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Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread



  • It looks just fine. Few automobiles are truly ugly anymore today.
    As a matter of fact, it'd be hard for me to name any truly ugly cars anymore there are fewer and fewer of them these days.

    That said, here are three interiors that I do not care for:

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    And this--
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    And this:
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    All three look terrible--although the top one is a little old. The updated version it really carries now is still bad.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    The Camry interior is not terrible. The Ridgeline is a truck, and not supposed to be pretty. But there is no excuse for the Malibu, except cost cutting.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    So your replacing "ugly" with "terrible"?? Good one.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    By the way- the bottom two are of trucks for those that don't recognize them
  • The last thing Honda is doing is mimicing VW interiors. Also you're not gonna see anything like the Civic interior in the new Accord. What kind of nonsense is that?

    Yea - I love the two-tone interior color scheme. Looks as good in the GM as it does in the Infinitis. Honda should adopt it. Its beautiful.

    Add that color palette to typical aircraft quality fit and finish Honda interiors and they'll pull in even more buyers.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    By the way- the bottom two are of trucks for those that don't recognize them

    Oh, I just assumed it was a Camry (it's a Tundra interior). Not bad, but kind of delicate looking for a truck interior.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    I just think that two tone interior in the Chevy is too trendy and will become outdated very quickly. I also don't like that shade of brown--again personal preference.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Two tone on the dash is ok by me, but not on the seats. It's just too much IMO. Not crazy about that shade of brown either. A little lighter brown maybe. Others seem to like it though.
  • I have no clue why you find that offensive.
    Volkswagen/Audi is the benchmark for industry interiors.

    That's just the way it is.
    Does that make you feel inferior in any way?
    I sense you're bristling at this and I have no reason why.

    If one's self-worth is wrapped-up in the brand of car that one buy so much so, admitting that they take cues from another brand's cars makes one feel inferior, then one has very serious problems one should have addressed.

    That is simply the way the industry works, There's nothing else to it really.
    Some manufacturers are better than others at various things.
    Some are more consistent than others.
    The perfect car will never be made. :)
    So manufacturers benchmark one another at all levels. All of them do--every last one.

    Anyways, Honda is moving toward a less plebeian design language in the future--both inside and out, and Acura is leading the way for them so-to-speak. The Civic won't be out on a limb alone after this redesign.:

    Here is the Honda Accord Coupe Concept sketch from a while back--
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    It should show up at NAIAS 2007.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    honda prefers to take push their design envelope on the entry level models. an exception is the new MDX. lets see how that one works out.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    That sketch looks a lot like the G-35 coupe my wife will be turning in in the next few days (end of lease). She just got a new Honda CR-V (lease)today.

    And people used to complain that the '06 Sonata copied the Accord tail lights! LOL.
  • mfletou1mfletou1 Posts: 508
    A lot of people are basing their feelings about the Camry on the last generation. Its worth repeating: I'm an 07 Camry owner who would NOT have purchased a pre-07 Camry.

    I don't mean to offend anybody that did, but I dislike the styling of those cars (too bland) and I really hated the interior.

    THIS is the Camry that I like (and it happens to be the same trim and color (Barcelona Red) as mine:



    And since we are arguing about price, if you want a Camry V6, which is the fastest car in the midsize class, then its yours for $22,700, or $100 over invoice. If you want to go basic, you can get into a Camry for $18700 at the same dealer.

    Lets not pretend every Camry costs thousands more than every Fusion. If you want a Sonata Limited you're looking at $22+ right now as well. 2&loc=FTO&mall=CH&year=2007&mk_code=TO is the place for real prices if you want GM, Toyota, Hyundai, Chrysler products, Subaru, Mitsu, etc.
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Volkswagen/Audi is the benchmark for industry interiors.

    I think that's referring to Audi interior's superior fit and finish and not necessary meant that they have a better interior design.

    Personally I'll take Accord, Camry and Mazda6's interior over Passat's and IS350/250, TL, G35's interior over A4's.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    That sketch looks a lot like the G-35 coupe

    I think it looks very similar to the 06 TL rear. I find it hard to believe the license plate will be that low. It's only a sketch.
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  • Until i get a "It IS the new accord coupe" from the boss of honda,I will look at it as being the new Acura CL. For the CL, its a more natural evo/revo-lution.



    or even as the new prelude. It seems to be a transition for it also. It is just TOO sporty/good looking to be an accord. This picture puts me at un- accord.


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  • rhduke00rhduke00 Posts: 129
    Have any of you guys seen it?
    Have any of you checked it out?

    Test drove an XR two weeks ago. The one I test drove had a leather trimmed interior but not the Morocco Brown version. I did sit in one with the Morocco Brown leather and thought it way over the top. Anyway my impressions of the Aura XR are:

    Interior is nice (except the Morocco Brown).

    Exteriors of the 2007 Camry, 2007 Altima, 2006/7 Sonata, Accord, and Passat are more appealing.

    Power trains of the Camry V6, Altima V6, and Sonata V6 (I have not test driven an Accord V6) feel more responsive than the XRs 3.6L with the six speed automatic.

    The sticker price (which included some dealer BS add-ons) of the Aura that I test drove was over $27,000. Since it's a Saturn it's a no haggle price. For that much money, I'd rather have an Azera Limited with the Ultimate package, or Camry XLE V6.
  • w9cww9cw Posts: 888
    mfletou1 wrote: "If you want a Sonata Limited you're looking at $22+ right now as well."

    The $22K+ figure you quoted is not correct, at least at my Hyundai dealer it is not. I have a firm quote from them and it is as follows: $19,091, not including TTL here in Illinois. The total delivered price, including TTL, for a 2007 Sonata Limited is $20,574, a far cry from $22K+.

    Fitzmall is not even close to being price competitive with Pugi Hyundai/Mazda/VW.
  • Well, "good design" is subjective. to a large degree--without doubt.

    Build quality and "feel" (which is the issue here) are less so the further away you get from "perfection".
    So anybody making even a half-decent effort would benchmark.
    That's the only way you know if your own efforts really mean anything at all.

    If you're going to do that, then VW/Audi is usually your "standard"--just as how BMW often ends-up as the benchmark for handling (something that can also be subjective at the limit).
  • skibry1skibry1 Posts: 174
    I was excited...for awhile...about another famsedan with
    a clutch...alas I was wrong...Merry Christmas All
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    Where are you getting info that Acura is resurrecting the CL?
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