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  • This is another example of why I post here: to correct incorrect and misleading information like this.

    "As Backy stated earlier the advantages, Honda Fit base starts at 14,400 (with destination & handling charge), while range-topper Fit Sports starts at 16,520 (w D&H). The Golf doesn't compete with Accent directly but it starts around 15K as well, while Accent starts under 11K."

    The 2006 Accent GLS Manual (without such luxury items such as A/C and power anything, or even cheap floor mats) MAY start at $12,995 (with destination). Yes there may be cyclical rebates that bring down the price, but not to "under $11K."
    Add in the necessary A/C/Power package and your at $14,495 for the MANUAL (you still don't get floor mats at that price!)

    In ALL Southern and Western states (where I live), there are NO cars SOLD without A/C, so the Accent MANUAL really "starts" at around $14K.

    The 2007 Fit MANUAL starts at $14,400, but comes with all your basic necessities. So, where exactly is this large price differential? At the VERY MOST, it's $1K (using rebates on the FIT, though not available yet on the 2007). Own that car 5 years and half the price difference evaporates on GAS MILEAGE ALONE. I won't even go into resale value. Where is the cost savings for owning the Accent?
  • "The Golf doesn't compete with Accent directly but it starts around 15K as well, while Accent starts under 11K."

    So the Rabbit doesn't compete with the 2007 Hatchback Accent? It seems nobody on the board wants the Rabbit to compete with any Hyundai car.

    A full loaded Rabbit 2-door with EVERYTHING but ESC ($450)(not offered on the Accent) or Alloys ($450) is $15,750. The 2007 Accent SE MANUAL is $14,495 (no rebates offered). Again, a 1K price difference. We may argue over reliability, but one certainly can't argue over the fact that these cars MOST DEFINITELY compete with one another.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    What misleading information? Accent GS starts under 11K. I didn't make up the numbers, by the way.

    I get it, you are some "nice guy" trying to get everyone avoid a brand at all costs, just because you claimed you've had bad experience. Well, consumers will decide for themselves whether product A, for example, is the best option for themselves. If not, they will have other options to choose from.

    I am curious to see your Elantra and all of the problems you have described (pictures would be the perferred option).
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Because the Golf isn't a subcompact by classificiation. Will there be some cross-shop? Sure. But going by price isn't always the best comparison - I mean would you compare a truck and a sedan, even though they are at the same price point?

    If you do want to compare, Alloy comes standard on the SE (16" Alloy Wheels), Accent SE has six airbags standard, plus more standard features here - http://www.hyundainews.com/presskit2007/3-Door06Accent_Features.html. Of course sport-tuned, stiffer suspension, and personalized accessories.
  • jrtny04jrtny04 Posts: 17
    just under 16k for an accent se with a moonroof is absurd. does anyone think that hyundai will offer considerable rebates and incentives.
  • "Because the Golf isn't a subcompact by classificiation. Will there be some cross-shop? Sure. But going by price isn't always the best comparison - I mean would you compare a truck and a sedan, even though they are at the same price point?"

    hmm..you think b/c the Rabbit has a few feet more cubic feet of space, people won't look at it? That's ridiculous. Do you think most people even know what classification their car is? LOL. Now you're just stretching for argument. It will be compared, period.

    The Accent has more standard features than the Rabbit? HAH.
    I guess cruise control (how can you make a car without it?) or a decent stereo isn't one of them.

    The Rabbit has: air conditioning, cruise control, remote central locking, anti-lock brakes, electronic brake force distribution, traction control, active steering, a 10-speaker in-dash CD/audio system, side impact and side curtain airbags, tilt/telescoping steering column, power windows with auto up/down on all windows, semi-automatic climate control, and many many more.

    http://www.vw.com/rabbit/rabbitcompare.html?ic_id=promo_rabbit2006
  • "Of course sport-tuned, stiffer suspension"

    I hope its more "sporty" than the Elantra GT. That car actually drove less "sporty" than the GLS when I test drove it.
  • I would agree. Judging by the fact that the 2006 Accent WITH $1K in rebates isn't selling (sales down 26%), I'd imagine Hyundai will have to offer even greater incentives to move the 2007 Accent. But will people even care remains to be seen.

