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Toyota Avalon vs Chysler 300/300C



  • deaniedeanie Posts: 172
    Hi Leinad:
    You're right about the 300 - it'll prove to be as reliable as a mercedes, and that's a bad thing. My opinion: Stay away from the Highlander/hybrid if you're considering an Avalon. Why? Avalon's braking and handling are far superior to the highlander's, which makes it a much safer car, and safety far outweighs the money you'll save due to the slightly better mileage the hybrid will bring. In addition to better handling/braking, Avalon's also got a smoother, more comfortable ride.

    Unless you're living in the snowbelt, the all wheel drive will not offset the Avalon's handling/braking advantage. Just make sure that whichever car you buy, get VSC - best safety feature since seatbelts.

    I drove the Avalon & Highlander and bought the Avalon. The Highlander is no larger than the Camry on which it's based, whereas the Avalon is based on a stretched and widened version of the Camry. For comparison, I believe the passenger areas for the highlander and accord are about the same. Plus, the 280hp Avalon is still faster and will be a lot more fun to drive than the expected 267hp of the highlander hybrid.

    Let's not forget price. Avalon prices are coming down now (slowly). I bought my XLS w/VSC & JBL stereo for $657 over invoice. By the time the Highlander hybrid comes out, Avalons will routinely be purchased for $400-$1000 over invoice, whereas Hybrids will go for near MSRP and be in shorter supply than Avalons were, and for a longer period of time. Hope I've helped.
  • hey again! this is LEINAD922...thanks so much for the info and input, I feel much relieved to know that premium is not a MUST for the avalon...then, that really settles all my indecisions about which vehicle I want! Its the avalon or bust!

    It really helps to get ya'lls opinions (yes, I am from the South) and I appreciate it very much!

    I have had a highlander before and my sister went out and got the same exact highlander, even same color, so that kinda put a damper on getting another highlander for me! Such a copycat she is...

    I am willing to try new and different things.

    Thanks again!
  • jahvanejahvane Posts: 3
    For a while there I was 100% for the 300, I went back to the dealership to look at the 300 again, all of a sudden it hit me, the interior looks like cheap plastic ?? On the way back home confused, I stopped by and drove the Avalon...WOW nice ride. Now I'm on the fence 300 or Avalon ? My biggest fear is going with a Chrysler knowing the rep of toyota. Any help would greatly be appreciated.

    300 Limited or Avalon XLS
  • ccriderccrider Posts: 26
    Hey jahvane, I was considering the 300 with the Avalon as well as a Maxima. I haven't bought one yet, but I'll be getting an Avalon. At this point I'm trying to decide on the XLS or the Touring. What knocked the 300 out for me was the reliability issues, the resale value, and the exterior colors available. There just wasn't a color that I liked very much. The Avalon, on the other hand, has great reliablity history, good resale value, and the Phantom Gray exterior. All things being equal concerning price, I think the Avalon is the superior choice.
  • jahvanejahvane Posts: 3
    I'll be making my decision here within the next 2 weeks, after many long nights of research and emailing friends who are pretty car savey, all points to the Avalon. I agree with reliability and resale. I still love that 300 look !!

    decisions decisions....
  • donb1donb1 Posts: 47
    After more evaluations of the Avalon, the 300, the Pacifica and Acura TL, all of which were very strong in some areas> finally came down for the Avalon. I was trying to get a Limited but the waiting list here in Ohio is 2 months plus so I am getting an XLS. Toyota screwed up big on the manufacturing priorities by assuming the Limited would be a lower demand vehicle than the XLS. I will be almost as happy with the XLS as with the Limited.
  • jickajicka Posts: 38
    The Avalon Owners Manual indicates that 87 Octane regular gasoline is listed first. If you want more performance (Like drag racing or such) Toyota recommends premium. Then again, I'm in the "geezer" category and I rarely challenge other drivers when the light turns green.
  • jahvanejahvane Posts: 3
    I got the Avalon Limited and happy with it. I had the same issue as stated earlier in finding the limited with all the toys. I finally found 1 that is white w/grey interior.
    I'm glad I decided to go with Toyota. Thanks to all that have posted to this site as it did help me in choosing. If there is any doubt between the 300 and Avalon.....go Avalon !!
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    Car and Driver did a six way comparison test featuring the Kia Amanti, Buick Lacrosse, Ford Five Hundred, Nissan Maxima, Chrysler 300 and Toyota Avalon.

