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Ford Escape Hybrid Prices Paid and Buying Experiences

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  • jeff_hjeff_h Posts: 20
    Leslie,

    I took the test drive at the dealer in Fredericksburg VA and that's where I was told that the sticker price is THE price, and when I asked him where our chosen vehicle was located (we told him what we wanted and he went and did a search and printed out one that fit) and he said "oh I don't know I didn't look that far", so I went home and DID look that far (turns out that vehicle was one of two matches just 20 miles up the road in Woodbridge VA and that dealer actually had 25 FEHs on the lot and likely still has quite a large selection), and looked much farther as well. For my particular search, there were specific colors/options that my wife definitely DID and DID NOT want, so I did the search and (for my criteria)there were matches at:

    - Cowles Ford, Woodbridge VA: Told me $1,000 off MSRP, I then wrote back that I was already in the process of going with someone else, he then came back and said make me an offer, but it was too late... guy seemed OK and I was satisfied that he actually came back with a number (or amount off of sticker, in this case) I could work with; I would have gone with him if it weren't for the dealer to which I'd already given the OK. And it's pretty central to anyone in Northern VA so if you just want something close maybe this will work for you.

    - Koons Ford, Falls Church VA: Had 2 different guys from this same dealership respond on both my email and cell phone, and neither gave a "price" for a price quote, just rang my cell phone off the hook with the "come on down let's make a great deal". I was frustrated that I when I asked for a PRICE QUOTE that all I got was a SALES PITCH and I wrote back to the more persistent one and told him so... so then he comes back with a price quote of $18,995 on an FEH with an MSRP of $31,205.. so unless he was trying to be "worst profit margin salesman ever" I believe this would have turned out to be a bait and switch deal just to get me in the door and then tell me that oh sorry that price was for a stripped Non-hybrid Escape but they wanted to give me the absolute lowest price on the planet etc etc, neither of which I was interested in. So based on this experience I don't think I would deal with these guys, but that's just me personally and there are probably others who think they're great but I definitely didn't have the warm and fuzzy about them.

    - Sheehy Ford, Gaithersburg MD: No written reply, but several phone calls from that area code so it must have been them, but I wasn't answering the phone because I requested E-MAILS... and BTW through my searching and requesting of price quotes I didn't talk to ANYONE on the phone until after I agreed upon the deal and then worked with the dealer I went with a couple times on the phone, but it was still mostly all email back and forth. The reason for this was that I noted on my PRICE QUOTE request that my preference was E-MAIL REPLY and that's what I meant, so for those that couldn't understand the concept of the customer's preference of an E-MAIL REPLY over several phone calls, well I didn't care to deal with them because they either didn't understand that I preferred email or didn't care.

    - Apple Ford, Columbia MD: They responded within 30 minutes with a WRITTEN PRICE QUOTE on my specific VIN, and the price quote was $300 over invoice (which equated to $1,700 under MSRP) and I certainly have no qualms about the salesman making a few bucks and the dealer making the holdback of a few more bucks, so this was fine with me... we did the deal with no hassle and picked up the car and everything was great. I HIGHLY recommend them and you can send an email or price quote request to them through the fordvehicles.com website or directly to them at www.appleford.com. They were very professional and didn't try to rip me off or add unnecessary aftermarket stuff at all, just the standard offering of the extended warranty once you hit the finance guy and I've always been offered that no matter where I've bought my cars. I was just happy that as soon as I was sold on how GREAT the paint job and rustproofing and interior was on the vehicle, that they didn't then switch modes and tell me how NOT SO GREAT that all these were and hey now you gotta buy the undercoating and paint sealant and scotchgard and anything else... I've been through that extra 30 minute sales pitch before when buying other cars, thankfully didn't get it here.

    - Lastly, some other Ford dealer in Tysons or Fairfax, I forget which one, but this pitch was "we will NOT be undersold by ANYONE, yada yada yada", which to me means "go do your best search out there and then see us and we'll screw the other dealer by undercutting him by 50 bucks"... to this I replied that sorry I went with another dealer that gave me what I wanted, which was an actual number for a price quote, and didn't hear back from them.

