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2006 Toyota RAV4

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  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    While Toyota claims improved ride and handling, I wonder if the new RAV4 will have the same nimble handling that the current one does? The current RAV4 has been generally praised in the automotive press and by its owners as being probably the most fun-to-drive small SUV. Hopefully the significant upsizing of the 2006 RAV4 doesn't cause this characteristic to vanish. Sure, the new 268-hp V6 will help make it fun, but it's more than just straight-line acceleration.

    I guess (and it's only a guess) that the next Highlander doesn't have to be a Pacifica-style vehicle. It could also be a larger-mid-sized platform, like the Honda Pilot.

    I still have the 2006 RAV4 on my short list, but it's going to take some reviews and personal test drives to get an idea of what it's like to drive.
  • But what will come from Toyota that is smaller... Next.

    Scion xB replacement?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    is that they seem to be announcing a new type of AWD, maybe a SAFE rear wheel torque biased one?

    And I wonder is we will ever see a Lexus version of the RAV4? Maybe with the stick shift still available?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I didnt expect the 4 with a 6 speed (although that would have been awesome), but FOUR speeds is pretty behind the curve, especially with a growing emphasis on fuel efficiency. As someone else stated, the Camry 4 is already mated to the 5A, that the RAV with a more advanced engine ISNT, is lame.

    OPTIONAL side curtains in 2006 is just plain absurd.

    ~alpha
  • 268HP, over a foot bigger, plenty of standard safety equipment, here in time for X-mas, but I'm not feelin' any love, Alpha! :(

    Show some love. :)

    DrFill
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    "... plenty of standard safety equipment, here in time for X-mas."

    There's plenty of safety equipment, but it's not all standard. Front driver/passenger side airbags are optional, as are side-curtain airbags for the first and second rows (but not the third row for vehicles so equipped, apparently). Manufacturers are starting to make these features standard.

    Doesn't look like the V6 will be here in time for Xmas, either! :)

    I'm cautiously optimistic. I like the power, but am concerned about how big the compact RAV4 has become, and what the price will be like on a loaded V6.
  • But VSC, ABS, BA, EBD, Dual SRS, seatbelt pre-tentioners, that should be enough to keep the pitchforks out of our hands.

    Hyundai HAS TO give away every safety item for no extra charge.

    Toyota has earned the right to make A COUPLE of items optional.

    And they are still well ahead of the curve.

    V6/MT?

    DrFill
  • I was considering an 06 Highlander a while back, mistakenly thinking that they would update it with more power (3.5L out of the Avalon) and a bit more style. Little did I know that the vehicle I was looking for would be the 06 Rav4!

    It is only natural that the next Highlander would grow in size to be a medium-large crossover, especially since the nearly unusable 3rd row seat is standard on all current V-6 AWD Highlanders, which is ridiculous. Toyota seems to have a fascination with 3rd row seats for every SUV they make. At least in the Pilot and Explorer, the seats are tolerable for some distance for people over the age of 5.

    Hopefully the 3rd row seats will be "less standard" on the new RAV4.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    "But VSC, ABS, BA, EBD, Dual SRS, seatbelt pre-tentioners, that should be enough to keep the pitchforks out of our hands.

    "Toyota has earned the right to make A COUPLE of items optional."

    "And they are still well ahead of the curve."

    You're kidding, right? Those features are pretty common in a lot of sedans in this price range. And Honda CR-V's (not Hyundai's) have VSA, ABS, EBD, Dual SRS, pretensioners, and front side airbags and side curtain airbags as standard equipment. Since the 2006 RAV4 is a new generation, it should at least go this far.

    Here's how the old RAV4 did without the optional front side and side-curtain airbags:

    http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=278

    Here's how the old RAV4 did with the optional front side and side-curtain airbags:

    http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=258

    Shame on Toyota for not making them standard like Honda does.

    (Putting pitchfork away.)
  • The new RAV4 is hot. I couldn't believe my eyes when it said that it was getting the Avalon's V6!

    That's sweet, no matter what the cost. If you want to keep the cost down then hold back on superfluous (usually useless) items such as leather seats, which usually come with an expensive Toyota option combo package.

    Boy, with all the new Toyotas coming out in the next 1-1.5 years, it's going to be a difficult decision for me what to buy!
  • I'd rather have 268HP V6 option and Side SRS option than NO 268HP option, but side SRS STD.

    Toyota and Honda both build vehicles with a finite budget in order to turn a profit.

    Putting the Side SRS may have been cost-prohibitive, given the cost of instituting the new V6, and building the vehicle to handle the power.

    Honda has always built vehicles with a high features list STD, but a higher base price for these STD. features.

    Toyota has a lower base price, but prices rise quickly with more features. They give you the OPTION to have these features if you want.