    Like i've said before, the ONLY way the Accent will sell is for Hyundai to price it at $12K for an AUTO trans fully equipped. Anything more, and people are shopping Yaris, Fit, Versa, Rabbit, etc.
  • cybergypsycybergypsy Posts: 51
    My Vw's were nothing but problems, thats why i dumped them...love the style....but not the cost!
  • Yes, gotta love the vague, anecdotal posts. Let me guess, it was the "windows that fell through into the door" problem you read somewhere and try to post as your own.

    Has VW had its problems, yeah it sure has. But then so has Hyundai which still places below average in JD Power's long term dependabiity survey (but then they're biased against Hyundai, right? But not in their IQS, then they're accurate! LOL). At least with VW, you get an engaging driving experience as you drive it to be serviced :)
  • acronisacronis Posts: 29
    I think that many points and arguments about why the Accent is inferior to the VW Rabbit makes a good debate but there is no doubt that the lame sales numbers is a signal to Hyundai that they need to change the packaging and pricing of this vehicle.

    Another that could help is to give it a restyling from the front hood and grill;adding a more sleeker look. The sales numbers compared to year over year are not encouraging.
  • inharmswayinharmsway Posts: 153
    I had a Karman Ghia once. What a piece of crap. Could not wait to get rid of it. Of all (many) the cars I have had it was the low point. I now have a 2004 Elantra GT. Love it.
  • inharmswayinharmsway Posts: 153
    Listen germancarfan1 you are now accusing me of lying. I had a Karmann Ghia in the 70ties. If the quality of a vw was that bad in a car produced since 1949, the germans did not improve the car much did they. By the way a Karmann (sorry 2 ns) Ghia is a beetle with diff. body.
  • craig10xcraig10x Posts: 8
    As i said, using Cars Direct, and adding on the package with the air conditioner, and also the automatic transmission (but not the fancier wheel covers or option package with the power windows, keyless entry, etc.) The total Cars Direct Price is: $12,990...including the delivery charge of $585!.

    It's my understanding that Cars Direct get a commission if you go through them (that has to be at least a few hundred $ i am sure) So, using a print out from Cars Direct (and buying direct from the dealer) i figure he should be able to get it out the door (with sales tax) for no more then $13,000 tops (plus probably about $500 for the trade in, which would knock it down to $12,500)....

    Even at that, that's for a very fully loaded vehicle with: A/C, Automatic, 6 Air Bags, ABS Braking System, 4 Wheel Disc Brakes, 6 Speaker AM/FM/CD/MP3 radio/player....ALL INCLUDED! This is why i shake my head as to why people haven't been realizing what an excellent value this is for the money!

    I did a little research, and it appears that the 2007 4 door models will have the A/C standard but not the ABS brakes (they will now be optional)...Also, delivery charge will be extra (not included in the MSRP price)....It's basically a "smoke and mirrors" ploy to make the car seem to be $1,000 cheaper (plus they will give the ususal $1,000 rebates) this way, bargain hunters will get the impression that the car is $2,000 less (instead of $1,000)...

    For my dad, the way it works out is, if he can't find a 2006, and has to wait for the 2007, he will actually end up paying the same approx $13,000 out the door, and will get the same equipment (less the ABS system...if he wants that, he would have to pay extra)....

    So, the irony is, he would be better off getting the 2006 (if he can find one)....But the "bargain hunters" will think they are getting an even better buy on the 2007 GLS 4 Door....

    Either way...i still say: this car is a great value for the money.....compare it to the "out the door" prices on Yaris, Fit, etc... ;)
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,711
    high cost and low quality. Hyundai is winning awards now for quality. My Kia's have both been great vehicles.

    The new Accent's are not world beaters but IMO they would get the transportation job done for a low price. My local dealer is offering a Polar White 2006 Hyundai Accent 4-door sedan with all the options(airbags in every corner and coming from every direction upon impact), A/C, stereo, etc., for $12,699. That includes the Hyundai $1,000 rebate and the local dealer's discount of some $181 dollars.

