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Toyota Tacoma vs Honda Ridgeline

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  • fmontanafmontana Posts: 2
    "How do you change a flat, or get something else you need out of the trunk with a load in the bed?"

    To change a flat it is simple. Before you load the bed of the truck, remove the spare tire and mount it in the bed in the provided mounting holes. You have to think ahead obviously. While you are doing that you can move any items in the trunk you might need to the area behind the front seats.

    Simple.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    He said that 95% of people buying them never put anything in the bed.

    ........which is just like the rest of the truck buying population. Stop pretending even most truck buyers use their trucks. I live in the heart of truck country and seldom see anything in the bed of that full size domestic truck that wouldn't fit In my Fit just as easily.

    sighting of the day: some woman hauling only a baby stroller in a HD Ford 250 turbo diesel.

    I'm not sure, but I think my Fit could have done that and got 33 mpg doing it as well.

    America, gotta love it, and super size it as well.

    You want to haul gravel? The lanscape people will deliver it for practically free. I wouldn't dirty and ding my F250 if I had one with that stuff.

    Want to haul thousands of pounds of 4x8 anything? Guess what? Professional builders just have the supplier deliver it to the building sight.

    I had some contractors at my house the other day and they flipped over my Ridgeline. Especially the tail gate and trunk. They looooved it. They couldn't believe how cool it was. Just goes to show ya, people that really use truck appreciate the ridgeline greatly.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Silly, but relevant.

    I was talking trucks with my neighbor, who owns a big Silverado (dunno which specific model). He's had a hard tonneau on for the 4 years I've lived there. I was telling him about the trunk under the Ridgeline's bed and he just couldn't picture it.

    He goes to open the tonneau so I can point out exactly where the trunk would be, how big it is, etc. But he can't remember how to open it. Best I can figure, nothing has touched the Silverado's bed in years. :sick:
  • wooddorkerwooddorker Posts: 300
    "had some contractors at my house the other day and they flipped over my Ridgeline. Especially the tail gate and trunk. They looooved it. They couldn't believe how cool it was. Just goes to show ya, people that really use truck appreciate the ridgeline greatly."

    Great!

    I'm also a contractor, and it didn't float my boat... :D
  • silversvtsilversvt Posts: 7
    So I told you that I really wanted a 2007 Tundra. But since they don't make them yet, I was trying to decide between the Tacoma and the Ridgeline.

    I researched each truck. I wanted leather and I now live in San Diego. (If I still lived in Oklahoma I could order a Taco with leather). I drove each truck and was not overly impressed with either one. My last truck was a 2002 Ford Lightning and every other truck just feels slugish compared to it.

    I wanted 4 doors, rear seat leg room, leather, and good resale value. The slow sales of the ridgeline worried me a bit, but I thought that the rear seat leg room in the Taco was Unacceptable. I even like the styling of the Taco a bit more. I went with the Ridgeline thinking it would be a good compromise.

    I had negotiated a deal of $27,600 (in mid April)for Silver RTL no moonroof. I told the salesman that on average I like to get a different vehicle every 18-24 months. He mentioned that I could get a 24 month lease. I went with the lease. My payments are almost exactly what they would have been if I bought the truck. But I do not have to worry about resale. I,ll just give it back to them in 24 months, or trade early for a new tundra.

    Suprise, Suprise. I love my Ridgeline more and more with each day. For somone that was not impressed with his first drive, I am now quite taken with it. I actually enjoy driving it now. I open all 5 power windows and enjoy the cool San Diego Breeze. It is a real attention-getter as well. Everyone wants to see the Trunk and the two-way opening talegate. I might even regret having to give it up here in 2 years.

    Silver SVT
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    I'm also a contractor, and it didn't float my boat...

    It's not supposed to float your boat. It's supposed to tow it.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    I might even regret having to give it up here in 2 years.

