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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2006 and newer

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  • nvbanker, NO to the wrench icon. Resolve it, I just push down on the accelerator, it gets up to speed. Then if drive a short while without stops, voila, perfect. Can be a day, week or more between problems. I have shown it to the dealer a few times, one time the mechanic, was in the truck, when it dragged. Unable to replicate & the darn computor hookup, can't find any code problems.
    If you remember, I had a 2004, 5 solenoids, back axle whine, A/C problems. This was the replacement, was good for a while. Now not sure, 1 yr old.
    Reg.
  • baggs32, NO, to clunk. Very naughty, we never use (Hardly ever) the E brake. I grew up with stick shift & parking brakes, though FL, no one seems to. I have put the truck in neutral & with no effort pushed it.
    I am hoping to resolve the problem, we were intending to buy this one off Red Carpet Lease. Can't risk tranny problems.
    Reg.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    No clunk, there's a wierd feeling like the truck just went over a speed bump, but I don't have any of those in my garage or driveway - and then, I get the wrench, and no move. Actually, it feels like it's in overdrive from a dead stop. It barely creeps, if you floor it. The wrench stays on and it remains in this condition until you restart the engine. That fixes it every time.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    This is a problem with the "fly by wire" throttle.

    This is all the owners manual says though:
    Powertrain malfunction indicator: Illuminates when a powertrain or a
    4x4 fault has been detected. Contact your authorized dealer as soon as
    possible.

    Mark.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Interesting. Well, the dealer has had it for a week now, and can't replicate the wrench (that I get every day). This is typical, isn't it? The transmission guy has been taking it home, trying to get it to wrench on me. It won't. So, they are reprogramming the transmission for me, hoping that will fix it. We shall see. Love the truck, but if this problem isn't fixable, I won't keep it too long.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Don't be afraid to go to a different dealer.

    Mark.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I have done business with this dealer forever, since 1990 anyway, they all know me by name. If they don't get it the first time, I just patiently go back and make them try again. It appears they got it fixed. They replaced a recalled part, and did two programming changes to it, and it shifts much better. So far, no more wrench. The wife is happy now, and drove it to work for the first time today. (Could be that I put her Mountaineer in the shop now, so she had no choice.... :blush: ) But she liked it.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    The trans on the Explorer/Mtn requires fluid changes at 30,000 mile intervals.

    Mark.
  • I recently bought a 2006 explorer with 21,000 miles on it. When it is in park or I am stopped in gear, the motor shimmies (fairly noticeably) every 5-7 seconds. The service dept. told me that was normal--it was the computer resetting itself continuously. Is this true? Has anyone else experienced this?
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Also, the Explorer has a direct drive cooling fan so you won't hear that cycle on and off either.

    Mark.
  • dcabledcable Posts: 5
    2006 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer V8 We purchased our car in February 2006 and have had constant problems with the shifting in this car. When coming to a stop the car will jump and feel as if you were rear ended. When it is really cold outside the shifting is really sluggish and clunky. So far we have had the valve body torn apart to find that a valve was sticking (that explains why we were only getting 9.8 mpg) Also, we have had it re-programmed several times and now the cellinoid was just replaced. If any one is having these types of problems please e mail me at DCable01@comcast.net I'm upset that we spent 39K on a vehicle and have had so many problems with the transmission

    Thanks
    Denise Cable
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    "... the Explorer has a direct drive cooling fan so you won't hear that cycle on and off either..."

    Don't know about the Explorer, but my '06 Mountaineer 4.6 fan has a viscous clutch drive. I can definitely tell when it engages.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Which engine? My 4.6L doensn't do that.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I have had similar issues with my 06, however, the dealer has it running almost perfect now. Yours however, sounds like a disaster, and it happens, even to Honda and Toyota. Honda had bad transmissions in 04 and Toyota has them right now in their 07 Camrys, and they don't have a clue how to fix it yet.

    My advice is to stay kind, but persistent with your service manager - I know it's a pain, but keep taking it back and insist that they fix it. Eventually, they'll get it right, or they'll replace the car. Yes, replace the car. Ford is better than most about doing that with lemons, if you're decent about it and let them try to fix it first.

