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Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread

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  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    You need to ban the V from your alphabet when talking about 4 cylinder engines. It is either an in line 4 "I4" or a "V6". Go into a dealer asking for a V4 and they might consider you an easy mark when it comes bargaining time!

    That being said, drive each and see which you prefer. There are a lot of other good competitors out there as well such as Mazda6, Nissan Altima, Ford Fusion, etc, all have 4 cylinder versions, if you are willing to expand your horizons beyond the two you seem to have narrowed it down to.

    $19500 sounds like a lot of money considering there are a lot of good competitors that will run you closer to $15-$17K for a basic four cylinder automatic sedan in this segment.
  • The Hyundai Sonata wins in my book. It has all of the safety features standard of the Accord/Camry and more. It scored better in safety than both Cam/Accord. It is also significantly less expensive and looks much better(imo). Another plus is that they are more rare to see than the Cam/cords. You could be the different/original/special one on the road(take that with any connotation).

    Final note, Camry/Accord are up for a restyling in 2007. Sonata was brand new for 2005 as a 2006 model. Do you want a new vehicle that looks old or would you like a new vehicle that also looks new?

    Hyundai's quality has drastically improved so it wouldn't be a bad choice. I own a '05 Elantra and love driving this vehicle. Handling could be better, but it has been very reliable 30,000 miles, gets great gas mileage, and is still running like new.

    I'm a new Hyundai homer, but that's because I used to own Hondas and discovered that Hyundai offers more for the money. If you can get past all of the class/status issues, the Sonata may be a good choice.

    Peace
  • w9cww9cw Posts: 888
    I'm not piling on the guy for making a mistake, just adding to the educational level of the forum. When I think of the few V4's in the past, the one that comes to mind first is the Ford Taunus V4 used in the German Ford Taunus and the SAAB 96 series sedan, and the later SAAB Sonnets. The earlier SAAB 93 was available with either an Inline 3-cylider 2-stroke, or the V4 near the end of the production run of the 93. V4's are few and far between. The Subaru is a Flat, Boxer, or Horizontally-Opposed 4. In reality, the first Subaru horizontally-opposed 4 was simply a water-cooled version of the VW air-cooled horizontally-opposed 4. Subaru did what most Japanese companies did during that initial time-frame - they simply copied a design, but improved upon it.
  • ctalkctalk Posts: 646
    It scored better in safety than both Cam/Accord.
    Do you mean crash safety?

    If so, it seems IIHS rates the Camry (w/optional SAB) and Accord better.
    link title
    I wonder how the new Camry will do in the tests. Will it get the same scores as the new IS? The IS recieved a silver rating.


    Camry/Accord are up for a restyling in 2007.

    I believe he was looking at the 2007 Camry. The Accord is up for a refresh in 2008.
  • I agree. I had a Mazda 6. I ditched it ang got an 06 Altima. Very impressed with the power for a 4cyl. Accords dont have the power and the Camry is over priced. Go with the Altima. Now, the Maxima is also a godd my, but it is heavier than the Altima.
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    i am not much into v6.

    The Sonata can be had with an excellent, jet-smooth V6 for less money than the Camry/Accord 4 cyl.

    You owe it to yourself to drive one.
  • jhinscjhinsc Posts: 399
    The only problem with the Altima 4-cyl, is it's mpg. Some of the Nissan V6 models get just about the same mpg. And the Camry, Accord, and Sonata 4-cyl's get much better mpg's. Adding a 5-speed auto would help the Altima get better mileage. :)
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    Drive one, but not buy one?

    Millions of people aren't convinced a Hyundai Sonata is as reliable as a CamCord. So they gotta be priced lower.
  • 94hawkskin94hawkskin Posts: 116
    Actually alot of people are starting to change their perception of the Hyundai Sonata. It won't take as long as most people think.

    I test drove the Accord, Camry and the Sonata. Here are my rankings.

    1) Accord
    2) Sonata
    3) Camry

    While the Accord was the best, it was the best for the money. I thought the Sonata was almost as good as the Accord but for about 5K less. That was way too much of a difference to make up. And after 5,000 miles I have no regrets.
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    But you do have the 100,000 mile warranty.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I have a hard time with "the accords don't have the power".

    You do realize, that the Accord is quicker than the Altima, in both passing and 0-60, right? With the combination of the 5-speed auto and about 10 horsepower (before SAE standards were reset), the Accord zooms past Altima. Actually, the 2003 Accord was quicker than the 2003 Altima, back when the horsepower difference was as high as 15. (Motor Trend, 2003)

    The Camry is slower than either of these cars.
  • 94hawkskin94hawkskin Posts: 116
    I mean't to say that the Accord wasn't the best for the money they wanted. If price is not a factor, then get the Accord. If it is a factor, then you will have a hard time finding a better car for the price of a Sonata.
  • There are so many caveats,exclusions, prorations and deductibles in warranties.

