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Nissan 300ZX

I have always wanted to get a nissan 300zx tt.

I have been looking at a 95 nissan 300zx tt with 55k miles on it... the car looks great and is asking for 21K..

The edmunds site gives me a fair value of 13-15K and i can't figure out why the owner is so far from the edmunds price range..

can you help with what i should be thinking of and advice on how i should price a car like this..

Thanks
T
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    The problem is that the car is not for sale. The seller is either out of touch with reality, or greedy, or he is looking for a sucker who will pay about 50% over market value. He can't possibly really expect to sell the car at that price.

    Blow him off. There are plenty of these cars around if you look hard enough. True the miles are low, but you can't give yourself an $7,000 bonus for miles.

    Or ---if you are really hot for this car, offer him the $15,000 right there right now. That is MORE than generous. If he walks away from a bona fide $15,000 on the table, he's a fool.

    Let someone else pay $7K-8K over retail for a car that will only continue to depreciate anyway for some time. Not you.

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  • hi!
    I'm new around and I didn't figure out how to post my own new message...someone can help me?

    About the 300zx, I just bought one for $11000 Can.
    It's a '90 and it has 66000 miles.
    They're pretty rare so they keep their price!

    I have a question about the Climate control.
    I have 2 readings on the LED panel...temp and Amb. What does mean AMB?
    There is no sliders of any kind to control the air through the vent paths.
    How do I proceed to let it go through the defrost ones or at the feet or right on me?
    By playing with the temp on the control, it varies the paths but I don't master it very well. Is that the only way?
    thanks
    GuyGuy
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    Since we don't have an active forum for the 300ZX and since a few questions have come up about them, I'm going to change the original title of this forum slightly so as to generalize it for all 300ZXs.

    GUYGUY: Sounds like you need to invest the $25 or so and get an owner's manual at the dealership.

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  • guyguyguyguy Posts: 4
    Hi!
    I alrady ask my Nissan dealer about getting an owner's manual.......it seems impossible to get since it's a '90 car...
    do you know where I could find one?
    Guy
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    Oh, he's just blowing you off. Of course you can order one.

    But if he WON'T order it, try eBay. I'm sure you'd find it there.

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  • guyguyguyguy Posts: 4
    hi again!
    I'll try to contact directly Nissan to get it.
    On Ebay, there's only manual for the 80's models.
    GuyGuy
  • lemmerlemmer Posts: 2,676
    is an abbreviation for ambient
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    Well on eBay set up a "search" for the 90s manual and they'll notify you when they spot something on auction.

    Last resort, start up a conversation with a 300ZX owner next time you have a chance, and make a copy of the manual and buy him (or her!) lunch.

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  • zenithzenith Posts: 1
    There are a number of Z sites. For example: twinturbo.net zhome.com 300zxclub.com
    There is an online service manual at 300zx-twinturbo.com/cgi-bin/manual.cgi
    The advice regarding the value of a low mileage twin turbo is dead wrong! Ztt's with 20-30K miles are selling in the $20,000 range. You simply can't find low mileage and unmodified Ztt's anymore. It is the law of supply and demand. The car won almost all sports car comparisons with its 1990-1995 models. Today, with its super HICAS steering and handling (4-wheel steering)300HP, slick shifter, pefect ergonomics, classic great looks, T-roofs, roominess, quality build, adjustable suspension, etc., this car remains competitive with todays' sports cars that sell for $35-60 thousand - and no longer is depreciating in value.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    Prices given weren't for extraordinary low mileage cars, which are kind of freaks. The $10K-$15K price range are for very sharp cars with normal mileage, as was the information that they are continuing to depreciate (that is, the older they are the less they cost, unlike "collectible" cars, which cost more as they age usually.)

    Anyway, I think the point everyone was trying to make was that the true "market" is based on the largest number of sales, not the extreme highs or lows.