    I know there are those that aren't sure what vehicle and options they want, and are OK with taking whatever is on the dealer's lot because they want something NOW, and for them there's plenty of cars on lots and that's fine, happy trails to them. However I (and my wife) on the other hand want just the right vehicle because to us this is what we will be getting into and driving every day for the next several years, so to us it's worth the effort to search around. I've had my current car (not the Hybrid, that's my wife's car, but she logs plenty of miles too) for 14 months and this week the odometer will turn 38,000 miles so I want to get just the right combo as I have to live with it (some might say live IN it) every single day for plenty of miles, so getting just the right stuff is important to us.

    So again I suggest using the fordvehicles.com website to see what's out there, it's handy and a GREAT search tool. And then use the price quote request tool to keep the ball in your court, as once you walk in the door of a dealer, they are definitely the home team. However if you have the price already worked out before you walk in the door or even talk on the phone, it takes away the hassle and uncertainty.

    Good luck with your purchase, let us all know how it goes!

    Jeff
  • jeff h - thanks for useful tips. i'd been looking at the escape hybrid for a while and finally made the decision to buy. as luck would have it, just as i was contacting dealers this week, ford matched the gm price cuts by announcing the "simple plan" pricing (which is x-plan+$100). importantly, ford included the feh in the simple plan program. i bought the awd version fully loaded. i contacted about fifteen dealerships in the bay area and central valley by email and got a number of quotes. once the simple plan hit, the quotes were very uniform. but one dealer undercut them by almost $1000. i went to the dealer who had the exact car i wanted and that dealer matched the lower offer (which was under the supposedly non-negotiable simple plan price). so i'm pleased to get the car i wanted and at a price well below the msrp from a few weeks ago and even under the simple plan price. it seems that this is the time of year the dealerships have a sales trough so they seemed willing to deal a little more to move the merchandise. again, thanks for the tips.
  • mcdgimcdgi Posts: 1
    First dealer I went to had a 2006 with 4WD, sunroof and Nav system, price was $36K firm. No come down off of MSRP. Then went to Autoway, they had a left over new 2005 on the website with nav system and 2WD for $28K, according to website. Went to go buy it, but on arrival at dealer was told interent price was wrong, car was really $30K. Started to leave, sales manager said they could get me a 2006 similarly equipped for $29K. I said fine, they ran a listing, I picked out the one I wanted, they said they could have it day after, and did a finance app. Days go by, no news from dealer, so I called dealer. Dealer says , uh, well, uh, we can't actually get any of these cars but still has that swell deal on the 2005 for $30K.

    Gave up, went to Autobytel and Cars Direct.com, within a day had a few quotes on a 2006 from $29 to $32K.

    But then, just for the heck of it, went to CarMax. They had listed a 2006 with Nav system for $28100. The car had been titled, had just 1800 miles on it. It was out of state though,atleast 1o hour drive to get to it, but I agreed to pay CarMax $200 to have them bring it here. Week later test drove it, everything was as advertised, fell in love with it. Bought it.

    On other options, I elected not to buy either the Ford or CarMax extended warranty, found on WarrantyDirect.com a 5 year, 125,000 mile warranty (not a misprint, that is 125,000 files) , $100 deductible for $1600. Checked with local Ford dealer, they accept this warranty if warranty provider pays with credit card, which they do, and provider has a good record at BBB.

    Am also a lover of Satellite radio, checked with local dealer and their radio man and they can either put in Sirius (the 2006 FEH with Nav system is Sirius ready) or XM radio, which just came out with an adaptor for this radio and which will work through the dash radio and is about $100 cheaper to install.

    Summary: just about new 2006 with 1800 miles on it for $28,100 (plus tax). I think the only way to shop for these is let your fingers do the shopping on the internet and be very careful with traditional dealers
  • wmacwmac Posts: 3
    I looking at 389 for a doc fee..are these negotiable??
  • Has anyone looked into leasing an FEH? If so did you lease and why or why not? The FEH has made my list and so I'm just poking around for information as thoughts pop up in my head. THanks in advance!