    Silver SVT


    Nah, just trade it in on the 4.0 litre, 300hp Ridgeline turbo diesel with cylinder deactivation. :D

    ...just trying to throw out some ideas to Honda here. They are working on a V6 diesel though. It will be interesting to see the specs on it.
  • ustazzafustazzaf Posts: 311
    ........which is just like the rest of the truck buying population. Stop pretending even most truck buyers use their trucks. I live in the heart of truck country and seldom see anything in the bed of that full size domestic truck that wouldn't fit In my Fit just as easily

    Truck country is down on the farm where the truck is used for what it was designed. You must be in wannabe truck country. The Ridge might work well as a commuter in the suburbs, but I will take a Toy or Fronty when I want to haul a load of feed home from the mill or a load of barbed wire and posts to the pasture. Would get tired of moving the tire on a daily basis. Plus triple A hates coming out to the farm.

    You want to haul gravel? The lanscape people will deliver it for practically free. I wouldn't dirty and ding my F250 if I had one with that stuff.
    That is why they make bedliners. I didn't buy a truck so I could pay someone else to haul my stuff. Sure, if I am building a house, they can bring the materials out.

    sighting of the day: some woman hauling only a baby stroller in a HD Ford 250 turbo diesel.
    Maybe she has a big camper in the yard and it is not cost effective to have 2 vehicles. I don't have my truck loaded all the time either, but when I need it, it is there.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Can't fake the four letter words either... not allowed!

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • Like any major purchase (or even small for some) one should research all available data. Also, one should outline the goals, needs, wants and desires of their purchase. Major automotive magazines, Consumer Reports, test drives, appeal, MPG, resale, reliability; these are some of the major variables/factors used in determining the worth of a vehicle purchase. What I tend to see on these blogs is some individuals take just one of these factors or maybe a couple and ride that to the ground when debating or making accusations. I can't debate with someone whether the Tacoma is better looking that a Ridgeline or not (though, to me, it seems pretty cut and dry) but I can talk gas mileage, reliability, resale, road tests, etc. I think you would be very, very alone trying to argue that the Tacoma is going to get beat overall in a ratings review competition (and I am talking about something objective by 3rd party evaluators). Maybe the Ridgeline is a very good truck however, that would be a risk as Honda is so new to the truck game. Toyota is a seasoned and leading veteran. Reliability is AVERAGE for the Ridgeline. Dealers can't seem to give them away (I am speaking from personal experience; as I was leaving the dealer just kept lowering, and lowering, and lowering the price to keep me from exiting). My point is; it is common knowledge amongst a somewhat elite core group of people to NEVER EVER buy a version 1.0 of ANYTHING. Whether it be software, mp3 players, tv's, or vehicles. Let them work the bugs out THEN make your purchase after the data comes back. Version 1.X is always the smart buy.
    Yes, the Ridgeline is new and definitely not the most attractive vehicle but you shouldn't argue that it is better than the Tacoma because most of the MAJOR criteria used to evaluate vehicles is already in and it definitely points to the Tacoma. Just say you like it because of what it has and it's different not better.
  • most of the MAJOR criteria used to evaluate vehicles is already in

    You are so right about that.

    Honda Ridgeline awards

    -Motor Trend truck of the year 2006
    -North American Truck of the year 2006
    -Detroit News truck of the year 2006
    -Consumer Reports top rated truck
    -JD Power & Associates 2005 APEAL award for the Honda Ridgeline
    -Autobytel 2006 Editors' Choice Award: Truck of the year 2006
    -Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) Best New Pickup 2006
    -On Wheels Incorporated: Ridgeline 2006 Urban Wheel Award for the Urban Truck of the Year
    -Ridgeline wins Strategic Vision's coveted "Most Delightful" compact pickup award.
    -best rollover resistance rating of any pickup tested by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
    -first-ever 4-door pickup to earn a 5-star safety rating for both front and side impact crash test performance from the U.S. National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA).
    -Society of Plastic Engineers 2005 Grand Award (composite inbed trunk)
    -Car And Driver Rates Honda Ridgeline #1 Pickup.
    - AutoWeek Editors' Choice Award as the 'Most Significant' new vehicle in the show
    -Maxim Truck Of The Year 2006
    -Autoweb.com top ten tailgater


    The MAJOR criteria used to evaluate vehicles is already in and it definitely points to the Ridgeline. Just say you like the Tacoma because of what it has and it's different not better.