    I'd rather drive a proven reliable car than rely on a warranty promise to convince me to buy a car with an iffy track record.

    Time will tell if the Sonata delivers like a CamCord.
  • dd123dd123 Posts: 52
    I think Sonata's gas mileage is little bit low than accord and camry.

    Anyway thanks a lot for the replies
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,748
    Look at the numbers and you will see that the Accord, Camry, and Sonata are all very close on fuel economy.
  • lweisslweiss Posts: 342
    I saw the Hyundai Azera at an auto show in January and now I am seeing them in parking lots- and if you are looking at a high end Accord or Camry, you should look at the Azera- amazingly well equipped for about $28K- ohmygosh, the Koreans are out to knock Honda, Toyota, Nissan (and yes, Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti) for a loop. With the Sonata at the lower end and the Azera at the higher end, they could be getting it from both angles. Plus the comforting $100K Hyundai warranty- and... you get the idea.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    Wow, if that Hyundai warranty costs $100K, I can now see where Hyundai is making their money! :D

    (I know you didn't mean to put the dollar sign there--just kidding)
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    So wait, you drove the '07 Camry, decided against it, and have already put 5000 miles on your new vehicle? Impressive since the Camry debuted this Monday...

    ~alpha
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    In addition, the price differential between Camcord and Korean or American cars can pay for a lot of repairs or an extended warranty.
  • 94hawkskin94hawkskin Posts: 116
    I have not seen or test driven the 07 Camry. When I bought my vehicle at the beginning of December I test drove an 06 Camry LE with no other options. I thought it was the worst of the three cars. But now that the 07 model is going to be out that might change. Although it will probably be a while before they sell at close to invoice.
  • Yea but its still a Hyundai. That's the idea I get. Not gonna put $28K into one.
  • "it's still a hyundai" LOL

    that's so 10 years ago.

    wake up, young man!
  • let's see.

    azera has 260+ hp, looks great in and out, it's huge, and it's still 5k-6k cheaper than avalon. 28k for that car is an awesome deal. i test drove it, and it is a great car.

    it's not like azera is 40k. it's freakin 28k. hell go to ebay now, a dealer is selling the brand new for 26k.



    anyway, you are 5 years too late for saying 'it's still a hyundai'
  • toyota and honda will be forced to lower their price sooner or later.

    hyundai will sell 170k-200k sonatas this year. and numbers will increase every year by 10-15%.
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Drive one, but not buy one?

    Just do yourself a favor and drive them all before choosing. That's what I did, and I've never looked back.

    Sonata salesmen have the easiest job in the world. All they have to do is introduce themselves and jingle the keys. :D
  • bobadbobad Posts: 1,587
    Yea but its still a Hyundai. That's the idea I get. Not gonna put $28K into one.

    The name game won't get you anything for your money. If you open your eyes, you can see that Hyundai's quality and customer satisfaction is growing exponentially. It's very clear what Hyundai is doing. They's invested billions to make a quality product that will beat Camry and Accord at their own game, and they are determined to do whatever it takes to win.

    I think they've all but accomplished their goal in 1 bold stroke. The most astute buyers already know it. Everyone will know it in a year or so.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Hyundai put it best themselves:

    "A Hyundai like you've never seen before"

    They are building excellent and quality cars these days...can't go wrong with the values you'd get!!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    It was a silver LE 4-cylinder model. I have to say, it looks better in person than in the pictures. It was being test driven, and I could notice that both passenger-side hubcaps were not riding even (like they were bucked-out or loose from the steel wheel. I'm kind of surprised, b/c I haven't had this problem on my 10 year old car! Hopefully its a one-time occurrance that won't happen to many models.

    All-in-all, it's better than I thought, but in silver, LE guise, it was a real yawn.
  • zed421vzed421v Posts: 28
    I have a 2003 Camry SE. In cold weather my steering column makes some strange noises. My dash board creaks and groins. My rear suspension bounces over every bump. My wife just bought a Hyundai Azera. I love her car. No rattles or squeaks. I'm 6'4" and it is one comfortable car. I think Hyundai is becoming what Toyota once was, one great car.
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    toyota and honda will be forced to lower their price sooner or later

    I agree. Hyundai is forcing their hand with their pricing. I doubt Honda and Toyota are gonna do nothing about it. They have their strong reputations going for them, so lowering prices will be a win for them.

    Hyundai can't command the same prices for their cars that Honda and Toyota can - yet. Maybe someday. They're still being handicapped.

    Reminds me of BMW a few years back. Acura and Infiniti took a run at them and BMW lowered their prices. Now BMW sells more car today than they did then. Lower margins but bigger revenues.
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