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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2006 and newer

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  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    The six-speed transmission in the Explorer/Mountaineer is world-class in shift quality and ability to provide the right gear at the right time.

    Also my 2006 Mountaineer 4.6L 292 HP delivers 21 MPG at constant 70 MPH. And after 9,400 miles, about 1,000 of which was on very rough Arizona back roads, not a single squeak or rattle. Incredibly quiet cabin.

    This vehicle is exceeding my expectations, which were high.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    We're about to replace our 04 explorer for an 06 Explorer/mountaineer. How is the fuel economy of the v8 vs the v6? I see the power difference but not MPG. The main reason for our trade is because we need the 50/50 3rd row, 7 speakers (instead of 4), and probably a dvd player.

    Would you recommend a mountaineer luxury or explorer xlt?

    -Cj :)
  • I would recommend the Eddie Bauer Explorer with the optional 3rd row and add the package with the entertainment goodies (6 cd audiophile cd changer and rear dvd system.) I also recommend the rear sensor system. For the engine choice it is up to where you drive. I have the V6 because I live in the city and do not need the V8 power. The mpg is very similiar. V6= 15 city 21 hwy and V8= 14 city 20 hwy.
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    Thoroughly evaluate the interior and exterior appearance ... which one do you like better?

    Compare prices equipped the way you want them. One may be a better deal.

    Dealer reputation is also a significant factor.
  • I agree with autoboy...personal preference is key..

    Honestly I cannot stand the way the Mountaineer looks and I feel the Explorer is beautiful. It is a joy sitting behind the wheel everytime I get.

    Also Ford has some pretty awesome deals right now with cash back I think still at 3500 and 1000 for gas.

    My Eddie Bauer Explorer came fully loaded with sirius radio and rear sensor at a price of 28,900 without tax. With tax the total price was around 30,000 which I felt was great deal for a brand new eddie bauer explorer!

    I will also mentiont the MSRP on this vehicle was around 34,000 and invoice was at 31,500 without incentives factored in!
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    My point is that that the dealership has an 06 Explorer Xlt with MSRP of $32,157 and it includes reverse parking sensors, audiophile (7 speakers), 3rd row, heated leather seats, safety canopy, and the rear climate control.

    Closer to me is a Lincoln mercury dealership that has an 06 Mountaineer Luxury that has the same options plus a towing package, and power running boards for $32,375. Only thing is that the seats aren't heated. Also the v6 is a flex fuel v6 which is useless here as no E85 gas station is within 153 miles.

    The ford has the $2k back and a customer finance thing so the list price is $29k even and the $0 for gas. The mountaineer has the same thing but also 0% financing.

    ps for a family of 5+1 infant, is this a good family truck for short trips with the v6 or should we step up to the v8?

    -Cj :)
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    The V6 gets the 5-speed transmission; the V8 gets the 6-speed. Worth considering.
  • orpho05orpho05 Posts: 1
    Hello all. I wanted some help because I know you guys are experts on Explorers. Right now I'm looking at a '06 Eddie with no third row or moon roof. Just leather, 4.0 v6 4x4. They want $3,500 down at 279 a month for 2 years and 24,000 miles after 4,500 off of 33,500. How low do you think I can get them to go? I also have a college student coupon for $500 off any Ford. Some help pleaseeee . thanks
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I drive Explorers (Mountaineers), my brother drives Trailblazers. Head to head, he has tons more little problems with his Trailblazers than I have with my Mountaineers.
  • I am considering an 06 Explorer. I need to tow a Coleman Camper tent trailer on occasion. I figure the camper is maybe 3000-3500# max fully loaded but don't know for sure. Right now have Expedition with big v8, good power, lousy mpg and with my wife running around in that vehicle, doesn't make a lot of sense. We live in Colorado and would tow in the mountains. For those that tow, is the v6 with Class III/IV hitch and the 3.73 axl ratio enough or do I need the v8? I sure wish I could test drive one with my camper hooked to the back. Are the mpg numbers ford publishes accurate of what you see, v6 15/20, v8 14/20? Thanks.
  • ajmtbmajmtbm Posts: 245
    the epa fuel economy rating is practically the same v8 vs v6. the v8 is less than $1000 more than the v6. probably better off getting the v8
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    I have said this for years, stick to the V8. The V6 is reliable BUT, the vehicle has to struggle a bit more to create power...in turn, will use probably same amount of fuel as the V8 will. The V6 will only post decent fuel economy if you keep it under 2000rpms. And can sound course at upper REV's...

