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Honda Accord Real World MPG

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  • suydamsuydam Posts: 930
    Just took the Accord EX-L CVT on a longer highway trip -- got 38 mpg on the highway, 35 mpg for the overall trip.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    2013 lx with cvt automatic trannsmition 24.4 mpg
    i own the car for about 4 weeks now


    What kind of driving are you doing? I'm assuming short trips / city driving with such low numbers.
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    I think the both of you are looking at the wrong gauge, make sure your not looking at the temp gauge because this car will not meet these numbers not in the city but maybe on a HWY with the cruise control set at 60. No way I travel to work in my 2013 2.7 miles 18 to 20 MPG some HWY and more city, no way will I ever see 27mpg city as they state impossible and I would like for somebody to show me because I would bet my house against it
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    In 2.7 miles your car is never warmed up. Your car can use up to twice as much fuel when it is cold.

    What mpg did you get on the same trip in your previous car?
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 930
    I have a very short commute, looks like around 24 mpg for that, but on longer trips around town it gets up to 30. Add in one short highway trip of over 33 or 34 mpg, and I got 26 mpg overall. I get 24 mpg almost entirely around town in my '04 Vibe, so that doesn't seem too odd to me. But I will have a better idea as I drive it longer.
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    My first 2008 Accord 14/17 hwy 26 on the same trip winter then summer 2.7 mpg. 2010 Honda CRV AWD awesome 16 to 18 hwy topped out at 37mpg no complaints. 2013 yes it's only a month old and it went from 15 to an average of 17/21 now the more you stop of course it goes down hwy 29 /30 off the top. I have a two car heated garage and I park in a garage at work mid level. The mileage gets worse in the winter because they add more ethanol to the winter blend which is a mistake.
    I have found over the years and I have been leasing cars every 3 years is that what you get at the beginning is what you will end up with in gas mileage. That's just my opinion.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I think the both of you are looking at the wrong gauge, make sure your not looking at the temp gauge

    You don't look at a gauge or a computer for your mileage. You simply need an odometer, and to fill your tank fully. For example, drive 400 miles, fill with 12 gallons, and divide 12 into 400. You've gotten 33.33mpg.

    That's how I calculate mileage.

    this car will not meet these numbers not in the city but maybe on a HWY with the cruise control set at 60. No way I travel to work in my 2013 2.7 miles 18 to 20 MPG some HWY and more city, no way will I ever see 27mpg city as they state impossible and I would like for somebody to show me because I would bet my house against it

    As a fellow forum poster pointed out, you're not ever getting your car warmed up; short trips mean oil is thicker (cold), the car is running richer (trying to GET to the normal operating temperature), idle is higher (1500RPM vs 800RPM in my old 2006 Accord) etc.

    I recall in high school my 1996 Accord averaged 19mpg. I lived less than 2 miles from my school (obviously this was under the EPA rating for city, much less the highway). However, 8 years later, when I was commuting 100 miles a day in the car, I was averaging above the EPA highway rating (in the 31-33mpg range) at 70 mph. Short trips and stop and go are terrible for mileage. Your car does best at long, smooth intervals.
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    You missed part of my message my two car garage is heated and I work at a Hosp. that has a garage. All the things you say are more than right however that's not what there selling out there
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    Unless your garage is heated to well over 200 degrees your car is still cold.
  • ahossa1ahossa1 Posts: 51
    I have a 2013 Accord V6 and I'm averaging 19 to 22 MPG with 95% City driving in Queens County, NY
  • kcaj32kcaj32 Posts: 5
    LOL. I'm imagining this guy walking into his 200°F garage :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    edited April 2013
    You missed part of my message my two car garage is heated and I work at a Hosp. that has a garage. All the things you say are more than right however that's not what there selling out there

    Even on a 100 degree day, your car still has to "warm-up" to normal operating temperature (190-205 degrees in many modern vehicles). The interior is scorching, but the engine and its internals are still "cold" - a relative term to normal temp.

    Think of it this way... let your car run for 20 minutes (drive it, idle it, whatever). Look at the temp gauge. It probably resembles the photo below.