    -cosanostra1
  • I have to say I had a wonderful experience purchasing my Escape hybrid. I did the internet search and emailed two Dealerships. One in Northern Mass the other in Southern NH. The northern mass one was not polite and was a bit pushing to get into the dealership. Best Ford in Nashua NH was very good. The salesman was very polite, and wasn't pushy. Even when the deal didn't work the first time he wasn't pushy. I finally got the deal that I wanted and we went with it. I would recommend this dealership to anyone in the area.
  • Technically you are not allowed to take the tax credit if you lease it. It must be purchased.
  • I am looking at a 4wd FEH w/ premium package. It's been on the dealer's lot for at least 6 weeks. These cars don't seem to be flying off the lots, even after the very expensive Super Bowl advertising. Is it realistic to offer invoice price? Am I just engaged in wishful thinking?

    I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,719
    "These cars don't seem to be flying off the lots, even after the very expensive Super Bowl advertising. Is it realistic to offer invoice price? Am I just engaged in wishful thinking?"

    Wouldn't hurt to try. I was shopping last week and the local dealer supposedly had 31 of them, though I only saw about a dozen when I went to the lot. I started to buy one, but went with a Freestyle instead.
  • I decided straight invoice was a bit extreme, so I offered invoice plus $200. Dealer made a mild attempt to get more. I remained firm on my price, and they accepted. Paid substantially less than the Edmunds TMV price.
  • Wow Jeff, I really appreciate all the information on buying my FEH online. I've been really interested in buying one of these and you've shown me a great way to save a couple...hundred dollars!! Once again thanks, the info was great.

    Ford Hybrid
  • testestestes Posts: 13
    This has been a great forum. I took the advice of others and made a great deal on my Mercury "little green sprout" (LGS). I started my research on Edmunds.com. Found the price for all the options I wanted and determined color. This lead to the option of requesting quotes from multiple dealers in my area.

    First email came from Leominster, MA. A simple request for a quote over the internet lead to 4 phone calls from them, 4 emails (from 2 different people) and never a price. It didn't take long to just say no.

    Second email came from the dealer in Shrewsbury, MA. This was the closest dealership to my home. However, their idea of a good price was MSRP of 34,220 (4WD, Premium, Moon Roof). Their story was, "... we cannot find a red one for you locally...blah, blah, blah... we can order it..." The sales people were very nice. Went for an informative ride with the family. Chatted us up, then the manager dropped the full price bomb. I left without a car, and began to doubt the process.

    Third email came from a dealership in Framingham, MA that had just closed as a Mercury dealership and reopened as a Nissan. They said I needed an Xterra. Didn't bother with them at all.

    Forth email came from Acton Lincoln Mercury. Not only did I get an immediate response, but I also got a very good price. The email contained a copy of the sticker and their discounted offer. No haggling, no pressure, no phone calls. After much thought (and a lengthy business trip), I finally drove the 30 min to see if they actually had the car on the lot. I was afraid they would be a "bait and switch" operation. A pleasant surprise ! Turns out they did indeed have my choice in options and color on the lot. The sales people were very knowledgeable. They were honest when they didn't know the answer to all my questions, and found out the correct answers. Not only did they honor the internet quote, but came off an additional $500 on the spot. Bottom line is: $250 over invoice and almost $1700 under the TMV price. Did not try to sell any undercoating, sealants, or other snake oils. Just the car.

    The price given on my trade in was $1000 more than the trade in value as listed on the Edmunds Used Car Appraiser and only $300 below the Private Party value. Considering the tax advantage, this was a good deal (yes, the value of the trade in was subtracted from the selling price of the LGS to determine total tax liability, therefore a better deal than a private party sale). Only a $95 processing fee on top of normal state taxes.

    Edmunds.com made my research and acquisition very easy. I recommend both Acton Lincoln Mercury and Edmunds.com. Both are professionals ! I'll keep the forums posted with my satisfaction levels in the future. :D
  • vws1vws1 Posts: 1
    Thanks to Jeff I was able to save a great deal in purchasing a new Ford Escape hybrid '06. I live in DC and found a reasonable price by getting quotes from several dealers. Some dealers offered no come-down off the MSRP and a couple offered a somewhat lower price. One in particular offered a very low price saving me a bundle (Darcars, Lanham, MD). There are also certain perks I wasn't aware of:

    MSRP for the options I chose: $30,610
    Price I got at the dealer: $28,760 (saved $1850)
    Interest on 60 month loan: 0% (saved about $1400)
    DC sales tax on hybrids: 0% (saved about $2000)
    Federal income tax credit on hybrids: $1965 (I'll get back $1965)

    This means that I saved about $7250 compared to the cost of a non-hybrid car with a 5% loan going for $30,610 with no price decrease from the dealer.

