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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2006 and newer

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  • This is as much a question as it is Informational. Unless I'm mistaken, I think Mercury has made an error in the towing capacity they quote for the Mountaineer. Several phone calls and e-mails to dealerships and to Mercury have gone, essentially, unanswered.
    I wanted to share this for those that use the vehicle for what it was intended (utility) and specifically for towing. The 2007 brochure states the towing capacity for the V-8 engine at 7220 lbs (4x2) and 7050 lbs (AWD) when equipped with the Class IV towing package. This is about the same as the Ford Explorer.
    We have been shopping for a replacement SUV for our '04 Mountaineer and had just about settled on the Mountaineer when I realized that you can't get a MM without the 3rd Row Seat and Auxiliary Climate Control. The ACC reduces the towing capacity by 500 lbs. But Mercury's specs do not reflect this. I believe the maximum towing should be 6720 (4x2) and 6550 (AWD).
    With the Ford Explorer, the 3rd Seat and ACC is optional on the XLT and Eddie Bauer trim lines. It's standard on the Limited, but can be deleted. Deleting the 3rd Row Seat and ACC is NOT available on the MM.
    I think Mercury has made a huge mistake and from the silence I have received from my inquires, I'm assuming no one at Mercury wants to admit the error. A difference of 500 lbs is a lot of weight to state can be safely towed by a vehicle when in reality(?) may be outside what the rating should be.
    We will be ordering an Explorer sometime this winter because towing a boat is the reason we even need an SUV and I'm looking for the maximum towing capacity.
    I thought I should share this with others in the same boat (no pun intended) as us. If I'm wrong, I wish someone from Mercury would tell me, but I have to believe they aren't responding because they aren't sure what to say.
    I'm not sure what legal ramifications this could lead to for them; people towing unsafe weight limits, returning a vehicle because you can't tow the stated weigh limit, etc.
    If for some reason, I'm just not interpreting this information correctly, please enlighten me. Otherwise, I thought it best to share with the rest.
    Safe Towing!
  • Interesting, is this new for 07? Because I just purchased an 06 Mountaineer Luxury (V8, tow package, third row seats) but do NOT have the Auxiliary Climate Control.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    All Mountaineers come with standard third row. Premiers come with the power fold 3rd row standard.

    ACC is optional on all Mtneers.

    Mark
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Who told you ACC reduces towing capacity by 500 pounds?

    Mark.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    if you are going to tow something that weighs 2500 lbs more than your tow vehicle, you ought to pick a bigger platform.
    it could end up with the tail wagging the dog.
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    I towed a 5,300# travel trailer from AZ to MI & back this summer with my 2006 Mountaineer 4.6 AWD. No problems.
  • Apparently. Mercury also eliminated the "Luxury" trim line for 2007. The choices are now either a "Mountaineer" - only available with the V-6 Engine...or the "Premier Mountaineer" - with your choice of the V-6 or V-8 Engine.

    The Premier has Standard 3rd Row Seating and Aux Climate Control. I contacted Mercury and they indicated that neither the 3rd Row Seat or the ACC could be deleted - even if special ordered.
  • ACC is STANDARD on Premier Mountaineer - the only Montaineer that you can get with the V-8. ACC is optional only on the 'Mountaineer' (Non-Premier).

    Regarding the reduced Towing Capacity - from Ford's own website;

    * Deduct 500 lbs. with auxiliary climate control.

    With the Mountaineer and Explorer essentially being the same vehicle, I don't know why the 500 lb reduction would hold true for one and not the other.
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  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    The wiring diagrams show a separate fuse for the trailer back up lights. I plan to connect my navigation unit to that wire (it needs to sense when the vehicle is reversing).
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    i just remember driving back from mackinaw and seeing 3 big box travel trailers that rolled over in a cross wind and took the small tow vehicles with them.
    i was not referring to enough power to pull the weight.
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    What were the "small" vehicles?
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    Expy/M'eer have option packages that include HID/Xenon headlights???
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    one was a full size pickup, but not with the dual rear wheels.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Bought an 06 Explorer Limited, this time. My first Explorer was an Explorer in 94. An Eddie Bauer. Then I discovered that the Mountaineer has similar trim levels, so bought a 97, 98, 02 and still have the 04 Mountaineer. Wouldn't have moved so quickly, but the deal was outrageous, and got Navigation and the DVD system in this one, plus, the power folding 3rd seats - funny and strange, I know, but I just loved that feature in my last Navigator, and getting it in this car almost made me miss my Navigator less. Once I saw that, it was over for me.

    The engine in this new one is the 3valve 4.6L, and it's darn peppy. It has "real" 4x4 rather than the perfectly acceptable to me AWD the Mountaineers came with. The transmission is a little clunky going back into 1st, it seems, but if it's not normal, they'll fix it first oil change for me.

    Still hate the door panels, but the wife, whose car this will mainly be, doesn't mind them. The Grand daughter who lives with us loves the DVD system, so that's all that matters to Grandma. But, I digress.

    I shopped every mid-sized SUV on the planet. Still think Ford has the best design. Toyota may execute better, but their old 4-Runner is very trucky, and the 3rd seat is a joke. Honda's Pilot is strictly a minivan in disguise. Nissan is having so many problems lately, I've taken them off the bid list. I have to tow, so that left Ford & GM. It was no contest on any level there. So, Bill, do I get anything for buying 6 of these things? Through thick & thin, rollovers and Firestones, new designs and redesigns, we're still here! Where's my toaster?? :shades:
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    If the location of the Overdrive switch button troubles you, I have a very effective, quick, inexpensive fix.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Well, it doesn't, having had it similarly placed on various Fords since my 1990 Cougar, but I'm fascinated by what this potential fix could possibly be.... :confuse:
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    Can you actually reach the button while the palm of your hand is on the shift lever?

    If so, is your name Shaquille?

    Is it correct that you have a 2006 model with the 6-speed transmission?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Well, let me go see. ....... Yes, lg, I have the V-8 with the 6 speed trans, and I can hit the button with my ring finger around the grip if I have to use it. It's not well placed, you are right. What's this fix?
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    Two tongue depressors and a few inches of vinyl electrician's tape.

    * Glue the tongue depressors together to make one of double thickness.

    * Cover the depressor with tape. (for appearance & to avoid abrading the switch button)

    * Mount the depressor vertically on the driver's side of the shift lever.

    * Snugly tape the top end of the double tongue depressor to the shift lever left side, just below the chrome cap.

    * Lightly tape the lower end to the shift lever at the bottom of the tongue depressor. Be careful to avoid having the depressor activate the switch. The bottom tape is to provide resistance to fore & aft movement of the depressor.

    * Done. Now the switch can be activated with light thumb force on the depressor without unpleasant wrist contortions or lifting my hand from the top of the shift lever..

    The black tape hides everything nicely. In over a year, no one, including my wife, has noticed it.

    I do a fair amount of off-road and mountain driving, and use the switch frequently.

    Sounds hokey, but it's actually a very effective and sanitary modification.
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