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    If you crank your car in a heated garage after sitting awhile, your temp gauge will still look like the photo below (i.e. - COLD)

    image

    Keep in mind, that gauge only shows coolant temperature; your coolant may be at normal operating temperature while your oil is still not fully warmed up, causing higher friction/drag on the engine, and producing lower fuel economy.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    Exactly. I used to have a Scirocco that had oil temp and water temp gauges. The water would stabilize in about 5 minutes, but it took the oil about 15 minutes to get up to temp (slightly less in summer, but more in the winter)
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    You and Dud less are comical, you are incorrect with your gauge pictures, not so. Friction drag 0-20 syn. oil with the new tight tolerances Honda made reason for the 0-20 the warm up time is within the first 5 minutes of the drive. All's I'm saying is you will not hit 27 mpg in straight city driving never with all the shift changes. So I guess the EPA takes the warm up time into there configurations when they establish there blown out facts. End of this discussion.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Maybe the end for you, but dudley and I can decide for ourselves when to end the discussion.

    I've owned Hondas (A combined 300,000 miles out of them) so trust me, I understand them. They may blow heat after 5 minutes (I found that my 06 Accord actually blew heat after only a couple of minutes on a cold day). The temp gauge may display a "warmed-up" reading, but the engine, its oil, and its components all take more than 2 miles worth of driving (10-15 mins minimum) to reach an optimum temperature.

    Even my Sonata - the gauge displays warm, but you can even see the MPG gauge decrease for the first ten mins or so, then it starts to go back up to its usual 30mpg at 75mph. I live less than 5 mins from the interstate; I'm used to watching this same "mpg meter" dance every day, summer or winter. I crank the car, the meter shows something around 30mpg. I get on the interstate, and it drops with the cruise control set on 75... 29.9... 29.8...29.7. However, after 20 mins, it's slowly creeping back up. 29.8...29.9...30...30.1...etc. It's the same thing after work.

    All cars are like that. Honda is a great company, but they aren't "magic" with their tight tolerances; engines are made better now across the board. You could select any midsize car and put 200k miles on it without blinking. I'm on my way with the two cars in my driveway. ;)

    2002 Honda Accord LX 2.3 4A
    2009 Hyundai Sonata GLS 3.3 5A

    Thegraduate
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    Barking up the wrong tree packer. The temp gauge only shows water temp. The engine is not warm until the oil is warm. The hotter the engine the more efficient it runs.

    I never compare city mpg because everybody is different, but I have run an 18 mile loop in my '13 Accord that goes through town out to the boonies and back. There are 3 stoplights (which I try to time) and several stop signs (which I have to stop for). I have gotten as high as 48 mpg for this test, which ironically is exactly what the EPA highway raw data is for my car. My test has about the same speeds, but a few more stops. I also start with a warm engine. If I do it with a cold engine I lose 3-4 mpg. I would lose much more on a shorter trip.

    EPA facts are not blown out - they have been dumbed down twice so people could hit the numbers. And the car makers do the test, the EPA just does random checks.
  • moonkatmoonkat Posts: 265
    Dude,
    excellent detailed comparo....scanguage, you must be a hypermiler!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    It warmed up to 80 today with no wind so I tried my 18 mile loop around town again. 52.5 mpg this time. I got lucky and made all 3 stop lights, so that helped a little. Remember this is not normal highway driving - just me goofing around to see what the car is capable of . Mostly 50-55 mph nice and gentle coasting whenever possible to maximize mpg. I carefully watch stoplights from way ahead and try to time them so I don't get stopped. I do have to stop at some stop signs though.

    Still do not have a full tank of highway. Did 350 miles last weekend for the bulk of a tank (about 530 total) , but my wife was driving most of it and she drives very fast, accelerates at full throttle, idles a lot, uses A/c almost all the time, and never slows to a stop gradually. With that, and the rest city, the tank was at 34.5 mpg.

    The good news is that the more my wife drives the Accord the less she is driving the minivan. Ironically she would never drive my '07, but she loves the '13.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 854
    edited May 2013
    ...my Accord V-6 6M has been augmented by a new VW JSW TDI 6M (but I've not attained the kind of numbers that you're reporting, amigo).

    Perhaps after break-in, a long Interstate drive at 65-70 on flat desert (Arizona highways) terrain will lead to the mpressive numbers that others are calculating.

