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The Next Acura NSX !

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  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    Well I think Honda is finally getting serious about the NSX REALLY competing in the high-end sports cars segment! Honda just said the next NSX was gonna get a V10!!! I'm sure what made them take this decision is Toyota and its LF-A, obviously, they don't want Toyota to steal them some sales. But a V10 is really surprising from Honda! They won't build any V8, but V10 is okay? Weird... Anyway I'm really surprised with these news and I wonder how much power would a Honda V10 engine deliver?
    http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102830
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    Somewhere over 450 hp. The thing that I really adored about the NSX was its super maneuverability. Hope they don't give that up for extra ponies.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    This time I don't get Honda at all. They're willing to give the V8 luxury car market to Lexus/Infiniti and all the Euros, but will spend the money on a V10 for a limited production car that they won't be able to keep competitive/update as the competition changes....like the NSX.

    I understand the link to F1 by building a V10, but if the proposed Lexus sports car is bothering them, how come the GS430 and M45 isn't? Three to four years is a long time by then 450hp will be "weak", hell 450hp doesn't stand out in NSX's class now.

    Maybe they'll do a V10 RL? Not!

    M
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    Agree, this seems to be a very silly decision to make an all new V10 for only 1 sports car... Somehow, they're bound to use it somewhere else to lower costs a bit but look at the current NSX: has it shared any of its engine components with other Honda cars yet? From what I know, no! And deciding to go straight up from V6 to V10 is also suspicious... Why isn't Honda building any V8??? It almost seems like they're scared of not doing it well! And I also wonder why they're SO obssessed with building FWD luxury cars and haven't changed yet to RWD or AWD for their whole line-up since they launched Acura in 1987! They've had plenty of time to think about that! Anyway, if this time they manage to reach the number of sales they want, I can only say good job Acura!
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    Question (no, really):
    how are TL and RL sales these days (OK, the TL part is rhetorical)? Are these units moving well enough and at enough of a profit that perhaps Acura can distinguish itself without the the V8, or even RWD. They may not make my personal list of wanna-haves, but they seem to make a whole of of other folks.

    I see the NSX successor as merely a halo car, and therefore, given Honda's racing history, the V-10 seems if not obvious then certainly a legitimate inference.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Rumors (just rumors) are spreading that Honda has been testing a Ridgeline with a V8 under the hood. However, the rumorists (is that a word?) have it that the engine is actually destined for the Acura RL and the Ridgeline is just a test mule.

    The V10 is very likely to be an F1 inspired design. In fact, it could be the same V10 they've used in the past, just greatly modified for street use. Think Ferrari Enzo only call it the Acura Soichiro.

    Which wheel should they power? The one that makes the car turn. Corporate leaders has announced plans to spread the use of SH-AWD through-out the Acura line. It has already been announced that the RDX will get it. It's very likely the upcoming MDX will get it. And the TL will likely get it with the mid-model change for MY 2007. How far downmarket it goes is anybody's guess.
  • retro12retro12 Posts: 2
    I think Acura won't go anymore with the NSX. I've read several articles indicating that the NSX might be dissappearing soon. Well a car like the NSX that costs $89,000 and only powers 290 hp is not much when buying the new RL, it has a starting price $49,100 and powers 300 hp. In the end they both are Acura and maybe they are different in a couple of features but they are both almost the same. It's just a waste of money for Acura so for their own good they should just end it after some many years of failure....
  • pg48477pg48477 Posts: 309
    The only thing NSX does not have is a name like Porshe, even now it's just as good if not better then Porshe, in the same price range.

    Honda does have V8 in IRL, and V10 in F1, so would not be surprised if they will move both engines to the street. The way Acura's selling, they'll have enof money to build a new sports car and new luxury sedan above RL. Honda also already have a RWD platform used for S2000. If they will manage to put together V10 with SH- AWD and RWD platform, I'll say good for them.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    A V-10?

    Like BMW, Honda might try to market its high-performance car as an F1 car for the road. They might milk all of their success in F1 as benefiting their road car. Perhaps Honda will get serious about international sports car racing and race the next NSX in sports car racing outside their conuntry against Porsche 911s, Panoz Esperante GTLMs, Ferraris, and what not.
  • j2kvaj2kva Posts: 2
    I think Honda is going outside the norm with their V10 announcement to show the world that they are not stuck in their ways. Also, the v10 technology will most likely trickle down to smaller engines, like a V8 for the RL/Legend which consumers have been looking for sometime now, but just hasn't been offered. There has been so much speculation: front engine, mid engine, all wheel drive.... I have a feeling the nsx replacement will be mid-engine and rwd again. As for an SH-AWD car, that sounds more like a 2-door RL sport, seeing as Honda really has nothing in the line-up to compete with say a BMW M6 or Aston Martin.