    I've driven the Ridgeline going on 2 years off road, hauling etc., and it is one excellent truck. The only area the Tacoma will edge out the Ridgeline is off road because it has more clearence. For on road very bad winter conditions, the Ridgeline can't be beat.
  • The Ridgeline and Tacoma are really in a different class and size. The ridgeline has a full size interior while the Tacoma is mini truck size.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    I think that the Ridgeline is a wonderful truck, albeit a tad expensive. But, people should not compare off-roading abilities with the Taco. These two trucks are very, very different animals, and the Tacoma is a true off-roader.
  • Hondas are not going for anywhere close to sticker price. The last thing I remember hearing was a $1,500 rebate, that right guys?
  • novanova Posts: 135
    As of March 1 ,2007 the dealer cash has been raised another $ 500.00 to $ 2000.00 now. Now seems to be a good time to buy a Ridgeline. I bought my ridgeline RTX last month, 1000 miles lovin every minute
  • roaddog2roaddog2 Posts: 13
    Since this is a comparison, here's a short list of the must have stuff my Ridge gives me that the Tacoma wouldn't:

    leather, heated front seats, power driver seat, dual zone auto climate control, heated windshield glass at wiper rest point (very important where I live), traction control, Vehicle stability assist, air bags and air curtains all around, sub-woofer, power rear sliding window (a must for crew cabs), brake assist, full width bed for laying plywood and drywall flat, power sunroof, VTM-4 (call it AWD if you want),

    The tacoma offers stuff that the R-line doesn't but I don't miss those. And that goes for the bed length. At 6' the Tacoma is 18" longer than the Ridge which makes it a pain to maneuver and you can't properly load plywood or drywall without modifications.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Serious question. Compare the pilot to the ridgeline for your needs excluding the extra ease of loading/unloading the sheet material,thanks.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    So how big do you think the Diesel will be? I vote for 3.0 liters. What do you think?
  • toytruck1toytruck1 Posts: 5
    I traded my 2006 Tacoma 2wd DblCab Off Road for a 2007 Ridgeline. I was worried regarding some of the "leaking" posts along with other problems (struts), but after hanging around the Tacoma forum, I know that ALL vehicles have issues, including my Tacoma. I decided to go for it. I recouped within $500 of price paid new for the Taco, and RL's being soft, $5,000 off the Honda. I know I'll have to keep this or face losing more $$, but I LOVE this vehicle. A trunk, dual climate control, power seat, decent stereo, wheel controls and I'm a happy camper. A lot of vehicle for 26K.

    Mileage is within 1mpg of the Tacoma. Handling is far better although I am less inclined to "toss" this vehicle (4500# vs 4000#) around like I did the Toyota. Tacoma is more of the "sports car" between the two, but the ride was way bouncier. Room inside the Ridgeline is comparable to my 02 Ram QuadCab, but maneuvering is far easier.

    I shall have my hitch and wiring in in about 2 weeks, so the next thing to report will be the towing behavior. From what I've read from others, the RL is a great tow vehicle. Honda should be applauded for taking this direction--a Hondamino.
  • I'm looking to pick up a truck in December, so i've begun the process of test driving.
    In the past week, I have driven a Tacoma, a Frontier, a Explorer Sport-Trac, and today, I drove a Ridgeline.
    First of all, the Ridgeline is easily the best all around vehicle. The ride, the interior looks, the features, the noise level are all superior then the other trucks. Now the question is whether its worth the extra 3-5K.
    Before I began all the test drives, I would have bet that I would end up in a Tacoma. Now I'm not so sure.
    The Taco handled Ok, but I did not like the site lines, and felt the engine noise was loud. I'm actually thinking of trying another test drive in case I got a lemon.
    The Frontier was much better then expected. The noise levels were almost as good as the Ridgeline. It actually felt better then the Taco. And I may still be able to get a deal on an 07, because they are not moving at the local dealerships.
    The Sport-trac is now off my list. The engine noise was pretty loud for city speed, but was much quieter on the highway. The brakes were very squishy. The real problem is that the local dealerships are keeping a very low inventory of the trucks. I used an inventory search engine and found less then 20 Sport-Tracs for the entire metro area (which has over 8 million people). Not going to get any good deals with those kind of numbers.
    So, after this round of test drives, I would bet I end up in a Frontier, with the hope that Honda may have a good deal pop up for December (not a great possibility, but no unheard of).
  • if you really want the sport-trac
    you should able to get a low low price... no one buys them!!!
    Just like the rangers!! no one is buying them!!

    they want to get ride of the lot!! But Sport Trac and Ranger can't do other companies do...
    with Blistein shocks..or rear lock differential

    I was looking to buy a tacoma... but I need to buy a house instead before i get one i guess..