    $12,699 for that car is a great deal. If you take good care of that Accent you'll get 200,000 miles out of the powertrain and you'll be driving a car with nice design lines and decent mechanicals.

    C&D rated it 5th out of 7 cars in their comparo. They didn't like the feel of the shifter-like it was attached to rubber bands, and they didn't like the undisciplined struts and shocks. But they did like how quiet the Accent was at idle and how quiet the car was inside the cabin at 70mph, more than any other of the comparo cars. They said it had a cushy ride and had good sight lines, too.

    The confidence in Hyundai and Kia is there for me. More and more people are agreeing and buying the South Korean product every year. Recently, Kia's leader was freed of charges in the Hyundai corruption case and Kia will now be ready to build their new plant in Georgia and proceed with their growth as scheduled. Hyundai's leader is going to have to face some charges still, so that can not be construed as a positive for them(they have to do with bribery of government officials, part of the business culture and business process there. Read into that what you will). But their cars, vans and SUV's are improved to compete as world-class now. Some simple research will bear that statement out as being fact.

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  • You seem confused.

    Cars direct pricing:

    2006 Accent GLS AUTO
    Option Group 3 (A/C power package)
    Cars Direct price: $13,648 (have you ever used Cars Direct my friend? You almost NEVER get the priced quoted)

    Not sure where you live but count on another $800-1000 for sales tax and annother $150-200 for title and reg.

    Using Edmunds TMV (much more accurate than cars direct), expect to pay $14,700 - $14,900 out the door.
  • craig10xcraig10x Posts: 8
    No, i think you are...the poster right before your message, with his dealer quote for the 2006....pretty much matches what i said. And he is not getting option 3...just option 2...that's why the total is $12,990. Option 2 includes the Air Conditioner....3 has things he doesn't want, like power windows and keyless entry...who needs it....$1,000 for sales tax? I don't think so...it's 4% in Fla...title and reg is always extra, for EVERY CAR...

    Boy, you really hate Hyundai's don't you??? :mad:
  • craig10xcraig10x Posts: 8
    Of the entry-level economy cars on the market today, the 2006 Hyundai Accent is one of the most likable and offers excellent value.

    The above is a quote from Edmund's own review of this car...you should read it sometime (and also the Consumers Reviews section....seems like they all love it)...

    And i just did a check on Edmund's (for an est. price) theirs came out a bit higher then Cars Direct (about $13,100) but i still think you can do better...and i think the quote the previous poster gave that he actually got from a dealer, bears that out)....

    I'll check in if/when my dad is able to purchase it, and let you guys know how it went. :)
  • inharmswayinharmsway Posts: 153
    The Ghia had the same running gear as the beetle just a diff. body. Research my "friend". This was a long time ago, but it is the only personally dealings I had with VW. And this is all I am going to say about this in this Accent forum.
  • Sales tax in Florida is 6% (http://www.state.fl.us/dor/taxes/vehicle_sut.html) I know I live here. So, roughly $800 additional. So, out the door price of around $14K (including tags and tax) for a car without Power windows, locks, or any alarm. Enjoy ;) Either way, not under $13K like you said.

    That being said, good luck finding one in Florida without the Power package. I've looked at 4 dealers (just for research, don't plan on buying the heap) in my area and the cheapest Accent they had was 14,700 MSRP (GLS with Option 3 package). Actualy, almost all on the lot were $16K GLS's with AUTO trans.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Has VW had its problems, yeah it sure has. But then so has Hyundai which still places below average in JD Power's long term dependabiity survey (but then they're biased against Hyundai, right? But not in their IQS, then they're accurate! LOL). At least with VW, you get an engaging driving experience as you drive it to be serviced

    Stop posting incorrect information once and for all:

    2005 JD Power VDS:
    Hyundai: 260
    VW: 335 (third from bottom)

    2006 JD Power IQS:
    Hyundai: 102 (third best behind Porsche and Lexus)
    VW: 171 (tied for third lowest)

    2005 JD Power IQS:

    Hyundai 110 (11th place)
    VW: 147 (fourth from the bottom)

    I don't have 2004 JD Power in front of me, but I recall Hyundai finished ahead of VW as well, although not by much. The correlation - Hyundai is improving constantly; while VW contiunes to struggle and is plauged by problems here in the US.