    I can't wait to see how much I save on gas!

    Thanks again Jeff.
  • newbridnewbrid Posts: 4
    Used the ford website to locate inventory, very easy indeed. Each of the three dealers in my area had exactly one loaded FEH. Two in silver, one in Red. Dealers contacted me with form "we'll get back to you" emails and thought I'd never hear from them again.
    One guy at Suddard (SE Mass.) actually contacted me! We went up there and test drove the car and were impressed. I asked if there was any room on price and he said "well, I'll see what I can do, but hybrids are rather desirable"...not encouraging!
    MSRP was 34,315
    My wife told him we'd walk if it was over $32k. The sales manager pleaded with us for $32.1 with 0% for 60mos. The financing really put us over the edge...if Ford's giving us free money for five years, I'll take it!

    My one concern is the Dealer did NOT know the Hybrid warranty! Stating several times that Hybrid components were warranteed for 10 years. It isn't really clear on the website either, but in the manual it does state 8yrs.
  • sharminsharmin Posts: 2
    Purchased from Pearson ford in san diego.
    MSRP: $29,300
    Price Paid: $27,725
    Interest rate: 1.9% for 72 months (I needed the smaller payment)
    Rebate: $500 for recent college grad (which so far, I haven't showed proof of because I forgot!)
    Final price: $27,225 plus taxes, lic, fees. which came to $29697.
    Drive off payment: $0 down (used the rebate), first payment due June 11.
    Hope this helps anyone looking to buy.
  • raysrays Posts: 1
    Purchased a 4WD FEH from a dealer in CT for a great deal. Over the past 6 years we had leased 2 Ford Explorers and bought one (the most recent) so we had some purchasing history with the dealership. Also, the past 2 Ford Explorers we had purchased using Ford's X-Plan.
    We first drove the vehicle on 2/22, they had only one on the lot. When we went back in early April, the same vehicle was still there along with another FEH. The vehicle was a different color than what we preferred and it also had the Appearance option that we were not interested in. After we talked about trying to locate another vehicle that better matched our preferences, the sales manager offered to sell us the vehicle at the X-Plan price minus the cost of the Appearance option. My guess is that since it had been on the lot for at least a couple of months and that they had an additional FEH in stock, the dealership was interested in moving this vehicle. We decided to buy it at the below X-Plan price. The timing of the deal was fabulous for us.
    Given that the price of gas has jumped over the past few weeks and our need for another economical car, we are happy with the purchase.
    Had the full fillup after a week and a half of driving. 1st fillup over 29MPG!!!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,680
    Pearson Ford is a leader in alternate vehicles & fuel also. They own the only gas station in CA that sells E85, along with several other alternatives like biodiesel.
  • sharminsharmin Posts: 2
    Yeah, they have a fancy building just off of the 15 freeway. My son actually toured it on a field trip with his classmates awhile ago. When I brought home the escape, he got really excited and told me all he knew about it. He's eleven and thinks the hybrid thing is so cool!
    I feel like I was treated pretty well there. I got a price quote with incentives, payments, etc. through email before I ever went in, which I loved, no other ford dealer did that. I hate talking on the phone or going in to the dealer, being a young blond female I feel like prey walking in the door. and they would be right!
  • cars4240cars4240 Posts: 1
    Jeff -

    Is there some way you can trick the Ford web site to give you a list of all dealers in a 50 or 100 mile radius. Right now it asks for a zip code or a city and then you get a group of dealers. I am looking for a 2006 FEH

    Thanks
    Dan
  • Purchased from Beverly Hills Ford (LA)
    MSRP:27,795 (asking price, $30,285)
    Price Paid: $26,000
    Financing: 0%/60 Months
    Had to put $300 down but they added the 72 mo/75,000 mile warranty and Vehicle Recovery Plan at no cost to me! Didn't realize it at the time of purchase but noticed on the way home that the vehicle has a 6 disk changer (was never listed on the sticker so I consider it a bonus :) )

    Final price: $29128.00 including taxes, lic, fees

    Hope this helps anyone looking to buy.
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