    I believe the NSX, S2000, and RSX will all be revived in some fashion, but Honda will take its time to get it right, and also it cant get in the way of the release schedules of other bread and butter models like the civic. My 2 cents.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    Also, the v10 technology will most likely trickle down to smaller engines, like a V8 for the RL/Legend which consumers have been looking for sometime now, but just hasn't been offered

    Don't forget the new future mdx/pilot suvs and ridgeline trucks :mad: !!
  • I read somewhere that the new V10 on the new nsx will evenually go into the RL. If this does, I guess it should give BMW, Mercedes, and other euros a run for there money.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    From one of the car web sites:

    Last we heard Acura designers still couldn’t decide on the look for the next-generation Acura NSX supercar. According to AutoCar, Honda has finished worked on the new NSX and sources say that the front-engined V10 supercar will be unveiled at next year’s Tokyo Auto Show.

    Sources have told AutoCar that the fugly looks of the NSX concept have been completely redesigned since it’s debut at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show.

    “It now has Chevrolet Corvette overtones,” sources say. Power is still to come from a 4.5 liter V10 engine that produces around 550-hp, enough to take on the Nissan GT-R.
    Sources at Honda have confirmed that the rear-wheel-drive platform of the NSX will spawn a new range of sports cars with Acura badges on them. Honda will also switch to rear-wheel-drive for its large sedans including the RL and TL.


    While the RL may eventually go to a RWD platform I doubt it will get the NSX engine. This new V10 will probably be saved for some new un-announced full size offering.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    Honda’s NSX replacement has had several false starts, with the company scrapping the car’s design after the public’s largely negative response to its Acura Advanced Sports Car Concept, shown at 2007’s Detroit Auto Show. Beyond the styling difficulties, ensuring the car will compete successfully with Lexus’s LF-A, Nissan’s GT-R, and Ferrari and Lamborghini’s sport-focused offerings is also taking time. But the company is sure it will do so, and the target date is 2010.

    Speaking with MotorAuthority, Acura spokesman Mike Spencer confirmed several details of the upcoming NSX replacement. The car will definitely be powered by a V10 engine, and it will be equipped with the company’s SH-AWD system. There has been some discussion of a possible four-wheel steering system (4WS) for the NSX replacement, but Spencer suggested the SH-AWD system would achieve most of the benefits of 4WS without the added complexity.

    The original NSX was a mid-engine, rear-wheel drive V6-powered car, so the replacement will share little in common with it from a technical point of view. The replacement is also unlikely to share the NSX name - Spencer referred to it only as the ‘NSX replacement.’

    Pricing of the NSX replacement will also be a bit different than the original. The low price of the NSX - $60,000 in the U.S. on its 1990 debut, rising to just below $100,000 by the end of its model run in 2005 - will no longer be so low, with pricing to compete with its performance rivals from Ferrari and Lamborghini.

    The NSX replacement’s primary competition at Ferrari and Lamborghini will come most likely in the form of the F430 and Gallardo, respectively. Both start around $180,000, and according to Spencer, current exchange rates between the Yen and the U.S. Dollar mean the NSX replacement will be priced in line with that figure.

    Pricing the NSX’s replacement at effectively double the price of the last model means Honda/Acura is positioning the car as a direct competitor to Europe’s elite supercars - not a budget alternative.

    Nissan’s GT-R is priced to fit into the latter category, although its 2+2 seating configuration and hefty dimensions take it out of direct competition with lightweight two-seaters anyway. Lexus’s LF-A supercar is perhaps a more direct competitor for the NSX replacement and its European counterparts, and rumors of its pricing range from just over $100,000 to nearer the $170,000 mark, tending to confirm that Nissan’s GT-R isn’t the LF-A’s target, either.

    When it debuted in 1990, Honda’s NSX was hailed by many as one of the best performance cars ever to come out of Japan, and it equaled several of the established European sports cars of the day, including Ferrari’s 348. Its use of high-tech materials and design would set the standard for the next decade.

    Although the original car’s 5.2 second 0-60mph time and 13.3 second quarter-mile time would qualify it more as a sports car than a supercar by today’s standards - Nissan’s latest 350Z posts similar numbers, and the standard Corvette coupe beats both figures by at least 0.4 seconds - the updated replacement is shaping up to be a purebred supercar, with a price to match.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    The NSX sucessor was "canceled" but could come back if the economy gets better. It's mostly done so it's really delayed. This is from Richard Colliver who works for Honda.

    http://www.motorauthority.com/acura-ready-to-compete-with-tier-1-luxury-brands.h- tml
  • My guess is that the earthquake will delay everything.
  • This forum is really out of date. The new, very shapely 2013 NSX was advertised at the 2012 Super Bowl and has been to the Detroit Auto Show. The good news is that it will be S-AWD and have both a V-6 mid-rear engine and two electric motors, making it a very efficient and very fast hybrid sports car.
  • Claire@EdmundsClaire@Edmunds Chicago areaPosts: 968
    Aside from conjecture, there hasn't been much to say about it for awhile.

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