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High-End European Luxury Sedans

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    No personal experience as far as buying goes, but like any other brand they have some bad apples here and there, according to relatives/friends I know with Mercedes.

    In the Chicago area I've heard nothing but good things about Fletcher Jones, Orland Park, Naperville, Luarel, and Motor Werks.

    I'd ask around on the "Prices Paid" board or the Mercedes specific topics to see how the after-sale service shapes up for various Chicagoland MB dealers.

    M
  • Jay-zus, a V12 Land Rover!! If the housing boom doesn't implode, this could become the next have-to-have car. Lots of people who bought the Bentley GT are ready to move on. They found out that two other dentists in the same neighborhood also pulled out home equity and bought them.
  • dfc3dfc3 Posts: 87
    Merc1,

    Appreciate the insights. You've had some good posts throughout - I've dug into some of them. Haven't bought an MB yet - I've been Volvo brand loyal for a while. But... my 2004 S60 may soon get replaced with a 2006 C-series.

    Motor Werks is probably the 2nd or 3rd closest to me. MB of Arlington Heights is the closest (formerly Mark Motors).

    I'll follow your suggestion.

    Regards,

    dfc3
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well you might be right, and the V12 Land Rover Range Rover is or was in development, but they were having problems getting the V12 to fit.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I've been to the old Mark Motors when it was a family owned thing, but I'm not sure if it still is since the name has changed. I remember one of the salesmen telling me that the "old man" was sick and his son was going to take over and that it was time for a change. Have they moved or are they still on Northwest Highway?

    The Motor Werks also has a new store in Hoffman Estates on Higgins right after Higgins crosses over Golf Road.

    Let us know what you do.

    M
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I like the idea of a V-12 Jag
  • paldipaldi Posts: 210
    Today's news is Porsche is buying 20 percent of VW. Maybe now they'll advertise the Phaeton.

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  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Can't get my head around the W configuration of those engines. I've tried to figure them out, but can't. VW needs the capital injection for sure, but I don't think the Phaeton is ever going to work with a VW badge on it. For that money, it should be an Audi. It's like tryhing to get $80,000 for a Ford. Even a nice one. Not gonna happen. No matter how much you advertise it.
  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    Phaeton is ever going to work with a VW badge on it. For that money, it should be an Audi. It's like tryhing to get $80,000 for a Ford. Even a nice one. Not gonna happen. No matter how much you advertise it.

    I absolutely agree and have always said that to a couple friends that always drool over the Phaeton....
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Today's news is Porsche is buying 20 percent of VW. Maybe now they'll advertise the Phaeton.

    I'm not surprised. They don't wany anyone to take over VW and end their partnership with them. That would be a huge blow to Porsche considering how the Cayenne pretty much got them through the lean times before the new 911 and Boxster arrived on the scene.

    Besides Porsche and VW have been linked by blood, if not officially, for years.

    M
  • "It's like tryhing to get $80,000 for a Ford"

    Actually, they are getting around $180K for a Ford... Ford GT

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  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    Actually, they are getting around $180K for a Ford... Ford GT

    But "how many cars" X $180k are they getting?..... Weren't they only making something like 20 of them?
  • I don't know what the plans are.... but, I'm betting they sell more GTs than Phaetons..... ;)

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  • paldipaldi Posts: 210
    So the universe shifts... This is the old view of the planets. What's going on with Lotus these days?

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  • paldipaldi Posts: 210
    This might help you visualize the W configuration of two V6s joined at the crankshaft. Notice the staggared pistons on Each bank. One row of 3 is 1/2 of one V6 and the other row is 1/2 of the Other V6.

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  • anthonypanthonyp Posts: 1,857
    That a good picture...One picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks I do wonder why it is so extra expensive? Tony
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    "Actually, they are getting around $180K for a Ford... Ford GT "

    Well, yeah, in about the same numbers as the Phaeton has been sold! But that's by design in Ford's case.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Thanks paldi. VERY helpful, and I had no clue, but now it makes sense. I'll bet rod length is interesting! I can't see how this would run smoothly, but I presume it does.
  • paldipaldi Posts: 210
    To understand this thing perfectly, may I direct you to this link?

    Understanding "W" Engines
  • Thanks for the global map. Are the circles representative of turnover or annual volume?

    The study of international relations (see the recent book about the Pentagon's new mental map of the world) teaches us that that those that trade together have growing, stable relationships. Whats with these unconnected companies like Peugeot, Honda, Lotus (which is really a consultancy), and Toyota? Don't they play well with others?
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