    In the end, the 300 took second and the Avalon took first. C&D tested a 300 Touring, and Avalon Touring.
  • kevm14kevm14 Posts: 423
    That Avalon was surprisingly quick, a good handler, and had by far the best mileage of the group. Toyota has really turned that car around.
  • parks1parks1 Posts: 5
    As a point of information, according to Toyota, the 2005 Avalon does just fine on
    regular gas. The engine may suffer a loss of about 10 hp. The electronics adjusts
    for the lower octane so there is no ping. I can tell you from first hand experience
    you will not miss the 10 hp. This car has plenty of power.
  • I think I'm pretty qualified to address this topic. In May of '05 I bought a 2005 300C Hemi. Trust me it's the real thing. I live in up state Michigan and thought I was going to have to trade it in, because it was so bad in the snow. Not once you got going but terrible off the start. Nokian Hokkapolita tires fixed that. It was a real eye catcher, especially after I had the windows tinted and put a stainless wire mesh Bentley grill on it. It handled well, and was very nice inside. Two weeks ago I traded it in on a 2005 Avalon XLS after much research! REASON?!?!? Gas mileage. I'm a believer gas could still go to $3 a gallon and I need the mileage which will equate to 150 to 200 miles PER tank full! Went on a 500 mile trip this past weekend and got 26.5 combined and 32 on the freeway. The Avalon is already doing it's job. It is a poor man's Lexus. Extremely nice inside and the JBL sound system is even better than the Boston Aucustics I had in the Hemi. The trunk is fractionally smaller but lays out better. The sunroof in the Avalon is smaller, and the rear seats don't fold down, but do recline 10 degrees. It is bullet proof construction and 280 h.p while not a Hemi still has some pull! A bit more of an old man's drive, but will be more affordable to drive for sure. You can't go wrong with either car, it will just depend on what is important to you! Brawn vs. brains. Enjoy the ride, they're both awesome.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    Great post. These two came high on our list, too. Went with the 300C. Enjoy the XLS. Front drive makes more sense for Michigan. Here in South Carolina, we don't worry about snow or ice much. However, I do drive to western PA around Christmas time. That causes me some concern with the Continentals on the C. My Intrepid has been good in snow with regular M+S tires. Of course, western PA is not upstate Michigan, either. I see you had snow even in May of this year. Yikes!!! You sure didn't keep the 300 C long.
  • steve290steve290 Posts: 25
    I am considering a Avalon LTD or a 300C AWD. I live in Boston and cannot have a RWD vehicle because of snow thus am interested in AWD. I drive 40,000 miles a year, almost all highway and am concerned about gas mileage for the 300C. My question is, what was your highway mileage with the 300C? Does the cylinder shutdown work to significantly improve mileage? The Avalon appears to be an excellent car in every way, but its looks do nothing for me. Although it is a big car, it appears small? Am I crazy? I love the 300C, but can expect more mechanical problems than with the Toyota. The 300C highway mileage will sway my decision. The 300C also requires mid-range, about $.10 a gallon more in MA and I would expect the AWD to get worse mileage than the RWD version. Does anyone know the difference?
  • My 300c with the de activation got about 21 to 23 on the highway. The Avalon is getting as high as 33mpg. The AWD Hemi is even worse (I did not have AWD) as it adds weight to the car. The Avalon will get 10mpg more than an AWD Hemi. I have been running my Avalon on regular, not mid or premium and it has been just fine. Gas just went to 279.9 her in Petoskey Michigan and it's definitely going to $3.00 or even higher. I think if I have done the math correctly, if you go 40K a year you'll get about 180 miles per tank full more with the Avalon. That will equate to about 6 gallons of gas at $3 will be $18 per tank full. Over the year you'll save a bundle on gas. The Avalon will also be more reliable for sure. The Avalon is spacious and lays out better than the Hemi did. The trunk is fractionally smaller but configured better. The back seat is larger and the seats recline. BUT it's not a Hemi with 390 ft of torque. If you want to cover those 40,000 miles quickly but expensively, buy the Chrylser. If you want to do it affordably and in utter class with reliability, get the Avalon. The ONLY reason I bought the Toyota was for better mileage. It is a heck of a car. The Avalon is growing on me, as well as my kids. The stereo is better, and I thought the Boston Aucustics was the end all. either way, you'll be happy I assure you. Enjoy the ride!
  • yxuyxu Posts: 3
    Which one is quieter, more comfortable and fun to drive? I average less than 10K and mostly local cummute to work. MPG is not that important to me.

    I'm in Philadelphia area. How the RWD handles 6-8 inch snow?

  • in2locksin2locks Posts: 13
    Brian where did you get the tires and what size did you get?
  • The tires are Nokian Hakkapolita (SP) because they are 18 inches they actually call them for an SUV They are All-Season radials 235/55/18 Very good in 8 inches of snow. The Continentals weren't good in a half inch!!!

    The Hemi is quicker, largely due to 390 lb ft of torque. Some places have said the Hemi can do 5.3 0-60 Most people claim around 6 flat. The Avalon was clocked at 6 flat to about 6.6. The Hemi is quicker any way I slice it. If your looking for pure "fun", get the Hemi. But if you don't mind being a couple of clicks slower and still get great mileage, the Avalon.

    Enjoy the ride!
  • abeabe Posts: 19
    im not a big fan of the 300c. ive owned one for over a year. but, if you can stay at 55-60mph, you can get upper 20s low 30s mpg. ive been able to get almost 600 miles on a full tank of gas
  • gdp1gdp1 Posts: 1
    The 2006 Avalon Limited is being offered to fleets to combat the Chrysler 300 Touring AWD model being offered by them. This must be the reason for the delivery delay to dealers. Personally, I am trying to decide between the two, but leaning towards the Avalon. I have concern with the rear visibility on the 300 and the lower gas mileage, but I do like the look. Can someone comment on the visibility issue? Also, do you think the Avalon with stability control will handle nearly as well as the AWD 300 in the snow?
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