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Jeep Commander

teds1teds1 Posts: 180
Are they kidding with this? Wow Chrysler must have really shelled out the big bucks to get the crack Bulgarian design team that sketched this monstrosity... I have rarely seen more conflicting shapes and angles on a vehicle. I really don't care how functional it is or how many people can fit in it, they should have stretched the new (and not that pretty either)Grand Cherokee if they needed the room. that vertical windshield makes me think of strange euro city cars, not rugged classic Jeeps
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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Agreed. I cant think of a more off-puttingly styled vehicle. Bleh. Good luck to DCX.

    ~alpha
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Yeah I have to say this thing is most unnatractive and shaped like a brick. I knew they were on that sort of styling kick looking at the 2005 JGC but gee moe netty this this thing looks awful. Too bad because they're dreaming if they think they'll sell 60-70K of these a year. I feel bad for Jeep because this is just the entry they need in the luxury SUV arena.

    M
  • Did you see the vehicle in person?

    If it was designed to hold another row of passengers by utilizing an existing platform while staying consistent with the Jeep styling heritage, then they hit their target IMHO.

    Based upon the pictures it reminds me of the G500 or first generation Range Rover. I kinda like that look but I recognize that the style is not currently fashionable.

    Any cargo capacity information?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,694
    much better than the Grand Cherokee, which it's based off. I think it's an excellent update of previous Jeep wagon design. I see a ton of Cherokee in it, as well early ('48 – '62) Willys station wagon.

    It's a Jeep, and it looks like a Jeep.

    Bob
  • I love the way the Jeep Commander looks. It goes right back to the roots of what a jeep should be- none of this, round edges that we see all the time. I think they are right on track. And I am excited to see how the public will take to a more retro look.
  • robtichrobtich Posts: 1
    I cannot wait to see it when it arrives at the dealers. It looks like a Jeep which is the way it should be; but bring back the inline-6!
  • I like it. It reminds me of a muscled up Cherokee. A model that I miss after owing two ('94 and '97).
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    I look at the Jeep Commander as a vehicle with great potential. It is the first Jeep vehicle to seat more than 5. The Cherokee is a midsize vehicle but it lacks the seven passenger seating of the Explorer, TrailBlazer/Envoy, 4Rummer and the Pathfinder. The Cherokee seats only five and that also in very cramped conditions.

    The Commander is perfect for those who need off road ability as well as room for passengers and cargo. It's good the solid rugged looks that vehicles like the Explorer and 4Runner lack.

    As I hear it will also be offered with a HEMI engine, so power will be no problem.

    The only problem that I can forecast is fuel economy. Boxy vehicles have never gotten very good mileage. Also, hopefully Chrysler will spend some time and money in designing the interior so that the Commander is not criticised for having cheap interior pieces and poor build quality.

    The Commander is a great vehicle, the kind that was missing from the Jeep lineup for years. Now if only they would build the Gladiator concept.......
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,897
    I talked to a Chrysler manager about the Commander yesterday, and it's all ready bar the finishing touches. He was pretty excited about this vehicle as well. He was driving a new Grand Cherokee, and did mention that this (and the Commander) are just perfect without the HEMI. He felt that the HEMI is slightly too much power for the vehicle's size & weight, and the main result is decreased fuel mileage (unless you're doing serious off-roading).

