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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
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    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,766
    I really wanted one of those for my first car back in the 90s - I knew of one in town, owned by a nice old guy who was talkative about it, but wouldn't sell it - was "saving it" for his adult son who couldn't care less about the car. Then the old guy passed on and the property was emptied out overnight. It was a cool car, 260, red on red, very solid condition - I wonder what became of it.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,842
    It's a Shelby Mustang - year and what particular version, I don't know.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,009
    69 or 70---can't tell from the photo.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,766
    I will guess 1968
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,997
    Wouldn't 1968 or later have side marker lights? Or was Shelby exempt from those somehow?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,397
    edited January 2013
    definitely not '68 taillights.

    And shouldn't it say SHELBY across the back? Something seems really wrong here to me.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
    edited January 2013
    Boy, I didn't think it would be that hard but the green car is a 1967 Shelby (Mustang) GT-350. IMHO it may be the best looking Mustang ever (the "Eleanors" were patterned after it (mostly).

    Here it is from the front>

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    The misaligned (fiberglass) hood was typical, the extra lights in the corners of the grille were not, these were usually twinned in the center of the hood in the '67s.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    edited January 2013
    That is a '67--no side marker lights, but more importantly, it's the '67-68 bodystyle and not the new '69-70.

    Oops, now I see the poster had to identify it!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,397
    huh. OK. I found more pics and they do all look like that. Really thought '67 would have still had the '65-'66 taillights, and I definitely thought it said shelby on the back.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
    Yep, the side marker lights are a good way to tell a '68 from a '67 Shelby Mustang. Another is the placement of the hood scoops and the more rectangular auxiliary lights in place of the round ones in the '67.

    There's a shiny metal surround on the '68 tailights which the '67 doesn't have.

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    Oh, and there were no convertibles in '67 (what a shame).

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,722
    edited January 2013
    but where was it built?

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,766
    It's a Rolls 20/25 (plate helps ;) ), "where was it built" is a fun question. I see it is RHD, I don't know if a Springfield built car would be RHD, and the body is later than Springfield production.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,722
    That picture was taken last September and I didn't look at it very closely, but I thought we had a picture of a Springfield Rolls and that is definitely not it!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,722
    although odd color choice for the brand ;)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,766
    Springfield production ended in 1930, I think. That car is probably 1935-39. But, RRs were often rebodied. It would be cool in a way to have a US built Rolls.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,077
    A friend of mine, who is a collector, once had a US made Rolls..

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
    edited January 2013
    That's the car that comes to mind when I hear the word "Ferrari", it's a late 50s/early 60s 250GT Short Wheelbase Berlinetta.

    Ferraris don't have to be red, Stirling Moss won a race at Goodwood in 1960 driving a dark blue SWB, while listening to the radio.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,582
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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
    That looks like a prewar BMW 327 or 328 Coupe but it could be a postwar replica made by the Eisenach Motoren Werkes (EMW) which was formed by the Communist regime of East Germany. EMW was later merged into the IFA/Sachsenring consortium which made Wartburgs and Trabants among other things.

    The EMW emblem looks like a BMW roundel with red in place of the blue and I believe that's what I spy on the nose of the pictured car..

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,611
    edited January 2013
    G'day

    EMW T327. Not so much a replica as a former BMW in East Germany taking a different path, off the same pre war design. Eisenach in Thuringia ended up in the Eastern Zone after the war and they just restarted off the pre war designs. The factory continued to use the BMW brand for some years and then change to EMW with the blue being replaced with red on the roundel. In guess that this makes the car about 1952 production.

    Someone will remember the connection between EMW and Wartburg. I know they both came from Eisenach but cannot recall whether they were from the same factory.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    huh. OK. I found more pics and they do all look like that. Really thought '67 would have still had the '65-'66 taillights, and I definitely thought it said shelby on the back.

    A '67 Mustang (and thus, Shelby) is a very different car than a '65 or '66.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,582
    yes, a 1953 EMW. Like Graham said, it sounds more like a continuation, since they had the factory sitting there, and just kept making cars behind the curtain. With the red instead of blue on the badge.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
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    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • texasestexases Posts: 5,597
    edited January 2013
    Well, according to the label on the photo it's a Renault 5... ;)
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,582
    based on the plates that is a Euro version, hence the 5.

    Our model was the infamous leCar.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,611
    G'day

    I am not sure about the LeCar but the R5 was ubiquitous in Europe when I was living there. They were remarkably space efficient. Like the R 16, the gearbox was in front of the engine, allowing the spare wheel to be stored above the gearbox. That made for a really spacious cabin for such a small car. However the odd gear linkages meant that the gear shift was sort of spongy, especially when the car was tired.

    That red, usually badly deteriorated, seemed to be the favourite colour. Most that I remember had saggy suspension.

    There were also two turbo derivatives, the R5 Turbo, which was basically a mid engine, rear wheel drive monster to compete with the Lancia Stratos in Rally competition and the later, more sedate, R5 Turbo II which used more of the normal R5 mechanicals. A colleague, a mechanical engineer, had one of the latter. It was thrashed mercilessly and cost so much to maintain that my employer banned them from our fleet! Gee, it was fun! (and terrifying).

    Cheers

    Graham
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,722
    edited January 2013
    The sign in front of the car read 1962, but I don't want to post it because it has the owner's name and city on it, although I know they ok'ed it for the show.

    The only picture I have of a 1960 Sir Stirling Moss race car is this one.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,631
    Nice, that's a Maserati Tipo 61, better known by its "Birdcage" nickname (from the complex structure that lay under that swoopy bodywork.).

    Maserati 's sports racing cars especially the 250S and the Tipo61 were the mounts of many famous racers in the 50s and early 60s.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,722
    edited January 2013
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