    FWIW, at 65 MPH, the JSW TDI shows 1800 RPM - right in that flat torque curve section.............

    Hang in there, Senor Dudley............

    ez sends
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    Love those VW diesels. I finally test drove a Passat TDI with the 6MT 2 weeks ago, when I was in the big city. Very impressive, right at 1600 rpm at 60 mph. Had some nice punch and indicated low 50's for a gentle highway portion of my test drive.

    EZ is your TDI a stick? From what I gather the sticks do quite a bit better on the TDI's. I am sure you will be over 50 on a nice long drive like you described - a number that I could not touch without some wind or gravity aid on a real world highway trip.
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 854
    Regret tardy reply Senor D.................(trip to Europe after a long absence).........

    1. Yes, the TDI is a 6M (Sans NAV, PanoRamic SunRoof) JSW.

    2. I'm averaging 41.9 (6 fuel-ups on a green engine).

    3. More torque (and a flatter curve) than my beloved Honda Accord v-6 6M coupe.

    all the best from our left coast, ez
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    Who cares about the TDI, this is a Honda forum, sell your one day expertise on a test drive to the VW fans.
  • personatechpersonatech Posts: 100
    You know, Honda actually sells turbodiesels in Europe. Perhaps if they were to see the high regard many have for VW's TDI, they'd come to their collective senses and bring their diesel powerplants to America. I sold my '99 Beetle TDI to purchase an '08 Accord EX-L and, while the Accord is a nice car, the 90hp TDI was far more fun to drive. Torque rules, baby!
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 930
    Since this is a Honda forum, thought I would check back after owning my EX-L for 3 months now. I'm averaging 33 mpg on a mix of town and highway driving. I'm in a rural area and have to drive at least half an hour on two lane roads to get to a highway. This is several tanks now, and it seems pretty consistent, between 32 and 35 depending on how much highway driving I'm doing. I'm very happy with my 4 cyl CVT. the car is wonderful to drive, and is a huge mpg improvement over my old Nissan Maxima V6 (which also required premium fuel).
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    ezshift owns an Accord and has been contributing here for years. I asked him about a car he just bought that was not an Accord. Slightly off topic, but something that I do care about.

    It is also quite relevant to compare with other vehicles to see how well the Accord does mpg wise. The TDI sets a high bar that hopefully Honda can match someday with a diesel of their own. Maybe their new hybrid will also do the trick.
  • I purchased an '06 4 cylinder (my first 4 ever) in October with 36,000 miles on it (you read that right--senior citizens tend not to drive too far around here!). I live less than 5 miles from work, and take city streets. I haven't averaged better than 20 mpg in combined driving (every weekend I take her out for a nice, long drive of 20 miles each way or more) since I've had her, with the exception of one road trip, when I got to 28.
    I live in Florida, so I know the engine isn't affected by the cold, but I do have the ac on a lot.
    About two months ago (maybe 500 miles) I got the oil changed and used full synthetic.
    I'm a bit at a loss. I had a PoS Mazda CX-7 turbo AWD that got 15 on a bad tank, so I have to admit I was hoping to at least get in the low 20s on average.
    Any ideas?
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,784
    I'd run it on the highway a couple times a month, to let the engine rev a while.

    Your commute is the toughest on MPG. Most likely stop lights in between home and work, never really get it up to speed and stay there. Still, I'd expect at leas 23-24 on that vehicle. I had a 2003 CR-V that averaged 23 in town with careful driving.
  • izaclown1izaclown1 Posts: 116
    I bought a used 08 Accord in Dec 2012 with 64k on it. I now have 80k on it and getting 26-28 on commutes with mixed driving interstate and stop and go for 20 one way. In June, I got 32+ on a long trip through the VA mountains on I-81 and 30+ over all on a round trip from SC to PA. I will be replacing my tires this week and see what happens on the same route in a couple of week. :blush:
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,429
    Get good tires with a low rolling resistance. Can make up to 4 mpg difference. Conti Eco contact and Michelin primacy are both excellent.
  • izaclown1izaclown1 Posts: 116
    Are they quiet rolling tires? I am also looking at the Bridgestone/Firestone tires as well. Depends on ease of the pocketbook. I was hoping a new set will improve noise, handling in the rain and mpg. Thanks for the suggestion.
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