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  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    in an auto mag (I get 3, so I never remember which one had it), and I kinda like the boxiness, in a Volvo-like sort of way...as I consider future SUV purchase, the list consists of Pathfinder, 2005 redesigned Explorer, and possibly this...I do not care if it seats 7, but if the seats fold down, then there should be more cargo room then Grand Cherokee, which makes it easier to travel with a large dog or two behind the 2nd row of seats...but if they cheapen the interior to junk, then Ford or Nissan will earn my $$$... :) :)
  • chrisducatichrisducati Posts: 394
    I like this much better than the grand Cherokee. This is what the Grand should have been from the first. I have never liked the soap bar shape of the Grand. Now if DC can bring the interior quality up and make the reliability a reason to buy then it should be great.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    dead...glad to see someone is watching...
  • I just got info on the Jeep Commander yesterday and I love it. I now own a 2004 Grand Cherokee after having the Cherokee Classic. I loved that Classic and should've kept it, the inline 6 is die-hard dependable and the mileage was great, but the new Grand is pretty, but not even close on the mileage and I have an inline 6 in this one, plus the Grand Laredo doens't have the rear ac/heat vents at the bottom of the console like the Classic did. I'm glad to see Jeep is going back to its roots and bringing back a classic with a nice redesign. I just hope it's made affordable to those of us who are Cherokee Classic lovers!!!
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    What info did you receive, and where di you get it, if I may ask???
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    15 minutes at the Jeep website on the Commander...I really like the boxy shape (hey, I liked the boxy Volvos of the 60s and 70s)...looks some different from Grand Cherokee, and a few inches longer...if it really has the room in back behind 2nd row of seats (I would lower third row, do not need it, use space to carry 2 dogs, Choc and yellow labs), I would add it to my list of possibles, 2006 Explorer, new model 4Runner and Pathfinder, and the (hopefully) expanded Santa Fe...if those Commander seats feel as comforatble as they look, this could be a neat car...add the Hemi....
  • johndodgejohndodge Posts: 25
    My name is John and I’m a Marketing Representative from the Jeep Information Center. I was wondering if anyone would mind if I were to join in this discussion. I might have some information that you might find useful or help clear up any concerns you have on the Jeep Commander.

    Thanks,

    John B.
  • johndodgejohndodge Posts: 25
    I just want to make myself available for any questions any of you may have. If you have any questions, comments or concerns regarding the 2006 Jeep Commander please feel free to post. I will try my best to provide you aan answer.

    Thanks again,

    John B.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,676
    Give this topic a chance to grow...most folks probably do not know about the Commander yet...once they do, this topic will explode, as it will be compared to the Jeep Grand Cherokee (often abbreviated JGC)...

    As long as you are here, are the seats in the Commander any different than the JGC???...does the vehicle seem larger, and is it???...can you list some of the major and minor differences we should expect between JGC and Comm, or will they be a product of badge engineering, like GMC Yukon and Chevy Tahoe???

    Bob
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    This isn't completely related to the Commander but...

    Does Jeep have any plans to build the Rescue concept, or the Gladiator? Or even a pickup at all?
  • greyhoundgreyhound Posts: 10
    John - a few questions on the Commander:
    From the data I have browsed, the V8 4WD Commander appears to be both heavier and have less capacity (with 2nd and 3rd row seats folded) than a similarly equipped Grand Cherokee:

    Commander JGC
    curb wt 4,783 lb 4,094
    max cap. 68.7 cu ft 70.8

    I can accept the Cmdr as being a little heavier, but 700 lb heavier? Also, didn't expect the Cmdr to have less interior capacity, given its boxy shape. Can the 3rd row of seats be removed to give more room?

    Finally, can you post a photo of a non-Limited model to show what the painted grille vs chrome grill will look like?

    Thanks - good to have an insider checking this thread.
    Greyhound
  • brandibzbrandibz Posts: 1
    Do you know what the 2006 Commanders are going to retail for? I have a 93 Cherokee Country that I absolutely love and have been waiting and waiting for that style to come back. It looks like this might be it. Also, my '93 has a little over 80,000 and in excellent condition - any idea on how much I should ask for it?

    Thanks!

    brandibz in humid MN
  • johndodgejohndodge Posts: 25
    Thanks for the great questions! Marsha7, you will notice a difference in the seats between the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Commander, but they are similar. The Commander utilizes different materials for its seats; the base Commander uses Telluride/Albi cloth, while the Grand Cherokee uses Majesty/Albi cloth. Both use different leathers as well, if you choose to go with this option.. The Commander uses McKinley leather in the base model with U package, and Yuma leather in the Limited trim level. As for the Grand Cherokee, it uses Royale leather. These differences offer a different look to the interiors, for both vehicles.

    The Commander is bigger than the Grand Cherokee, in both height and length. There are plenty of differences between the Commander and the Grand Cherokee, as they are separate vehicles geared towards different needs and wants.

