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Toyota Tacoma vs Honda Ridgeline

Those of you interested in Frontier vs. Tacoma may want to take a look at Honda's debut pickup truck.

 

http://autoshow.msn.com/as/article.aspx?xml=Honda&shw=autosho- w2005&src=autoshow2005&GT1=5967

 

Ridgeline is powered by a 3.5-liter VTEC V6 engine that produces 255 horsepower and 252 lb-ft of torque, mated to a standard 5-speed automatic transmission. Unlike traditional full-size pickup trucks, the Ridgeline does not have a cargo bed that is separate from the passenger cab; the bed and cab are integrated. So I guess this is an "Explorer-looking" vehicle from Japan.

 

One thing for sure: Honda engineers their work very well.

 

Has anyone seen these at the auto shows as yet? How about a test drive? You can look for these in dealerships in March--only 30 days away.

 

What do you guys think of no mention of a standard transmission?

 

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  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    are inevitable, but until the Ridgeline actually hits the streets, are now pretty much just speculation.

     

    I do think the Ridgeline will cause all the midsize (and full-size) truckmakers many hours of lost sleep, however.

     

    Bob
  • 5553543255535432 Posts: 150
    Have any of you guys seen the Ridgeline in person (maybe in the carshow).My hands are itching to get into a truck but I've passed on the Tacoma x-runner because of the absence of sideairbags even as an option.The Tacoma was plain looking in the pictures but looks great live.Can any of you say the same thing for the Ri8dgeline?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    Have any of you guys seen the Ridgeline in person (maybe in the carshow).

     

    Yep. I crawled all over it at the Detroit show. This vehicle will be HOT! I'm convinced of it. I was there during one of the industry days, those are folks who in some fashion work in the auto industry, or some related industry. Those people were all over the Ridgeline like bees at a bee hive. It was hard to get seat time, but yes, I was able to spend some time in it.

     

    Bob
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    Well, It's the ugliest truck I've seen, and I liked the Element, but it does have some cool features like the in bed trunk, navigation, all wheel drive and some kind of locking rear diff.

     

    Manual trans is also unavailable on the Ridgeline which will be a deal breaker for some.

     

    I don't think I can get past the ugliness. The Tacoma is a beauty compared to the Ridgeline, and I'm sure the Taco is much more capable off road.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 487
    This topic should have been broadened a little bit. I am interested in getting a crew cab pickup, and right now for me, the Frontier is also in the running along with the Tacoma and Ridgeline.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    I agree. I should include all the mid-size trucks.

     

    Bob
  • Not sure why you couldn't get the side airbags, but I had them installed in a Tacoma 4x4 Double-cab long bed. They are still building it, but the dealer called me 2 weeks to ask if I wanted to add it in.

     

    B
  • Wait....this is almost too good...You liked the Element, and you thought the Ridgeline was UGLY? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. I bet you think the Assteck is the best looking SUV out there, huh?

     

    Man, I'd hate to see what you consider ugly...
  • Hey man, the Element is Hummeresque in it's way. It looks like a modern safari vehicle or baby Hummer. It's beauty is in it's practicality. That being said, I'm buying a Tacoma Sport package because it's a true work of automotive art, and the oil filter is actually accessible.....and the Ridgeline is still butt ugly, as is the Asstek. So there. :)
  • 5553543255535432 Posts: 150
    I did a research and I haven't yet seen what the heck is an ASSTEK.Is that a cross between a donkey, horse and steak?

    I was so close to buying a Tacoma X-runner, but the Ridgeline was worth the wait, saw one in Northeast Honda in MD. I was discouraged in the pictures but was impress with in in person.The Tacoma looks like a pretty metrosexual boy next to the ruggedly handsome Ridgeline.

     

    P.S

    The Toyota always garners top honors in the absence of a Honda contender. The Sienna was top dog for a while till the redesigned Odyssey entered the fray. The Truck of the year award was a joke, coz the Tacoma got it in the absence of the Ridgeline.Enjoy your rigged award coz it's the last time Toyota sees it.By the way the Pilot is on a roll, it joined CD's 5 best trucks 3 yrs in a row.I'ts amazing how Honda, a tiny company steals the thunder from Toyota, a company so big with Biliion dollar pockets.I won't be surprise if the Ridgeline eliminates your pretty Tacoma in 5 best trucks by CD.
  • The Asstek is the Pontiac Aztek. Well, I look forward to seeing the Ridgeline in person. I wasn't that impressed with the Tacoma styling until I saw it in person. Still hard to believe it will overcome the pics I've seen. We'll see.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    that the Ridgeline is not for those who have to "impress" others with their ride. It's for the buyer who knows what he/she needs in a pickup. It's not huge. It doesn't reek of "machismo." It is, however, one of the most useful and practical new vehicles ever to come down the pike. And, it will cause many automaker executives in Detroit and Toyko many hours of lost sleep.

