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2006 Toyota RAV4

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  • My understanding is you cannot get leather if you get the third row.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    If you think the RAV 4 suits you.............Buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From everything I know after looking at plenty and driving 5 different ones including a V6 last Friday no one is getting a better deal than the price you quoted here. About leather with 3rd row, no idea. But you can get leather from the dealer via aftermarket install if you need it. Do you really need 3rd row? It is heavy, expensive and ...well get it only if you need it. Only you can make the final decision. You can probably get one with leather and no third row soon.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It does seem that you got a good deal. If you want leather you can get it at the same store at the same time by asking them to get one of the local installers to put leather into it. I've done it maybe a 100 times including my own Highlander and next Spring in my Prius. It's well worth it and you will like it.
  • What do you mean when you say the 3rd row is "heavy"---are you referring to actual "weight" (i.e., as in pounds?) If so, does it really make that much of a difference in the overall weight.
  • If I have a local installer put leather into it, what should I expect to pay for it at a fair price? How long does the installation process take? (days/weeks?) Also, can/should I have them install it on the third row? I am just wondering if Toyota doesn't offer leather on the third row because perhaps the leather (for some reason) makes it so the third row doesn't quite fold down flat properly with the different material? Any thoughts?
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well, I cannot find any Toyoto seat spec numbers but I see the gross vehicle weight is about 300# more with 3rd row. That is a lot to lug around if you don't need it.Also it is at the end of the car which cannot help in handling. That weight takes gas everytime you speed up and brakes every time you slow down. If you need it buy it. If not, think about it. It lists for $700 more and uses up useful storage space. My dealer told me $1300 to add leather on a two seat Sport. That $700 is half of what the dealer will charge to do leather or more than half of factory leather costs. Also I do not know if it affects how far back you can move the 2nd row seat.
  • Can you still get leather done in the aftermarket if you have GY side airbags?
    Also how difficult is it to care for?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    In our region it takes one day to order and receive the package from the manufacturer and one day plus, depending on level of business, to install it. It should be 3 days max.

    I didn't install it on our 3-row Highlander, just the first two rows. How much will you use the 3rd row? Will it be exposed all the time? Children/drinks/food?

    The price depends on whether it's two or three rows. On two rows I'd estimate $1200 +/- on 3 rows maybe $1600 +/-
  • I heard that the turning radius on the 2006 RAV 4 is an incredible 34.6 feet on the Limited and Base model, and 36.6 feet on the Sport. I can't remember where I read that. Can anyone confirm this? Also, why would the Base and Limited have 2 feet shorter radius than the Sport? Is it the wider tires?
  • I recognize the V6 has towing capabilities up to 3500 lbs--However, does anyone have an understanding on the break down of the "tongue weight" capabitlies (i.e., the weight on the actual hitch") in relation to the total weight of what you are towing.

    We own a Coleman Pop-up camper that has a total trailer weight of approximately 1500 lbs (approximately 1800 when loaded and ready to go camping). I know the V6 should pul this total weight fairly well--however, I don't know about the total tongue weight. It seems the frame on the Rav would not be as strong/sturdy as my truck that I have been pulling my trailer with.

    Also, does anyone have any input on getting a two hitch on it. Should I go with factory installed (they are charging approximately $800, or can I go with aftermarket (they will charge about $270 installed)?
  • I would rather have the factory hitch, but I refuse to pay that kind of money. I'm sure there are other options.
  • at 2200 miles my mpg started around 24, went to 26, down to 22, now back to around 24. I really expected to see better numbers. I do ALL highway driving. Usually around 80mph. Maybe the speed is killing it. I have even started to fill up at the same pump to verify my results. BTW, has anyone noticed that the shift from park or reverse to DRIVE seems to occur harshly when the engine is cold? It is so harsh that I wonder if something is wrong. Oh, one final update. Some of you may remember I was rear ended a couple weeks ago. Well the dealer still has NO CLUE as to when they will get the replacement parts in. They are all backordered. I hope all of you drive carefully and have better luck than I did, otherwise you have a nice long wait...
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    One of the key items that has come up regarding all the controversy on FE ratings on the Prius and other hybrids is all the variables that few if any of us know about.

    EPA HWY tests are done at an average speed of 48 mph on flat terrain in 75 degree weather..after 10 min of warmup.
    If you match this criteria in your driving you too will attain EPA test results. The EPA test results are the only ones by law that an auto maker can state in any press or advertisement. No matter how out dated!!!

