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2006 Toyota RAV4



  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    I think complaints about the RAV4's third row should be placed in perspective. Ultimately we're talking about a compact SUV growing into the smaller side of a mid-sized SUV. You can't get adult-size, third-row comfort in a larger mid-sized SUV either. There just isn't the room (e.g. see the Honda Pilot/Acura MDX, which is bigger than most mid-sized SUV's; it's still tight back there). It simply takes a full-sized SUV or a minivan.

    Thus if one really needs to cart around so many folks in comfort on a regular basis, a minivan or full-sized SUV is definitely the right path to go.

    The RAV4's third row is going to be awfully cramped, that's for sure. I think it's for small kids, or for occasional short hops when everyone has to cram into the vehicle. Also, the third row is going to be pretty close to any rear-end collision so that needs to be factored in as well.

    When I was in high school and college, I used to ride along in the back of some friends' 2+2's. E.g. TransAms, older Celicas -- most of which weren't bigger than most third rows today. Sure it was uncomfortable, but we always found a way. Even later on we had an Acura Integra with a miniscule second row.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Great point. I think its probably smart to think of the new RAV as a 5+2.

    Of course, for folks like me more interested in the Sport V6 model, theres no reason to think of it as anything other than a 5 passenger... since you cant get the third row in that model.

    269 horses, 18 inch wheels, sport suspension, VSC, side curtains, and 27 HWY MPG, AWD.. if it can come in at/around 26K.... thatd be AWESOME. And I dont need crap like leather...

  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I know that 3rd row will be cramped.

    Even an MDX's third row isn't too comfy.

    A minivan is the best solution for those seeking comfortable seating for 7 passengers. (although I've heard the Freestyle is pretty comfortable also)
  • The third row seating in the 2006 Rav4 (two independent single seats) fold flat just like in the Siena's third row which has two sections (60/40 split) seating three. My question is: Does the size of the Rav4's third row single seat compare to the 40% single section of the Siena's 60/40 third row seat? 2. I'm as concerned with the height (knee to foot) of the third row, and the leg-room in front of the knees (knee to seat). After having sat in the third row "bench" of a highlander I'm wondering if the Rav4's third row will be more comfortable. Right now, I'm seriously consider the Honda Pilot, which compares well with the 2006 Rav4 in terms of specifications, ie: hp, torque, length, width, etc. and I'm suspicious "fuel economy" as well. The Honda Pilot's third row (which splits 60/40 and actually seats three tight, two comfortably) is the best I've seen so far in the "mid-size" SUV. To move up to the Sequoia ($$$) or another full-size SUV is just too expensive to purchase and/or operate. Anyone have any thoughts about the Honda Pilot vs. the 2006 Rav4?
  • Is a Navigation System an option? Probably not?
  • The Pilot is much much wider even compared to HL or 4Runner and I have spent much time driving both. That width makes a huge difference. Pilot can take 2 smaller (5'4") adults in the 3rd row or even 3 children under 12 where as HL is only suitable for 2 kids in the 3rd row. I would be shocked if Toyota was able to squeeze more space into the current RAV. If they did, who would buy the HL? BTW, 4Runner's 3rd row is overpriced and is as bad as those in the HL. If you plan on serious use of the 3rd row, do not bother with any Toyota smaller than Full-sized SUV or the minivan. In fact, the only reasonable 3rd row in a Midsize SUV is still in the MDX or Pilot.
  • I'm 6'2" and have owned a 2004 Pilot. With the 2nd row pushed forward a few inches, the 3rd row was tolerable for short trips even for me. The 3rd row will hold average sized adults (say under 5'10") decently, if they can climb back there. The Explorer offers about the same room, but is narrower and hence only holds 2 people.

    I thought it was crazy when Toyota began offering the Highlander and 4Runner with a 3rd row, but it makes sense from a marketing perspective. The idea of the RAV4 having a 3rd row now seems ridiculous, but it does give someone the option of putting a small child in the 3rd row in a pinch. I hope we can get an AWD V-6 limited without the 3rd row.