    Stay persistent, and get friendly with your Service Manager.....first name basis friendly - he'll be your advocate if you do. Remember, they're people too, and they didn't build the damn thing, they're just trying to fix it.
  • It is a 4.0L 6 cylinder SOHC. Thanks for the reply.
  • Heres a little of what I have went through and has been repaired on my 06 limited with everything. Started having problems about two months after a bought it. It had a hesitation off of stops and accelerating after slowing down. Took it and dealer had to update computer PCM and TCM. Then a month or so later the same thing hesitation. Took it in another update for PCM and TCM. Updates seem to last only a couple of weeks. By the third visit hotline was called Manufacturer said they were aware of problem and were working on a fix. Took it in two more times before there a fix this one was for transmission update in computer. Went for buy back but a lack of comm. with dealer and manufacturer caused a one more chance deal which they claimed to have a fix. So arbitrator rules for them and I got a extended service plan also. Well I already had the first extended warranty which covers more. So back in it went again lasted about two weeks then back to hesitation. Now it is in the shop and there is another update which brings it to five in a year needless to say I have already contacted the better business bureu its buy back time this thing is driving me nuts. There has also been the little things too.
  • Hi,
    You are right about the customer service offered by VW. It's a shame they just don't care about servicing their customer. I wonder how they expect to get repeat buyers. With the Touareg you need an extended warranty, a bible and rosary beads. Some of the bugs are still in the 2006 model. Wish I knew more about the vehicle before I was swayed by its seductive exterior and roomy inside!
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,670
    an issue that was previously complained about, but I do not know if this query was discussed about 06 and 07 Explorer...

    I am aware the 06 door panels have a problem, some have grown used to it, some have not, saying the problem was solved on the 07...

    Aside from the door panels on the 06, is that the only real difference between the two???...meaning, if I could get used to the 06 door panel, might I pick one up as a leftover or slightly used for a bargain???

    Did the 06 have any of the "Don't ever buy the first year of a redesign because they haven't worked the bugs out yet" problems (where they fixed it in 07), or was the remainder of the truck well-made and bulletproof???

    If, other than the door panel, the rest of the truck was well made without 1st year problems, it may be worth it for me to look at it...the folks on the Aviator topic scared me away from considering an Aviator...:):):):):)

    I also promise that by the year 2025 I will have DEFINITELY settled on which SUV I want...too bad we will run out of oil three years before that...:):):)
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    I owned a 2006 Mountaineer 4.6 AWD, which was among the first 1,000 produced, for 18,000+ miles. The ONLY problem was an out-of-balance drive shaft that was replaced. Otherwise, despite a significant amount of off-roading, and ~ 5,000 miles of towing a 5,000# trailer, there were no problems, no squeaks or rattles.

    We did adapt to the door handles.

    The vehicle exceeded my expectations. :)
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    This is basically the same motor as in the Mustang GT with an iron block instead of aluminum. Its a Wards 10 best engine and well worth the extra purchase cost.

    The V8 comes with a 6speed trans verse the 5 speed trans on the V6. Accordingly, fuel econ is similar.

    Mark.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,622
    past tense?
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    Yep. Since I no longer have the trailer, I don't need the Mountaineer, and want something more car-like.

    Bought a CX-9.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Did the 06 have any of the "Don't ever buy the first year of a redesign because they haven't worked the bugs out yet" problems (where they fixed it in 07), or was the remainder of the truck well-made and bulletproof???

    I have an 06 marsha - I don't love the door handles, but am used to them, and my wife kind of likes them...(go figure, she's a woman, what can I say)... We have 11,000 miles on ours, and the only issue we have had is some rough shifting from the 6 speed transmission, but the dealer seemed to fix that pretty well. When warmed up, it's butter smooth. Cold starts are still a tad abupt when shifting the 1st and 2nd gears, but not annoyingly so.

    What I give the 06 big points for is the V-8 is VERY responsive from the hole out, unlike the 04 we had which was a little slow off the line. The new transmission and increased horsepower of the 3V engine makes it a ton of fun to drive. The seats are much improved over the previous models as well.