    Navigator89, Jeep hasn’t released any official plans to produce either the Rescue or the Gladiator at this time.

    Greyhound, here are some numbers from the information I have here. The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 with a 5.7L HEMI® engine has a curb weight of 4,745 lbs with 67.4 cu ft of cargo space with the 2nd row seats folded down. While the Jeep Commander 4x4 with a 5.7L HEMI® engine has a curb weight of 5,185 lbs with 68.5 cu ft of cargo space with the 2nd and 3rd row seats folded down. At this time, I am unable to present you with a picture of a body color grill for the Jeep Commander; however it’ll be similar to the Grand Cherokee.

    Sorry brandibz Jeep hasn’t released any pricing information on the Jeep Commander at this time.

    Well I hope I helped answer all of your questions. If you have any more questions, comments, or concerns please feel free to post.

    Thanks again everyone,

    John B.
  • orchardorchard Posts: 2
    John - currently own a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport (one that the Liberty replaced in 2002). How much longer in size/length is the Commander versus the discontinued Cherokee Sport? I keep the car in NYC (Manhattan) and my garage will charge an additional $100 per month if considered "oversized".... the garage company is GMC: http://gmcparkny.citysearch.com/ Do you know the cut-off for oversized SUV's?? If this car is basically the same as the Cherokee Sport I would like to know when it can be ordered + when you can take delivery?? What is the approx cost with the 5.7L engine?
  • jjak11jjak11 Posts: 1
    John,

    Any idea when the Commander is going to be available for sale, and how much it's going to cost?
  • johndodgejohndodge Posts: 25
    Here are the dimensional differences that you requested orchard. Your 2001 Jeep Liberty Sport has an overall length 167.5”, an overall height of 66.8”, and an overall width of 69.4”. The Jeep Commander is 21” longer with an overall length of 188.5”, 5.3” taller with an overall height of 72.1”, and 5.4” wider with an overall width of 74.8”. Now one thing you do have to take into account, the numbers I have for overall width of the Cherokee include mirrors, while the overall width of the Commander excludes mirrors.

    You will have to contact your garage company to find out what they consider to be ‘oversized’.

    Contact your local dealership for an idea of when they can start accepting orders, if they don’t know yet most dealerships would be more that happy to contact you back when they do know. The Jeep Commander is expected to be released in Fall sometime. As I had stated in previous post, Jeep has not released pricing information for the 2006 Jeep Commander at this time. I cannot speculate when we will get more information, but you are more than welcome to stay in contact with us.

    I hope I helped clear things up for you! If you have any more questions, comments or concerns please feel free to post.

    Thanks again,

    John B.
  • cs12175cs12175 Posts: 1
    John,

    Can you elaborate on who is supplying which interior components of the Commander? I'm hoping for pretty detailed listing if possible; ie, door panels, headliners, seats, instrument panel, etc...

    Also, given the Homelink and UConnect being available, you are integrating some JCI technology features into the commander. Any plans for integrating the Rail Port system?
  • rangnerrangner Posts: 336
    John,

    I think your participation in the forum is great!

    I was curious as to whether a diesel engine will be offered in the Commander as it is in the Liberty.

    I think it would be a great idea as it would offer better economy and low end performance than its gas counterparts.

    If a diesel engine was offered in the Commander, with about 200hp and 400lb-ft of torque. I'd be first in line!

    Eric
  • 714cut714cut Posts: 355
    Hi John and thank you for your participation. In some of the pictures on your website it appears that both the 2nd and 3rd row passengers have their legs turned sideways-in other words seem cramped. We are looking for a 7 passenger vehicle and have looked at the Pilot and MDX but the third row seats are virtually unusable for adults. Do you have any competitive info re: 3rd row seating and is this a legitimate 7 passenger vehicle or would that title be more applicable to the Durango?
    Look forward to your response.
  • rangnerrangner Posts: 336
    In reference to my earlier post. I did some searching and the Mercedes E320 CDI sedan has a 3.2 liter in-line six cylinder common rail diesel engine that puts out 201hp and 369 lb-ft of torque. That would be just about right for the Commander. And since it's all part of the same DC family, acuiring the engines should not be a problem.

    Eric
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