

    How ready is the American Labor Movement willing to give up their massive benefits, unrealistic wages, for service performed, & submit to returning to where they were in the 1950's?

    How ready is the American Labor Movement willing to provide higher quality of craftsmanship in exchange for a job that has to pay less in wages and benefits?

    The Middle Class is not willing to recognize what it has done to itself as it still has too much arrogance and pride blinding their vision.
  • Yes, better gas mileage in the Grand Marquis would be nice, but I have no complaint about the horsepower. Lots of so called experts make a big deal that for a V8 engine it does not have much horsepower. Well, I have no problem getting up to speed so it has enough horsepower. I am not an old man and like the interior. I wish the dashboard was all digital though, like older models were. Guess they went back to analog, because they thought people wanted that? I end up always looking at the digital speed display instead of the dial.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    I absolutely HATED the digital dashboards for the speedometer...for the clock, it is OK, but for speed I just like the round analog dials...
  • Not me. Wish it was all digital.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,304
    My 94 Town Car Signature is Digital & I like it over the wife's 95 T Bird analog. It matches the analog tachometer next to it.

    I would trade one of the two digital trip odometers for a digital tach on the TC.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    may digital rest in peace in the scrapheap of automotive history...:):):):):)
  • hwyhobohwyhobo Posts: 263
    I will vote for all analog. For that matter, I am happy with interior and exterior as is. In fact, I hope Ford never changes the exterior of the Merc GM. Continuity would be nice for a change. Instead of making cosmetic changes, make a huge one and offer a plug-in hybrid (PIH) version. Yeah, I know, not yet, but one day.

    Oh, oh, and please offer a wagon. I can't stand SUVs.
  • I think the Grand Marquis is one of the nicest looking cars out there right now. Would someone please tell me what is so great about SUV's, Honda Accords, Toyota Camry's, etc.? I think the large American sedans of the 1970's and 1980's had a lot more style than most cars made now, and the Grand Marquis is the standard bearer now. I'm not an old stick-in-the-mud, as I love futuristic concept cars too, but the cars mentioned bear no resemblance to those.
  • Had 2000 CV Lx, gave it up. Just got 2004 CV Lx Sport with 29,000. It is so similiar to the Maruader...minus the horsepower, I am a proud owner. Is there any good/bad info about this year and model?
  • carthellcarthell Posts: 124
    How ready is the American Labor Movement willing to give up their massive benefits, unrealistic wages, for service performed, & submit to returning to where they were in the 1950's?

    The minute all living costs go down to 1950s levels, sure. But the costs of living have always gone up, therein lies the rub.

    The Middle Class is not willing to recognize what it has done to itself as it still has too much arrogance and pride blinding their vision.

    What's the alternative? I've been in the ranks of the working poor and the completely poor (fortunately not homeless), and everyday life was pretty much spent in frustration. What little dollars that could be saved eventually went away because of a big, necessary expense that would crop up from time to time (often the equivalent the amount saved). I experienced spending "plans" that was so controlled that almost everything was distributed in a Soviet-style rationing scheme (but we ran out of money and food near the end of the month nonetheless). My economic position limited me to living in a really nasty part of town that was fairly abrasive to my physical being and soul (overrun by crime, drugs, trash, noise).

    When I was able to secure a job that paid me enough to escape all of that, I left. When the big expenses come, they are annoyances, not a complete financial reset-to-zero. When I walk out my door, I don't have to worry about getting shot or mugged in my neighborhood. I can afford many things that will make my life comfortable now. I put enough away so (hopefully) I can still have a comfortable life when the work career stops.

    To want and achieve a comfortable life is not arrogance; it definitely beats the alternative. I'm also thinking that you're aiming too low on the totem pole of business. The auto assembler in this country has absolutely no control of how many resources are expended to create a vehicle with quality parts (excluding the Panther platform, based on its dominance in fleets for decades). If the CEOs of the American auto industry back in the '70s, '80s and '90s had put more thought into creating appealing, reliable, fuel-efficient vehicles, the domestics today wouldn't be mired in the fiscal problems that they have.

    Now, having said that...

    I hope the large car platform stays, especially Ford's CV/GM iteration. I did not like the 'Vic until the 1992 MY, when they re-designed the car so it would not look like a assemblage of squares and rectangles on wheels. As a taxi patron, I appreciate the passenger space. I also understand that not all people can fit into anything smaller. My brother, who has long legs, injured himself while trying to get behind the wheel of a Cavalier. He can fit into large trucks, but doesn't have the budget to own a truck that could accommodate his family.
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