    Just for kicks:

    JD Power Customer Rentention (measures repeat buyers)

    2005:

    Hyundai - 56.3% (5th)
    VW - 29.3% (6th from bottom)

    2004:

    Hyundai - 57.6% (4th)
    VW - 33.7% (9th from bottom)

    2003:

    Hyundai - 52.3%
    VW - 37.1%
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    After reading all the responses to your original post, I'm not sure if your question about the pricing of the 2007 Accent being lower was answered. Actually, for comparably-equipped cars, the GLS sedan is not priced lower. However, Hyundai has changed the packaging of the GLS for 2007, so it is possible to pay less money depending on the options you want.

    For 2006, ABS was standard on the GLS. For 2007, it is part of an option package (along with power accessories and some other things). Also, there is a package now with power accessories that does NOT include the alloy wheels. For 2006, if you wanted power windows/locks/mirrors etc. you had to get the alloys too. So basically there is more flexibility now in getting options on the Accent. If for example you want a car with ABS, A/C, and power package but don't need alloys or automatic, you can get one thst lists for just under $14k. If your dad can wait awhile for rebates to appear on the 2007 Accents, and I don't think that will take long due to the strong competition in this class that germancarfan1 and others have mentioned, he should be able to get a GLS nicely equipped for $12 or less. If he can make do with a GS hatchback, it would be less still.

    There are some real deals to be had on the Accent. I am down in central Texas now and there's a new dealer in Kyle (says they are the largest Hyundai dealer in the world, not sure how they measured that...) advertising '06 Accent automatics for $9990. I wouldn't be surprised if these didn't have A/C at that price; the ad wasn't clear. If I have time this week I'll stop over there with my BIL (his wife is looking for an inexpensive new car) and check it out.
  • craig10xcraig10x Posts: 8
    Thanks backy, that was helpful...Any idea of when we might expect to see the 2007 4 doors to be arriving (I know the 2007 2 doors are already starting to come in)....

    Well, i guess if he can't find what he wants on the 2006 that are left in the South Fla dealerships, he might have to wait for the 2007s to come in...The closest one to him in Deerfield Beach says they will have none until 2007s arrive...The one in Boyton Beach has 2 (according to their online website inventory list) Coconut Creek (the new one) he will call this week to see what they have, and the one near Ft Lauderdale has the most...about 14, though he really wanted to buy from a dealer closer to home...

    And yes, i misquoted the sale tax amount, germancarfan...it is 6% in fla....

    I have a feeling he will have to end up waiting a while...i was so hoping he would get it now, so i can fly down quick to visit him and start driving it! (lol) ;)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Since Hyundai and third-party sources have already published the pricing for the 2007 GLS, they should be arriving soon. Don't know exactly when, though.

    You can use the New Car configurator here at Edmunds.com to get an idea of the list price of a 2007 Accent equipped the way your dad wants it, and the invoice price. Even though it's a 2007, I would try to negotiate down to invoice at least (before rebates) if I were you. The 2007 GLSes are unchanged from the 2006s (except for packaging) and competition is severe. Good luck!
  • inharmswayinharmsway Posts: 153
    Backy I wonder if there is any rumor about the accent hatchback coming out in a 5-door.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    I hope so! The pre-2006 Accent was available in some places such as Canada as a 5-door.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    I'd be very surprised if a 5-door Accent shows up in the US. Hatchbacks are still a niche market, and the Kia Rio5 already fills the 5-door slot (and is the same car under the skin).
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,897
    Since the Germans are hosting my favorite event at the moment (soccer WC), I've been trying to be more tolerant of posts regarding their products. However, we're now at the point where it makes sense to focus exclusively on the Accent, and take the VW talk to one of the many existing discussions about their products. Schönen Dank!

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,711
    shouldn't that read Dank Schonen? And how did you get those two dots to appear over the "o"? These tricky hosts! ;)

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