    On a scale of 1-10, overall, I would rate the 06 a solid 9.5. I wouldn't be afraid to buy one - obviously, I did.
  • sacmtnrsacmtnr Posts: 15
    I purchased a 2007 Mountaineer about 2 months ago. Over all it is a great vehicle. The only problem I have is that it seems to shift roughly between 1st and 2nd. If you're going slow, it shifts hard between the two. If you are giving it a fair amount of gas, it seems to lag between shifts. Shifting between all other gears, up or down, is flawless. Is this a common problem and/or one that can be addressed by the dealer?

    Any info is appreciated. Thanks
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Unfortunately, this is a common characteristic of the new 6 speed transmission. (I assume you have the V-8). I was really hoping by now, this would have been remedied, as it was a problem for the 06 model year. Your dealer can fix that with a reprogram, or if more is needed, changing out the valve body, and then reprogramming. It will get much better. I have found with my 06, which had the same problem, the hotter the transmission gets, the better it shifts. Some cold start hard shifting seems inherent in the transmission, even after treatment.

    Take it in, there is a TSB on it, I don't have the number, but your dealer should be WELL aware of this complaint!! I have to tell ya though, my dealer didn't get it right the first time. The second time, I asked for the transmission technician to go for a ride with me and demonstrated my complaint. He admitted it wasn't right, and it was then I got the new valve body, and much improvement.

    Patience and courtesy usually prevail in these cases.
  • sacmtnrsacmtnr Posts: 15
    Thank you for the info.

    I took it in today and they did the reprogram while I waited. It seems fine now; rode smooth as silk on the way home. Let's hope this does the trick.

    Thanks again for the info and I'll post again later on whether or not it stays smooth.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Excellent. I'm pleased to report that my 06 is getting nearly 15 MPG in TOWN (my wife won't drive a freeway, only surface streets). This is the best mileage by far any of my 6 Explorers have ever gotten, even the 6 cylinder ones, and this is the most powerful one by far. I love the truck, wouldn't trade it for any other on the market presently.
  • sacmtnrsacmtnr Posts: 15
    Our Mountaineer is getting about 13 with my wife driving it back and forth to school (teacher) but this is totally stop and go. Only a 10 mile drive that takes about 30 minutes. Checked it last weekend on a short highway trip and the computer was registering right at 20. I'm curious to see if the reprograming will make any difference. It only has about 1500 miles on it and I have been told that the mileage might even improve a little with a few more miles. I previously owned a 92 explorer and that got about the same mileage. Power is significantly higher with the Mountaineer however.

    I totally agree that these are the best vehicles on the market in their class. I love everything about it (well, getting use to the door handles anyway) and the ride and performance are fantastic. We even took it off road last weekend and it performed perfectly. It's a total blast to drive.

    Thanks again for the info.
  • msc1msc1 Posts: 5
    My 2006 Explorer is at the dealership for the fourth time with issues with the transmission. The dealership says they can't find anything wrong and that the computer doesn't give them any codes to find anything wrong. It has been very frustrating. After the first visit, they did a computer update which helped for a couple weeks but then starting having the same problems. We have nicknamed the truck "Hoppin John" because of the way it takes off and the way if drives around in the parking lot at very low speeds. Also if you're slowing down for a red light which turns green and so you speed up again, it's like the rear end is falling off. Anyone know if this could apply to the lemon law?????
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Check the lemon law in your state - they vary from state to state.. Normally though, you need to have the vehicle into the dealer for the SAME issue a certain number of times in a certain perior of time, documented, and unresolved to get lemon law attention.

    A better solution is to fix the transmission - it can be fixed. This is a known problem, there is a TSB out on it, and if the dealer is telling you there is nothing wrong, do what I did. Politely request that the Service Manager take a ride with you when it acts up the most, for me, that was when the car was cold. He opted to have the Transmission guy go with. As soon as the car did its shuck and jive from first to second a few times, I turned to him and asked him, "Is that normal?" He said, "of course not, we can help you with this". They replaced a valve assembly, reprogrammed it, and it's been much much better ever since. Almost perfect. When it's warm, it is perfect.

    It's impossible for them to deny a problem if you can get them into the car with you while it does it. But lots of times, these guys like to hide behind the "computer isn't throwing a code" crap because it takes work to domesticate a claim to Ford for warranty reimbursement without one. You have to make them.

    Be polite as all get out - but persistant as a missionary, and as patient as a tree - and get the car fixed. You'll love it once you do. At least, that's my advice. :shades:
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