    Aside from that, the tranny does a good job of selecting the best gear, so it feels a bit sprightly for the most part...And you really dont need to take it over 3000rpms for normal everyday driving.

    BUT all in all, the V8 is a more relaxed cruiser and will probably give you the same fuel economy, yet better in the highway runs since it has an extra lower revving gear over the V6's 5 Speed.

    If your worried about fuel economy, and think 1MPG is a major difference, then probably a Freestyle might be a better option, or the new Edge depending on your needs.

    Whenever I think of truck or SUV's fuel estimates, whatever they put on a window, I deduct 15-20% off their estimates. Very fuel cars actually perform as what the sticker says..Freestyle/500 being one of them, Fusion is another.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I've owned both. The V-8 only costs me 1mpg less than the 6, and is a more pleasurable truck to drive. For towing, it's much better, although, (ANT, if you're listening), it'd be nice if the mighty 4.6L could muster up a little more bhp than 239 in that truck. I know the engine is capable of much much more than that, but probably for mileage, is constrained. In the Explorer, it could use at least 270 or so.... Just my opinion.

    Damn fine engine though.....
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Well it's at 292HP for the V8 this year. And when the mid-cycle refresh occurs, the 4.0L gets replaced by the 3.5L.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    And when the mid-cycle refresh occurs, the 4.0L gets replaced by the 3.5L.

    The Duratec35 in the Explorer? That's interesting! Not that you know already or can give the info up, but I'm assuming it won't produce 265 HP and rather be tuned for more low end torque?

    On a side note Ford's official press release for the Shelby GT originally stated that the '07 V6 has 240 HP, which we all know is false, but it has since been corrected to read the actual 210 HP from the good old 4.0L. Was that a bad typo or some foreshadowing of the 35 going in there soon too? ;)

    The original text still resides on some Mustang forums and is still being debated. :D
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Yes ironically a dealer manager read that months ago, and quoted in casual conversation...Asked him to recheck his figures, then he noticed the issue. Just a lil' accident though.

    The 3.5L can be tuned for low end torque, but the torque could match the outgoing 4.0L's if not improve on it a bit. Also, the 3.5L can grow if need be. The Duratec35 isn't really an enlarged Duratec30, rather, it's a totally new engine architecture which in it's 3.5L form, is the smallest, it'll ever be...only one way to grow, is upwards.

    The Mustang will also benefit from the new D35 as well..the 4.0L needs to be phased out for numerous reasons such as efficiency (or lack thereof), logistics, etc.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    The 3.5L can be tuned for low end torque, but the torque could match the outgoing 4.0L's if not improve on it a bit.

    The D35's torque number already matches or beats the 4.0's but it comes in at a higher RPM. I'm curious to see how far the HP number drops, from it's current 265, to make the the same or more torque come in at a lower RPM. If it's more than the current 4.0's 210 then they're on to something really good IMO. ;)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    NOW we're talking! That'll give me a reason to get another Mountaineer for the wife!
  • bekibeki Posts: 1
    I have someone other than the dealer change the oil in my car. I had the oil changed at 3,000 miles. Everytime I turn my car on I get a warning indicator stating I need to have the oil changed. I press reset and it only temporarily resets the computer (meaning every time I restart the car I have to press reset). I need to know how to reset the oil change indicator in the computer.
  • ajmtbmajmtbm Posts: 245
    Press the setup button until you see something like "oil Lide xx% reset for new"
    then press rest.

    restting when you clear the message only clears the message temporarily, it doesnt rest the oil life.
  • Hello I was thinking about getting the 2007 explorer. But I was wondering is it to big for a single person? I may be going to a FBI job in atlanta and is the explorer to big for that type of city driving if i'm usually going to be by myself? I usually drive alone except when family comes over so is the explorer to big? Should I focus on the rav4, escape or smaller vehicles? Thanks and God Bless
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    Check out the freestyle.