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  • guyguyguyguy Posts: 4
    Hi!
    As I can read, I believe that I made a good deal with my 300zx...
    It has 66000 miles and it's mint. I paid 10500$ CAN.
    Is it logical to think that the 300zx will become collectible very soon since there's not much of them on the road?
    GuyGuy
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    It doesn't show any signs of doing so, no. But any older car with power and style will always be worth something--just don't expect the value to go up and up as if it were a Hemi Cuda or something because it is a Japanese car and in the end and they don't become collectible in the real sense of the word. This has never happened with a mass-produced Japanese car--that it went to a "first-tier" collectible status. However, a clean well-cared for example of any handsome Japanese sport coupe will always bring a decent Book Value or even higher than book in some cases.

    But even a pristine original 240Z would be lucky to hit $15-17K, even after 35 years. They are desirable but not "hot" market items. I think the 300ZX will be about the same in the future.

    Use it up and enjoy it, that's the way to treat a 300ZX. Storing it or waiting for some pot of gold just isn't logical in this case.

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  • 91zxtt91zxtt Posts: 2
    Hello to everyone, i have a 91 300zx tt stage 2 car with manual trans with 112,00 miles and in excellent condition, i have a question about the turbos just recently the boost gauge doesnt go past 0 and the car still runs but the turbos arent kicking in anyone know what the problem could be?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    Sounds like maybe some of your turbo piping is leaking...has the idle changed or do you stall if you suddenly take your foot off the gas?

    If you really aren't getting any boost, the car should be running like a complete dog, regarding acceleration. There should be a dramatic loss of power, unless your boost gauge is lying.

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  • 91zxtt91zxtt Posts: 2
    the car is running like it has no turbos and as for the stalling it runs and idles fine just no boost, if the turbos were gone and the wastegates were as well the car wouldnt run at all right, im hoping its a simple and inexpensive fix
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    Hmmmm...turbos don't usually just "stop"---they whine and howl in protest and then seize up...but the wastegate could be dumping all boost, that's true. If it's not stalling and is idling well I don't think you have a piping leak on the intake side at least.

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  • omegagenomegagen Posts: 67
    I too have been looking for a 300zxtt, but the prices on low mileage Z's is ridiculous! I found what looks like a pristine silver '91 300zxtt with 19,250 miles, but the guy is asking 23.5K!!!! The NADA value is $11349?! What gives?? I've been looking for a nice Z since last year, but the owners must be smoking crack because the prices are waaaaayyyyy over retail. And don't even think about looking for a Supra-tt, nicer ones cost $30K and up!

    Which leads me to wonder how does Edmunds, NADA, KBB derive the value of cars such as these?


    Who? If anyone buys these cars at these prices? I want a 300zxtt real bad, but I REFUSE to pay $20K for any Z!! 15K is the max and I feel that's too much!

    Here's the link to the one I'm looking at:

    http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=175148923&dealer_id=55697043&car_year=1991&se- arch_type=both&make=NISSAN&model=300ZXTURBO&transmission=Manual&distance=0&address=28451&a- dvanced=&certified=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=1995&color=&start_year=1991&color3=&col- or2=&isp=y&engine=&lang=en&cardist=984

    I need to sell my 1998 Mustang GT first, but I'm sure he want sell it anytime soon.

    Thanks!
  • toddmtntoddmtn Posts: 1
    Yup...my 84 has gone thru about 4 alternators and 2 batteries in about 4k of driving. Anyone else have this problem with their Z-car? If so did you remedy the situation and if so further, what didja do to correct it?

    Thanx...