    As you mention in your post, speed kills!! Another well known fact to auto engineers and aerodynamic engineers is the effect of drag and speed. Correct me please if I misstate this. The amount of power needed to increase speed is the square of the increase in velocity.

    While 45-50 is the sweet spot for HWY driving increasing your speed by 60% to 80 mph requires an increase in power of 150% or it almost triples your fuel usage ( cuts your FE by two thirds ).

    Essentially driving over 65 is bad for FE but driving over 75 mph on a regular basis kills all hope of any FE.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    The amount of power needed to increase speed is the square of the increase in velocity.



    The drag force varies with the square of the speed so the power required to maintain a given speed varies as the cube of the speed (i.e. proportional to force times distance per unit time).



    tidester, host
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Thus it's even worse...is that correct?

    Is there a quick reference? I used to be a physics major back in the dark ages, but I never used it. It still interests me. tho.

    Tks
  • Can you still get leather done in the aftermarket if you have GY side airbags?

    When I looked into doing that with a CR-V, I was told doing that was a no-no. Something to do with tampering with a safety system that aftermarket upholsterers didn't want to risk.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well your asking alot when you expect high MPG at 80mph. On my Audi which has a trip computer with instanteous MPH readings the MPH goes down real fast once you go over 70. 80 is like 18.mpg compared to 25 at 66. That is with a 2.5 liter V6 with turbo. So you have a 2.4 liter 4. I would say 24mpg at 80 is real good. Try 65 for one tank and see what you get. Also if you want good MPG you need a lite, smooth foot to keep speed/throttle changes small. Buy a scangauge trip computer and you will see what I mean.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Yes and Yes One of the nice features of the RAV4 is it is very nimble to drive especially around town. The steering is light and quick and the front view is good so those runs to Home Depot and McDonalds will be more fun.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    It is interesting to note that the www.fitzmall.com site has lowered prices and is showing many RAV4s both V6 and I4s at $500 over invoice.
  • I heard somewhere that the V6 requires premium fuel. Is this correct?

    Or do I have a choice as to which type of fuel to use?

    Also, if I choose to use regular and then fill up on premium, will that adversely affect my vehicle?
  • thecatthecat Posts: 528
    The v6 does not require prem. fuel. It has been suggested (not varified) that the EPA ratings for the V6 were obtained using prem. fuel and accordingly may not be obtained using reg. Is that true? Who knows.
  • So it looks like my brother in NJ got the best RAV deal to date - $700 BELOW invoice including dest + tax.
  • thecatthecat Posts: 528
    Tongue weight spec's are usually determined by the hitch mfg'r. not the vehicle. I've used a "jiffy hitch" for years with no issues. Quality hitches are designed to mount to the OEM specified locations. What I would be concerned about, not having seen a hitch on the new RAV, is if the hitch penetrates (goes through) the bumper. I wouldn't want some aftermarket outfit messing with that.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    What did he get and where?
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    There are lots of nice hitches shown on line in the $200 range. Just google "Class 3 hitch". From what I see they pick up existing frame nuts that are already in there from Toyota. None that I see attach to bumper. Many of the sites allow you to see the install instructions online. I think if you buy the V6 with the tow prep package ($140) you get the wiring connector at the rear of the car to tie into for the trailer.

    One example is here: http://search.cartserver.com/search/search.cgi?cartid=a-9041&bool=AND&category=c- - 34_receiv-01&maxhits=1&keywords=gl0692&GO=GO%21
  • Going 80 vs 65 gets you there 23% quicker. Time is money, at least in my business dealings. I'll spend the money every time to save the time.

    Now driving to the beach for some time off is a different story. Don't need to haul butt as much.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Some upholsterers will do it because they can get the same break-away fabric for airbags used in the factory.
  • Yes, I may be asking alot, but it does not seem so extreme compared to the guy, I think it was flyingn, who has a 4x4 4 cyl. and said he was getting 30 mpg at around 65mph. I don't think I can do the math but is a 15 mph increase equal to the 20% loss in fuel economy? And, yes, when I am driving 80, I am on the clock and have to be at court on time, I can't stand waking up too early. I don't even know if I could go slower the way traffic moves. I don't want to get shot ;) or cause an accident. All that aside, I am going to try to drive a little slower and see if it makes a difference. Anyone notice the transmission clunk I mentioned?
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    That is all very true. But if you do it you should not asks why you only get 24mpg at 80mph. Enjoy!
  • What if you mix the two, premium and regular?

    I mean what if I have some regular in the tank and then I want to top it off with premium. Is that bad for the engine or does it really matter?

    I think, I may want to fill up on premium for longer trips and just use regular for everyday driving. What do you think?
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