    Man i just wish i make more money!
  • felixdacat13, I purchased a Ridgeline back in December 2005 after test driving the Tacoma and Frontier. The Tacoma and Frontier were both nice vehicles and I actually preferred the styling and horsepower of both to the Ridgeline; however, when it came down to functionality, the Ridgeline I felt won hands down. If you shop around, you should be able to get a good deal on any one of these trucks right now. When I purchased my Ridgeline (RTL) back in 2005, I got nearly $5,000 off MSRP. Also, like you, I felt the engine noise of the Tacoma was louder than I thought it should be (mostly when accelerating). I had owned a 2001 Tacoma and thought they could have improved more in this area when they did their redesign. Good luck with your shopping.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Wow, it's empty in here... I thnk I hear an echo!

    Anybody still cross-shopping these?
  • sparklandsparkland Posts: 108
    Here is why the Ridgeline should be considered by all those thinking about purchasing a pickup. These two people in the Ridgeline survived this crash because of the safety features included in the Honda. Scroll down to the bottom of the page in the link.

    http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/miscellaneous-general-honda-ridgeline-- discussions/21863-my-ridgeline-saved-my-life-2.html

    Brad
  • I recently bought a 09 Jetta TDI for my wife.I drive a 95 Silverado Stepside.I need a new truck and I don't want an ethenol burner.I like the Ram with the Cummins,but it seems like an overkill for my purpose.I've looked at the Ridgeline and I like what I see.If it came with a good diesel setup,I'd probably buy it. PS:The 09 Jetta TDI is Awesome!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    What do you mean "Ethanol Burner?" A Flexible-Fuel vehicle?

    May I ask why you don't want one?
  • No,not exactly.I mean anything that burns gasoline and whatever else our congress decides we should put into it,whether or not it makes economic sense.The diesel engine has always been a flex-fuel engine.Old Rudolf Diesel's first one ran on peanut oil.Diesel engines have long been more efficient,and longer lasting than gas engines,and now modern diesel technology has made them cleaner than gas engines.Our options are broader with diesels.We now run mostly on kerosene,but coal-to-liquid is another option.(check out Sasol in South Africa,and Rentech in the United States).Synthetic Diesel from natural gas is also feasable,as is Bio-Diesel from a variety of plants.Jatropha probably holds the most promise there,but soy,canola,and palm oil work too.All of these forms of fuel can be blended and substituted without any changes in the engines, and can be shipped through conventional pipelines.Ethanol can't,and makes no sense.
  • Toyota and Honda both make the best vehicles out there, if you don't believe me look at any reliability chart in any year consumer reports auto edition for your answer, but for how much $ is it worth it? I own a ford love it, I know guys with dodge, chevy, swear buy em', it's funny some people just have the're brand. But it's a fact that these trucks are awesome. In my own research I particularly like the 2005+ double cab tacoma with 4x4 trd longbed. I like this truck because it is the best on gas, its toyota, its sharp looking etc. but the prices are high and stay there. I just test drove a 2004 tacoma doublecab with 16000 miles on it! They wanted 20! It's ridiculous! You can by a slightly used one for about 20k! The newer design in 05' really does set a benchmark for other automakers, Honda took a different direction with a unibody to give it car like handling and its also about 1000 lbs. lighter than a tacoma or frontier. Its not as off road capable, but the majority of us don't do too much off roadin', or not nearly enough as we want too! That truck idea in the Ridgeline is awesome, and leather and nav. and a locking rear dif. is a nice touch. (RTL) but to get 20+ hwy and 16+ city in a full size truck with 4 full size doors and a bed in any truck is amazing. The honda and toyota's are best at mpg's. Which matters more than ever. Look at the comparison charts on autotrader! I take some mpgs with a grain of salt but still the specs. don't lye. So if a tacoma gets 1 mpg more than honda, and it weighs 1000 lbs more thats something. The engines .5 liter bigger at 4.0 but that's dam good. The honda although puts out 255 hp at 5600rpm which is very impressive for a 3.5L V6. Here is where my thinking comes in...Tacoma 05+ can be long bed 141" wheel base = nicer ride. Ridgeline short bed 122" WB. 17" wheels on some ( same as trd sport tires=$$). Caps look weird and are pricey on that ridgeline. Toyota 05'+ V6 is a timing chain, ridgeline all...belt. If you drive 20000 miles a year that 1 mpg or more adds up. Gas is around $4 and it ain't goin' down. If you have this truck for 5 years that's 100000 miles, or a difference of about $1000 in gas alone. Or maybe your not keeping it forever and don't care, but In that honda now (105000) need to change the timing belt, which while your doin' that you might as well do the serpentine belt, plugs, idler, waterpump, etc. $$$, while that Tacoma won't need a timing belt. I've never heard of changing a timing chain cause the last too long. So the question is do you need a long bed, off road capability or do you like a trunk and maybe nav. and leather? But of course it all comes down to $. If the Ridgeline is the same year and mileage as a Tacoma and is 5k less I'd buy it. They do come with more standard options than Tacomas. Look.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Was recently thumbing through a 2013 Consumers Guide, Automotive addition.

