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Saab 9-3 SportCombi

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    This car is marketed towards young, active and affluent consumers who are adventurous and want the versatility of an SUV without the stigma associated with an SUV (gas sucker) or minivan (soccer mommy)

    Do you have to get a GM product? Perhaps you could try the Volvo XC90, a crossover SUV from Volvo. Or possibly you could take a look at the Saab 9-3 Sedan.

    If you want a sports car in this price range, I suggest the BMW 3-Series and the Infiniti G35. Neither look anything like a mommy-mobile. Give the Saabs (9-3 and 9-5) a try.

    The key thing is to buy what you like no matter what your friends say. You'll be the one paying for it, insuring it, driving it everyday, and using it, so ultimately you should buy what you like, regardless of what your friends say.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    jchan2, Thank you so much for your reply! I will take your advice. Yes I have to stick to GM products my husband works for GM. Even though he chooses not to be loyal to GM any more, I still am. As long as they put food on my table I will stay loyal. However I did look over those other cars you told me about. They are very nice but all similar to the combi. I love the infiniti though! I just feel the sports combi is right for me because it is sporty yet has room to haul junk. I am a retired mom at 41 and now an artist that travels to the east coast to paint a lot. The combi I feel would be a great car to drive. Probably a nice comfortable ride and lots of room for my stuff. Adventurous is me! So I think it's perfect for me! I am going to see if I can find one to test drive today. Thanks Again for all your help! Sue :shades:
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    well just because GM pays the bills doesn't mean you have to buy their products. You're free to check out other options- which is the beauty of America.

    From what you've added it seems like either SportCombis (9-3 or 9-5) would work well for you. The 9-3 SportCombi rides on a slightly more modern platform (Epsilon) versus the 9-5 SportCombi (which is based loosely on the Saab 9000 platform, which dates back to the 1990's)

    Among GM products, you could try the Saturn Vue Redline. I haven't driven one, but Saturn bills it as the "performance" model despite having the same engine as the regular Vue V6.

    Just buy what you like. Test drive the 2 Saabs, and see which one you prefer. If you prefer the 9-5, I'd do some hunting for leftover 2005 models which should be on clearance pricing right now because they restyled it slightly for 2006.

    Good luck with your car shopping. :)
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I was browsing eBay a few minutes ago, and came up with this:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Audi-A4-3-0-Avant-qu-BRAND-NEW-MANUAL-AVANT_W0QQcmdZViewIte- mQQcategoryZ6003QQitemZ4592820852QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

    An Audi A4 Avant. Its got prestige, doesn't look ANYTHING like a minivan, and is quite sporty. Audi isn't part of GM though (its part of Volkswagen) and CR has its reliability pegged at "worse than average" but otherwise it fits your criteria.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Everyone and their uncle drives Vues around here. Every other car on the road is a Vue. I did look at them but it reminded me of my jeep I drove forever 16 years ago and I didn't want that type of a car again. I want something different that not everyone has. I looked at the link you gave me for the Audi Avant now thats a hot car! I am going to test drive both Saabs when we get a Sports Combi around here. I looked in the big cities yesterday and no one has one yet. So I will just have to wait but I did talk to a guy that drives the 9.5 wagon and he loves his. I also talked to a guy that drives the 9.3 sedan and he is in love with his car!LOL I asked him about comfort and told him that I use to have a caddy and I feel they are tops in comfort and he said he has tried them but his Saab beats the caddy in comfort so that made my day! I wish they would just get them in already! I want to try one because I think I made up my mind here (Thanks to you for your help) and if it rides nice I am sold.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    And now the waiting begins, (for SportCombis to arrive) right?

    Tell us your opinion when your local dealership gets one in for a test drive
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    There are any number of initial reviews accessible on the net regarding the Sport-Combi....(incl.Edmunds) almost all very favorable and almost all commenting on the cars sportiness.As to the wagon/Soccer mom stigma...a recent independent marketing survey of 18 to 25 year olds put Saab in 2nd place in perceived "coolness"factor behind only the BMW Mini.Combine this with your access to the GM Employee discount price of more than 4% below dealer invoice plus any available incentives(Currently $500 bonus cash) you should be below $30K.on a loaded 2.0T.Nothing BMW,Audi,Volvo offers can compete in a "value for the dollar" comparo with that.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    True. I was about to suggest the Volvo V50, but since she has access to GM Employee Pricing the Saab offers the most bang for the buck.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I have gotten e-mail from local dealers saying that the Combi is available.

    If you have GM employee pricing, and otherwise like the car, and want to express loyalty, the 9-3 is a no-brainer.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Yes I am a women in waiting and waiting and waiting!LOL I have drove just about everyone I know nuts over this car.LOL It got to the point my daughter or friends would call and say "So which one is it today?" saablcp, I only know of Edmunds because my husband told me about it. He uses it a lot. I do look at the Saab web site about 14 hours a day though playing the little video clips over and over like some crazed person!LOL I also carry my little Saab book in my right hand every where I go like a kid with a xmas catalog. I make my husband look at the pretty pictures every night before he falls asleep!LOL You made my day with your survey! My mental state falls right into the 18 year old category and I think it's cool too!LOL I figured the price to be, this is before tax, title and license $35,039.00 I'm getting the Aero Nocturne Blue, Parchment Leather (I hope it's tan not light grey) 17" 5 spoke alloy wheels, Touring Package, Cold Weather Package (Can't have a cold rear), Sentronic Trans (For when I feel like a race car driver) Navigation Sytem, (For when I feel lost) and XM Satellite Radio so I can drive across country and never turn the station! Yes dhanley it should be a "No brainer" but when it comes to me nothing is ever that easy!LOL Once I drive one I will let you all be the first to know since you have been so helpful. No one and I mean no one would help me pick out my car because they say they didn't want to be held responsible when I didn't like it a month after I bought it.LOL But I really have done my home work on this sporty mobile and I am ready! If you see a blue blur going down the highway it's me just seeing if it will really go 160!LOL Thanks Everyone! Sue
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    If your local dealership can get one before Christmas, wouldn't it make a great Christmas present?
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Oh it sure would a long with the other hundreds of things on my list.LOL My husband and kids can just stuff it full right?LOL
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I wonder if you can combine the GM Employee Discount with the European Delivery Discount. If you can, that would be one SWEET deal.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Remember, a car is only a good present if it has a massive bow on top.