    Side SRS is no dealbreaker for many buyers.

    Severe side-impact crashes actually make up a small percentage of total crashes. It would be nice to have them std. But I would use the V6 more.

    I'm confident Toyota has seen the crash tests score sof the previous Rav4, and made vast improvements. To go along with their other attributes, Toyotas generally are leaders in crash tests as well, throughout their product line.

    DrFill
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    The concept of these things being "optional" is something of a myth. Toyota regions usually force bundles of options together. It looks cheaper on the website, until you see what your region bundles together.

    E.g. in many regions, it'll probably be very difficult to buy a V6 RAV4 with good options, without front side airbags and side curtain airbags. So it still won't be cheap.

    "Side SRS is no dealbreaker for many buyers. Severe side-impact crashes actually make up a small percentage of total crashes. It would be nice to have them std."

    That's a false sense of security, and based on last century's designs. In vehicle-against-vehicle collisions, side-impact crashes now make up the majority of deaths.

    In crashes with another passenger vehicle, 51 percent of driver deaths in recent model cars during 2000-01 occurred in side impacts, up from 31 percent in 1980-81. During the same time, the proportion of deaths in frontal impacts declined from 61 percent to 43 percent.

    These changes are attributable to two effects. There have been significant improvements in frontal crash protection — standard airbags, improved structural designs, and higher belt use rates, for example. At the same time, growing sales of SUVs and pickups have exacerbated height mismatches among passenger vehicles, thereby increasing the risks to occupants of many vehicles struck in the side. In crashes between cars and other passenger vehicles during 2000-01, almost 60 percent of the driver deaths in the cars struck on the driver side were hit by SUVs or pickups — up from about 30 percent during 1980-81.


    Source: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/side_test_info.html

    "I'm confident Toyota has seen the crash tests score sof the previous Rav4, and made vast improvements. To go along with their other attributes, Toyotas generally are leaders in crash tests as well, throughout their product line."

    That's another false sense of security. To date, no vehicle in the IIHS side-impact test has scored well without having front side and head-protection airbags. I'm sure Toyota has improved the RAV4 as well, but you still need the airbags.
  • Three issues I had with my 1999 Rav4 was weak engine, dimensions a little too small and a $300 charge every 15,000 miles due to defective engine design with the iac valve. Thats why I got rid of it.

    I like the added dimensions but wouldnt consider purchasing a first year 2006 RAV4 until the bugs are worked out.

    I'm a fan of V6 engines over 4-cyclinders. But why put such a powerful engine in this SUV. I would have rather seen a V6 sized like the one for the future 2006 Lexus IS250 sedan (2.5 litre), which is more fuel efficient. Overall, this RAV4 isnt winning me over.
  • Is this picture real????? It shows the RAV4 with bluetooth, navi, and push button start.

    http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2859/interior3gq.jpg
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    may have fallen prey to the notion that "bigger is always better" with this new RAV.

    It is good that Toyota is making ABS and VSC standard in all its SUVs now, but given the crash test results we are seeing, they need to include the side air curtains, ESPECIALLY if all three-row RAVs are going to have them standard. Sheesh.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • And, yeah, that must be a Euro-spec Rav4.

    I wouldn't expect all that at launch, but it'll get there.

    DrFill
  • sr45sr45 Posts: 144
    Anyone know what the MPG will be for the new Rav ? ?
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    I assume the 4 cyl models will be about the same or 1-2MPG lower (due to the growth in size/weight) and the V6 to be a little lower than the Avalon numbers for FWD and another 2-3MPG lower than that for AWD models.

    Toyota has matched the CR-V in terms of size but at the cost of canabalizing the sales within its own SUV lineup? :confuse:
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    well it sure does seem that once the V-6 RAV gets to dealers in February, all sales of the last model year run of the Highlander will instantly cease...

    I guess when the new Highlander comes next fall, it will also have to get a lot bigger, and then what of the 4Runner? Two vehicles the same size, one truck-based, one not? Maybe they can still sell side-by-side, but I am sure Runner sales will be greatly reduced.

    I sure wish they were contemplating selling a shorter wheelbase version of the new RAV - they could call it the "Sport". What is it with this enormous fascination over third row seats the market has these days? Not everyone wants three rows!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • toycashtoycash Posts: 139
    I'm not sure the V6 will be less than the Avalon. A FWD RAV4 will probably still weigh less than an Avalon, and the new RAV has a .31 drag coefficient. As for sales, it may temporarily, but the 2007 Highlander is also going up in size.

    By the way, the guy that wrote the Frankfurt Auto Show article needs to read the press release. There were a bunch of errors in there, like saying it was a 2.0 liter 4cyl only, with 155 horsepower.
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