    ...Todd
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,317
    Could the high prices indicate that the previous generation Zs, and Supras, will eventually become classics? That's an intriguing prospect, since Japanese cars virtually never achieve classic status; collector status, sometimes, but not classic.
  • 96zguy96zguy Posts: 1
    I have a '96 300zx NA. Recently I have been having problems with the
    horn going off when the headlights are on. The nissan dealer service
    shop traced the problem to a faulty diode (near the glove compartment)
    with some exposed wires. It seems any time the wires are hit by any
    moisture, the horn goes haywire. The problem only happens when driving
    in the wet. The service shop said the problem required around a week's
    worth of work to dismantle the dash and fix the faulty diode. They
    also recommended taking it in to a body shop to fix any leaks in the
    body so that water does not spray into the diode compartment.
    Before going ahead with this obviously expensive repair, I was
    looking to see if anyone here has any suggestions on a cheaper
    alternative. Has anyone else had this problem and if they did, were
    they hit with a big repair bill? Thanks for any advice.
  • I just purchased it, the turbos are not working (I think) no boost after 3000 rpm or anything noticable, no turbo sound, and turbo meter does not move :sick: ?
  • goodman3goodman3 Posts: 3
    I just signed in and read something about site inactivity.
    It's an enjoyable site for me .
    Also I may need to sell my 91 twinturbo (need to carry 4 pple.) and was hoping to get guidance from members.
    Never thought I'd get sentimental over a car,but it happened after owning it for 14 years. Like a good companion. So,I want it to go to someone who really knows how to take care of it.
    Should I describe it here? Thanks
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 979
    Welcome, goodman3!

    I think the remark about inactivity was made before the title of this topic was changed to include all 350ZXs. You might want to go to Edmunds.com. Click on the TMV symbol part-way down the page to figure out how to appraise your car to get the best price.

    You're welcome to ask for advice from the members here too, but selling/swapping/trading is not allowed in the Forums. If you're interested in selling your car online, click the "Sell Your Car" link at Edmunds.com to place an ad.

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  • scantyscanty Posts: 171
    for finding a "good" home for your TT when it comes time to sell it. I'm in the same situation with my '94. After 11 years, the last thing I want to see is my car in the hands of some ham fisted hack who wants to put a 767 wing on the trunk lid and cover the thing in stickers.
  • goodman3goodman3 Posts: 3
    Thanks to both of you. Good to hear someone else who doesnt want to see years of caring wasted. Scanty, I'll try Woodland Hills CA for local club-.Do you know of a national club.?
    I'll start a new thread describing my somewhat unusual car to see if there are any ideas.
    Some article said autotrader was biggest, then cars.com then eBay.
    If I learn something that might be useful in selling yours-it will be reported here.
  • goodman3goodman3 Posts: 3
    Reading you guys makes me wonder if the car is a bit special.
    Everything is original with 76 k mi. and semi-perfect pearl paint .It has no cat converters(legal because i paid a fine and the State of California returned me ?200$ a year later-strange) and someone said that yields 320 hp on a dyno. I suspect he's exaggerating.
    I'll try to find a local club, but I'm unsure what to ask because the range of national averages is meaninglessly wide. I was thinking of 12.5 k, but posts here suggest I'm wrong.
  • dwinndwinn Posts: 1
    I have a 1986 300zx other than a slightly bent frame, needs rear axle bearings and electric windows dont work. Just over 100k on engine and tranny. good running engine and tranny. Any ideas on where I can sell it cheaply and quickly? Its no longer suitable for my needs being only a two seater.
  • scantyscanty Posts: 171
    to see if there is a club near you. zhome

    Autotrader, cars.com and ebay are big, and I had good luck selling on autotrader ( '92 Taurus SHO) and buying on ebay ('99 Pathfinder), but for the Z car, I don't want to put up with a bunch of BS from tire kickers and joyriders.

    The books and the guru's might think that $12,5 is too high, but for an all original, one owner, never wrecked TT, you never know...
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 979
    dwinn, you can sell your car with AutoTrader by going to Edmunds.com and clicking the "Sell Your Car" link.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,717
    You can always ask $12.5K and see what happens, or you could try eBay to test the market.

    That is, I have to admit, a whoppin' high asking price but as they say, you only need one buyer. My gut feeling is that the car could sell at $9K or thereabouts but if we split the diff between your opinion and mine we might end up with an achievable price.

    so the deal is, if you ask $12.5K or put that reserve on it in eBay, and nobody goes for it, then the general public has given their opinion as to the worth of your car.

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