    Or the Edge.
  • Those are nice but they seem somewhat funny looking, I would not mind a mid-size SUV. But I'll probably look into some more stuff, just the Ford is very reliable I'll keep looking thanks and God Bless.
  • zeeman84zeeman84 Posts: 16
    I purchased an Explorer about six months ago after looking at a lot of different options. I do have a family and the Explorer is great at hauling them around. But other then that I looked at all of the safety features built into this vehicle. It is very quiet at and it makes driving a pleasure which I think is important. I traded a smaller vehicle which got better mileage, but it was not a as adaptable to different hauling situations and it was not as much as a pleaure to drive. These all have to be factored into your decision on what vehicle you want. Yes, it is more expensive to operate. But I just budget and cut back on other expenses because this is the vehicle I wanted.

    Hope this helps :shades:
  • Yeah, the RAV4 is small though, you need to sit in one to decide if you can fit into it. The Toyotas amd Hondas are usually very reliable.
  • I was checking out the real life MPG string, and I am nowhere close to what everyone else seems to be getting. I have about 6000 miles now on my 06, XLT, 4wd, V-8, and I have been getting 9.5 mpg in San Diego, and about 12-13 mpg freeway. This thing is killing me! I have tires at full pressure. Even when my wife drives (not aggressive at all, trust me) she gets less than 13 mpg. How is this thing getting 50% worse mileage than a full size F-150 with the V8?!!!
    Even if I have the cruise set at 75, and I reset the MPG computer, its getting 15 or, thats crap. No acceleration, maintaing 75 and I am getting 15mpg!!! Either other people are lying, or my explorer has something wrong with it. ANy ideas?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Well yeah, what you're telling me is that you
    ARE getting what we're getting. You'll get 15-16 on the freeway, and 13 in town. That's what we get. You, however, have your foot in the intake manifold, if you get 9.5 in town. It'll get a tad better as it breaks in, but this is what all truck based SUVs get, regardless of size, really. If you want more mileage, you have to go to a Minivan based SUV, like the Pilot. They do a little better, because they're lighter. But they are no way as tough, if you tow, or haul, or are tough on a truck, like on bad roads a lot.
  • My 2006 Mountaineer 4.6 AWD got 9.3 MPG on a 2,000 mile trip pulling a 5,000# trailer.

    21 MPG at steady 70 MPH on X-way.

    It's either driving habits or something is wrong. A good check for the effect of driving habits is to count the number of brake applications. Every time you apply the brakes, you're converting fuel to heat.
  • Ok, I probably drive a bit aggressive, almost a prerequisite to drive in San Diego, but that doesn't explain the 4-5 MPG less freeway that I get compared to others. Hopefully it will get better as it breaks in more. Can gas make a difference? One of my co-workers said he had a similar problem and switched gas brands from a no-name "cheap" gas station to a name brand (Shell) station. He claims a 20% increase, I will experiment, but I am not holding my breath...
    As far as the pilot goes, not an option, I pull a boat, and those things couldn't even pull my boat trailer without the boat. I am definitely a Truck-based SUV guy, (plus my father-in-law works at the plant in KC)
    I will post the results of my fuel experiment, as well as the brake idea, although, I reset the MPG computer and even while braking, it doesn't drop, but we shall see.
  • The MPG won't drop while braking. It drops when you get back on the throttle to recover the energy that was just converted to heat.
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