     

    I couldn't agree more.

     

    Bob
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,442
    toyota has worked for years on their reputation in trucks. i don't think honda is going to topple them too easily. i just think you have to give toyota some credit.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    There's nothing terribly wrong with the Tacoma, but it's a case of just more of the same, of what's gone before. Been there. Done that.

     

    The new Ridgeline injects some new and creative thinking into a class of vehicle that has been sorely lacking in that department.

     

    Bob
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,442
    i view a pickup as a very flexible platform. how does the 'ridge improve upon that? i still stick to my opinion that they answered a question nobody asked. do you or have you ever owned a pickup? i'm just curious, not trying to cause a conflict. your opinion is valid, i'm just interested on what you base it on.
  • Well, I was going to buy a 05 Taco sports package, but now after spending a significant amount of time on the Ridgeline site, I'm going to wait at least till I've seen the Ridgeline in person. Honda has come out ahead of the Tacoma at least in features. It appears to be a city all wheel drive pickup, but then Honda throws a serious offroad feature like a locking rear diff on it as a standard feature on all Ridgelines, which toyota puts only on their offroad package, though the Ridgeline has a inch less clearance. The 4 wheel drive kicks in automatically which I think is more appealing than a partime system which could be damaged on dry pavement if left engaged accidently.

     

    Their tow package is also standard on all Ridgelines. It's available only as a feature in Toyotas 3,000 dollar offroad or sports package

     

    Hondas new bed design beats Tacoma all to hell with their great inbed trunk and a tail gate that opens in 2 directions. No more climbing in to your bed over your tail gate. This is the most innovative thing I've seen in a pickup bed, and the spare is actually accessible easily.

     

    Leather interior, navigation, moonroof are available. These features are absent on the tacoma. What's up Toyota!? Are we in the new Millenium are not? Get with the program.

     

    Ridgeline has a independent 4 wheel suspension delivering a true Sedan ride on a truck!

     

    The only innovative I see on the 05 Taco is the new composite bed, of which I've seen a pic of one cracked (probably due to owner retardation, but it wouldn't have happened if it were steel). they also have available a 120 volt 400watt receptacle in the bed which is kind of cool, though I'm not sure what I would use it for.

     

    Just a little thing, but the Rideline has a locking gas door, unlike the free access to all gas cap on the Taco. Yeah, I'm paranoid. Just don't piss any kids off in your nieghborhood if you have a Taco.

     

    All this said I'm still leaning toward the Taco, but they better cut me one hell of a deal Mr. Toyota dealer, because it won't take much to nudge me over to the Ridgeline.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,442
    gearhead1, looks like the 'ridge will work for you. hope you enjoy whatever you buy. based on your comments, i'm not sure why you are buying a pickup type vehicle. whatever your reasons are, they are ok with me, i just am not sure what they are.
  • I don't think I mentioned my use requirements, but if you need to haul, the Rideline will allow 4x8 buiding material to lie flat in the bed unlike the Taco.

     

    I've driven a Toyota 2wd pickup for the last 14 years and I love it. Never had a problem. It's that relationship that compells me to still lean towards Toyota, and the new Tacos look great.

     

    I now have needs that require hauling and off road access more than ever.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    do you or have you ever owned a pickup? i'm just curious, not trying to cause a conflict. your opinion is valid, i'm just interested on what you base it on.

     

    Yes. I used to own a '86 F-150 4x4. I had it for roughly 10 years. I don't currently own a pickup, but I follow them very closely. I've also examined the Ridgeline up close, both at Detroit, and again yesterday at Philly.

     

    The rear 2-way tailgate and bed trunk are ingenious. Those features are only possible thanks to the IRS (again, long overdue on pickups) on the Ridgeline. I think you need to examine one at your local car show, or wait for them to show up at Honda dealers next month. I think once you see it firsthand, you'll see what I'm saying. This vehicle is going to rewrite the game plan for family-oriented pickups. It's not perfect. There are several features missing that I wish it had; but it is mighty close to being perfect.

     

    Bob
  • It look like a nice vehicle, all of these goodies cool stuff. But all of those things sure will come at a price. I am seeing reports of the vehicle starting at around 27,000 remember the taco 4 dr rwd start at around 22,000.

    I think the Honda Ridgeline and the Toyota Tundra should be the one going head to head.

    greetings

    fig.

    ps. I bough a taco 2wd a/t sport pack .for 24,200 will be in next week.
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