    I'm sure you can combine employee discount and euro delivery.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Think about it- 8% off MSRP, then the GM Employee price. Plus a nice vacation.

    Of course, then it won't make it in time for Christmas.

    Does the Saab dealer sell those big bows? (just checking)
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    What what what European Delivery Discount??????? It better come with the big bow or I'll send it back!LOL I saw on TV the other day big red bows on some cars but don't remember what they were!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Lexus had the "big red bow " ads.

    Euro delivery is fixed price. MSRP-9% on the base car. Somewhat less on the accessories, but still a good discount. Then they give you $2000 cash for "travelling money."

    You can also drive the car in europe, so you save on car rental there.

    It's a good deal overall, but a fantastic deal if you want a europen vacation. In that case it's 9% off, $2000 in your pocket, and you save a car rental while there.

    dave
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    It takes months though, so forget it. You order your car, go to Sweden to pick it up, drive through Europe, and then drop it off at a port. They ship it back (4-6 weeks right there I believe) and your local Saab dealer gets it back, and you take delivery again.

    If you want it by Christmas, just take the Employee Discount :) (and get one of those big red bows)
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Thanks for clearing that up for me! Sound fun but I would get lost. Oh wait I have my map thingie right? Sounds like a lot of work though. I will will stay here and hold out for the bow ya think?
  • My wife and I bought a 2.0 SportCombi w/manual transmission about a week ago. The car is for my wife but I really like it. It drives like a tight sports sedan - not at all like my Mom's old wagons.

    Went through Edmunds to find a dealer with the car we wanted at a good price. Unfortunately, that car was sold before we got there. The dealer was able to find a similar car but wanted to charge more. We used the GM supplier discount to get the price back down.

    Trying to break the engine in gently (and resist the urge to constantly enjoy the turbo boost). If this car is reliable it will be perfect.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    The answer to that is question is NO.The Saab I.D.S. program can not be combined with ANY other incentives.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Your car sounds really cool! I didn't know they had 2.0 sportscombi. Is that the all wheel drive one? What color did you get?
  • Yep - the 2.0 is at least $5K cheaper than the Aero right now and still has the same 210hp engine as last year's Aero. Ton of power with the manual trans. I do wish we could have had the sport seats like the Aero.

    I asked the dealer if he had any Aero's on the way. He said they had one sedan in and a few more coming. Sounds like it may be hard to find an Aero wagon for a few months.

    We got fusion blue with parchment (beige)interior. The car really looks great - lots of compliments and yet to see another one on the road.

    It's still front wheel drive. We looked at some other all wheel drive cars but with the Saab traction and stability controls, didn't think it would make a big difference in the New Jersey winter.

    Overall it is a great deal for the $28k we paid (moonroof and cold weather options).
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Did any of you drive both hard? Have comments on the handling difference?
  • We both test drove a 2.0T Sedan pretty hard(no Sport Combi w/manual to test at dealership). To the best I can remember, the wagon we bought feels exactly the same - there is a week gap in there. It really does not feel like a wagon! No looseness in the body or handling quirks at all.

    I did not bother driving an Aero as it was more than we wanted to spend.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Darn. Otherwise it could be one heck of a deal
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Sounds really nice! I am so glad to hear the parchment is beige! I have had silver leather for ever and sick of it. On the color samples the Fusion and the Nacturn look the same so I can't tell what the color is really going to look like until I see one which is driving me nuts! To a women color is everything. Got to have those options moonroof cold weather package it's a must in my book. Wi weather can be nasty. I drive a big chevy convertion van now with a big v8 that can blow the doors off about anything thing. Her name is Big Burtha and she has a tude. She is loaded tv 2 stereo systems cd players vcr all leather. She did her job when we had 4 kids and all their friends at home. We also pulled a 31 foot RV. Kids gone RV gone. Mom on her own because husband works all the time just don't need old Burtha any more. Plus it costs an arm and a leg to fill her up. We paid Upper 30's for her 5 years ago she was 40. Burtha needs to live with a family that needs her. I need fast fun and hot sporty! Your new car sounds so nice I can't wait to get mine! My husband is making me wait until after the 1st of the year to see what deals come up. :mad: I am NOT a waiter! I don't do it well at all! I want what I want and now! Gees I sound like my kids now!LOL
  • Fusion is a lighter and brighter shade of blue. The Nocturne is darker with a little grey in it.

    Go to www.saabusa.com - select the SportCombi and click on "build your own" to see colors.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    I do that all day long LOL but is it true to the colos in real life? Like when you see them on the street?
  • I guess that depends how good your computer monitor is. It's hard to judge metallic paint until you see it on the car. Even then, the cars look totally different in the sun versus the shade.
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