    Since the new RAV4 is so much larger, I've got to think that the next generation Highlander will probably be as large or larger than the current Pilot. I think the only reason to prefer the Highlander at this point is if you don't like the rear hatch and spare tire location in the RAV4 or want a Hybrid.

    Given the project fuel economy for the RAV4, I doubt you'd get much better real world mileage in a Hybrid Highlander. And, you'd save $10k in the process, for a similar size vehicle with an updated design.
  • cbmortoncbmorton Posts: 252
    Dealers in Canada have the specs, feature list and colour choices for the 2006 4-cyl model and are able to place orders for December delivery. Too early yet for prices, or anything on the V6. Based on the feature list it doesn't seem that we get side airbags on the 2006 4-cyl in our market. The 4-cyl trims are called Base and Upper Grade.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I don't know. I would have to physically send my 13 year old son back there to tell the difference.

    But the Pilot should offer better seating as its bigger.

    Then again, a Sienna or Odyssey would be most optimal if you're carrying many passengers often or just appreciate the extra space. (I sure do)
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Simple comparison:
    Pilot is on the Odessey frame
    Highlander ( until further notice ) is on the Camry frame
    RAV is smaller in every dimension than the Highlander

    I'd say 15 min MAX in row 3 for a couple of 10 yr olds who aren't siblings. ;)
  • mkolmkol Posts: 6
    I live in CA and was wondering if any of you know whether dealerships have show-models of the 06 RAV4, and if not when do you anticipate this happening? I am highly interested, but I need to test drive one first. I am between the AWD Rav4 4 cyl. and the Forester XT. Can't make up my mind yet... :blush:
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Another factor to look at is not only the space in the 3rd row, but the space behind it. If you're ever planning on needing a reasonably amount of luggage space behind the 3rd row, you may not find much in the Pilot, Highlander, etc. We have a Ford Freestyle. Not as wide as the Pilot, but longer, so the 3rd row seats only two, but there's plenty of leg room for adults and space behind the 3rd row for luggage. The 2nd row is huge too. But if it's only kids to sit in the 3rd row and you're not worried about the luggage space, then you have a lot of options.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Yes, but your FreeStyle is FWD torque biased and does not have VSC...!

    Ford still cutting "class" corners.
  • 01mdx01mdx Posts: 45
    For those interested in the V6, check out page 4 of the online brochure which says that the V6 is not available until early February 06. I am sure the dealerships will not have any until then. Is the V6 the only model with the 3rd row available?

    I am not sure if I can wait that long plus I am probably looking at a Pilot or Odyssey for the 3rd row. I know it doesn't really fit the character of the car but if the Murano had a 3rd row, I might be interested. I never thought that would be a big selling point but in the last year I have used the 3rd row on my MDX quite frequently.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    True, but I only have the FWD version anyway.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Its still a nice car though. Especially at year end when Ford rolled out the Employee Pricing Red Carpet.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Then I hope you have traction control at least.
  • Didn't Ford Announce they will discontinue the FreeStyle after 2007? If so buy it quick before they are gone.

    Ford has greatly improve quality and efficiency. They are now more reliable and cheaper so are better to buy than Toyota. Toyota prove to be the most unreliable cars. They have so many recalls and quality issues. Toyota recalls 246,592 vehicles Today!!! That is sad and shows poor quality. Nobody buy a Toyota and support your country. Don't help another. I am not being racist but if American Companies get bankrupt, then Americans will be in trouble.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Yes, I have the traction control. But I don't live in big snow country, so that's why I didn't get the AWD.
  • 719b719b Posts: 216
    what you're saying is a political statement and not based on fact. japanese manufacturers still make the most reliable automobiles.
    would you like to compare recalls of american car makers with japanese car makers?
    buying american is a worthy slogan as long as everything else is equal. our quality isn't equal.
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