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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    Now those fins make sense. Simca Vedette? Or Ariane?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    Looks like about a 1923 Buick. There were several Moxie cars - here's a Rolls:

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  • magnettemagnette London UKPosts: 1,952
    Now you are there - this is a Simca Marly which is the estate version of the Simca Versailles - the car was introduced as a (French) Ford Vedette Versailles, to replace the old Vedette in 1954 and then Simca took over the factory and the Versailles was rebadged. I think there was an estate launched just before the merger, but it only reached production as a Simca. The estate is called a Marly, and the only proper pictures I have seen of those (brochures etc) show a coloured panel on the roof which is slightly different from this one, but it might have been resprayed anyway.

    I don't think there was an estate version of the later lower powered Ariane.

    They lost the Versailles name and became Vedette Marlys, I think , and there are trim changes from about the end of 57 so I think this is one of the earlier versions.

    Although they were listed for sale here in the late 50s, I have never seen a Simca Vedette in Britain, and only a couple in France - certainly I've never seen an estate.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,609
    edited July 2013
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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,704
    Those are new 1970 Chevy Vegas being loaded for vertical shipment via rail to unsuspecting buyers who think they'll be buying the most technically advanced small car of the era. :P

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,669
    they weren't tilted for shipping. They were tilted to shake out all the loose nuts and bolts. :P

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,609
    edited July 2013
    Yep, Vert-A-Pacs. (Wiki).

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    Those are '71's.

    Long-term durability of early ones was bad, but most people forget that they were absolutely, positively the darlings of the motoring press the first few years they were out...almost always edging out anything they were tested against.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    And to be fair, are pretty good looking.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,254
    So is the guy looking out the window for an oil pool or to see if a fender already rusted off!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,669
    Well the competition in 1971 wasn't very good at the Vega price level. I'm sure it ran pretty good against a circa 1948-era VW bug, the awesome Ford Pinto, or the staggering remains of the British auto empire.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,704
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  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    No, he's holding the door on because there was a slight rain and the hinges rusted through! :P
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    Just about anything was superior to anything built by British Leyland. Heck, Soviet-bloc cars were like Lexuses compared to B-L.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    86-89 Acura Integra 3-door - still a few of these roaming around my area.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,254
    I had a friend who was bought one of these early Vega's. It was that bad! I think Ed Cole was involved in that engine and design which is kind of sad because he accomplished so many great engineering feats during his career including the 265 V8 for the 55 Chevy. If it hadn't had all of those problems, the Vega would actually have been ahead of a lot of it's competitors in that segment. Unfortunately, just like the original Corvair, GM tried to tack too many advancements in a vehicle that then had to be cost cut to a price point. Not a successful formula. I always wonder if GM had made it an Oldsmobile with a fatter price tag to accommodate what needed to be done right, whether it might have been a different story. But then back in those days Olds was about 88's and Cutlass I suppose.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    I know how bad the Vega was. My Grandmom had a mustard-colored 1973 Vega. Funny, we were just talking about what a rotten car it was last Sunday!
  • berriberri Posts: 4,254
    Detroit's move into subcompacts was kind of interesting. IIRC, GM had a bit more success selling Opel at Buick dealers and Vauxhall at Pontiac dealers in the latter 50's than did the British Ford's, at least in the Chicago area market. It seemed to me that GM's early efforts at a domestic entry like Corvair and Vega had a little more European influence in their design than Ford. Ford talked Europe, but seemed in reality to just plunk a German or British Ford engine into a total US design like Pinto back then. Plymouth simply brought over the Cricket from England. Then they all seemed to look to Asian, or a few European models shipped over here with a US moniker slapped on the hood. Today a lot of US models are becoming rather global. Ford has a big lead in that, but GM is using Opel a lot and Fiat appears to becoming a Mopar influence. Many writers talk about Opel and the LaCrosse. However, I think the GM model that in actuality reflects it best is the lambda triplets. Smooth, quiet and comfortable on the highway, but decent handling vehicles on curvy and hilly roads as well despite their heft.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,704
    What's the newest car? and the oldest?

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,609
    edited July 2013
    That looks like the 200 block of State Street in Madison, very close to the Capitol, which would be behind the photographer. The street seems a bit too wide though, but surely that's the Orpheum Theatre on the right. Guess they've put in some traffic calming amenities.

    There was a jeweler in the 300 block who has since moved a few miles away, but that's where my wife and I picked out her wedding ring 29 years ago tomorrow. :shades:

    I'll guess '67 for the VW Bug four blocks down.

    It that some sort of early Cushman metermaid Truckster on the right against the curb?

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  • omarmanomarman Posts: 721
    That '57 Ford reminds me of this emotorcon...
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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 481
    1952 Hudson
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 481
    Tammy Tell Me True (1961).
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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    I think whatever is behind the Beetle about 3/4 of the way up and on the left is the oldest. Maybe a late 40s Chevy or Buick.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,393
    i think the '61 Chevy in the oncoming lane (behind the '57 Ford and '58 Chevy) is the newest car, and probably dates the photo.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    What's the car just to the top right of the head of the man in the foreground?

    I also see what looks like a 61 Ford wagon just behind the same man.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Ct.Posts: 481
    1961 Buick Special
  • wgraferwgrafer Posts: 592
    "It that some sort of early Cushman metermaid Truckster on the right against the curb? "

    Looks like the typical early 60s Harley Davidson police 3-wheeler. I remember Hackensack NJ had a fleet of these when I was a kid.

    I also see several '61s, including the white Pontiac in the next block.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    In mag reviews, it outperformed Japanese stuff.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,609
    That would explain the lack of a cab, although some early Cushmans were cabless. The Harleys weren't "typical" when I was growing up, but my "city" was just 12,000 back then. Mostly I remember cops walking the downtown and checking the doorknobs, although we did have parking meters.

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