    Not many "Midsize" Trucks left, but they picked the Ridgeline as their first choice. Frontier as second choice.

    Interestingly enough they said, the Tacoma is NOT RECOMMENDED.

    Cramped cabin, low seating position, noisy engine, spongy brakes, and "jiggle" ride were among their complaints. Only adjustment on the seats is forward and rearward and the seat back tilts. The did say the 4WD models are very good at off road work.

    Read somewhere that 95+% of P/U drivers never encounter more than a dirt road for their adventures.

    We tow a camper in the 3000# range, and the '09 Ridgeline handles it fine.
    Some of that involves the Smokey Mountains with 7% and 8% grades and it handles that way better than I thought it would. Actually maintained the 55 mph speed, although it had dropped back to 2nd gear and 5500RPM for the nearly 3 miles. Same thing coming back. Have done that on 3 different occasions.

    Sitting around campfires and talking with those towing similar size and weight of campers with Tacoma, Frontiers, and V6 Dakotas, it seems they pretty much experienced the same. Even those with full size P/Us with small V8s said the engines had to "WORK" on those grades.

    RL is rated to Tow 5K and Tacoma is rated at 6K. Personally, if my camper weighed 6K I would be towing with a V8.

    Most of the folks I've talked with said they have never driven a Ridgeline, "because they don't LOOK like real P/U trucks".
    I personally don't care for the "Look" of the RL behind the rear side door, but I can't see that when I'm driving it.

    In a recent trip from Atlanta to Indiana with the bed full of stuff, and the cruise doing most of the work we got 23.9 MPG driving the posted speed limits. Returning with an empty bed at posted speed limits and cruise, it was 25 mpg. Maybe a 4WD Tacoma will equal that, and maybe not.

    The wife has a '09 Toyota Rav4 Sport. We have used it on trips, but we both prefer to use the Ridgeline. Although the Rav4 gets 5-6 better MPG. The RL is simply more comfortable, to us.

    One poster said the RL looks odd with the camper shell on the back, and I agree. But I've had those shells on P/Us in the past, and getting to stuff next to the cab is difficult. Rather than do that I prefer an SUV.

    Getting to stuff next to the cab is a lot easier with the RL tailgate swung to the side than leaning over a traditional tailgate in the open position.

    Likely true that the RL only makes up 1% of Honda sales. WHY?

    THEY DON'T ADVERTISE THEM! If Honda would offer some kind of incentive to get folks to actually drive a RL, I believe the sales would increase tremendously.

    My understanding is that the Ridgeline will not be offered for 2014. But will return in 2015, with many issues addressed.

    Just my 2 cents worth.

    Kip
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